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Good luck to you, I did a similar thing some time back, also started exercising regularly (nothing heavy, just walking) and eating healthier.

It completely changed my life.

The first couple of weeks were the worst, as I had to find things to do to fill up the time I had been spending either drinking, being drunk, sleeping it off or walking around with a hangover. Amazing how much active free time I had on my hands.

Still have not managed to quit smoking though yet!

Cam

Yeah the smoking thing is truly mind-boggling. I last quit 8 years ago and have been off it since then but the first two years were absolute hell - I wanted to smoke every day for those first two years. Then the madness left me inexplicably and it has been plain sailing ever since.

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All too easy to way over do it living in Thailand.

Just had a very sober weekend for the first time in a while and already feeling better for it. I will be aiming to keep it up.

Everyone's different but the people i've known who have been to AA have ended up turning a mild problem into a personal crisis. No substitute for self discipline and finding an enjoyable alternative to drinking, in my opinion.

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It's thought that between 3% and 5% of the population are biologically incapable of handling ethyl alcohol in any shape or form. Even at the lower end, that's a lot of folk living miserable lives because their head is telling 'em to drink, and their body can't deal with it. I happen to be one of those people - I didn't work it out until AA found me in a psychiatric hospital. As has been said, it's the 1st drink that causes the trouble; because 'more' kicks in once the first goes down the neck. So, the aim, miss out on the first drink. Sounds simple, eh? But, thousands of people die with this illness because they haven't the self-honesty to admit it. Yes, it's a killer, and a major killer in the world today. In the West, up to 20% of long-term hospital inpatients have a booze problem - that's a big chunk of society.

You are in the lucky group that have the self-honesty and self-courage to admit it's got out of hand and are prepared to do something about it. As has been said, joining in with other folk who have faced up to this reality could be a life-saver. Find your nearest AA group and be prepared to listen to others experiences. That's how I did it, years ago, and still sober today. Hope you make it.

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Good luck, be strong. I am against AA because seems to sub one addiction for another. And like most religions, based on idea you are a "hopeless sinner". I would strongly suggest finding an incompatible substitute behavior. There is an alternative to AA, this one not faith based: http://www.smartrecovery.org/ You might get some help from them. BTW, I should be an alcohol abuser: everyone in my family is. Guess the joints during those formative years got me through the vulnerable stage. Remember drinking is a choice and a behavior. Not easy to stop. Different choices, different behavior.

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Good luck, be strong. I am against AA because seems to sub one addiction for another. And like most religions, based on idea you are a "hopeless sinner". I would strongly suggest finding an incompatible substitute behavior. There is an alternative to AA, this one not faith based: http://www.smartrecovery.org/ You might get some help from them. BTW, I should be an alcohol abuser: everyone in my family is. Guess the joints during those formative years got me through the vulnerable stage. Remember drinking is a choice and a behavior. Not easy to stop. Different choices, different behavior.

As an AA member I am very comfortable with alternatives/complements to AA. But I don't like your anti-AA stuff which doesn't seem to have any basis in reality. Please say more about how you reach these conclusions - personal experience or what?

The reason why I am challenging you is not for controversy's sake but because people come on here in desperation seeking help. As many say here these folk are showing courage and bravery by opening up. Please don't put them off one of the most accessible and free resources for people with drink problems unless you have solid reasons.

I also think you are being irresponsible in glibly dismissing AA as "susbtituting one addiction for another" and being based on a concept of being"a hopeless sinner". I have never heard any of these concepts in any meetings I have attended on four continents over the last ten years. If AA was based on being a "hopeless sinner" it would have crashed decades ago. Sober alcoholics as a general rule don't want sinfulness and conventional religion even though many of us, myself included, find ways to re-connect with religion as we get sober.

AA is by no means perfect - <deleted> it's a bunch of drunks - but it works, it's there, and it's free and it is worth checking out. Its longevity and truly international scope is proof of its efficaciousness.

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@emdog. Have you ever been on a AA meeting? I'm agnostic and a AA member sins 1981. We welcome ALL people and if they don't like it they can go again.

My higher power are the people in the groups. Than without those people i would be dead sins a long time.

And it's free. And if i drink water instead of spiritus i can afford a dollar in the box for the roomrent.

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I really need to do same but weak. i even think i am now allergic to alcohol

Yeah I am definitely allergic to alcohol and the general rule for normal people is you avoid things that cause an allergic reaction. Not so with alcoholics! I now understand there are a whole pile of things that just don't happen anymore in my life because I don't drink. same here it will be 18yrs for me god willing in feburay I have been to thailand 9 times I love the place you don't have to drink to have a good time,and Iam always in a meeting weather Iam in bbk or pattaya.

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Good on you Sir, the drink is a terrible thing it has killed two members of my family and I was going pretty much the same way until I moved over here and gave it up . now in my 8th year and in that time I have had no more than 10 small cans of Chang. My son has been in and out of rehab and has lost good jobs through it so I know what you will be going through if it gets to much go to the chemist I think they can give you something to make it easier for you. I know that there are AA meetings in Thailand but am also aware that a lot of people hate going to them my son being one when the Thais are having a problem with drink they tend to go to the Temple once again good luck I hope you can make it. You have got over the 1st step by coming out and admitting you have a problem so your on your way well done !!!!!!!!!

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Two years clean. No doubt it is possible, but the devil will be always here waiting. Learned to recognize it and to live with this. Good luck.

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Good advice from Monty....Just resist the FIRST drink.............If you concentrate on that alone, you are half way there. Same goes for ciggies. You only have to say no to that FIRST one.

GOOD LUCK! thumbsup.gif

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It won't be easy,but at least you realise you have a problem.Take one day at a time and learn to love your liver.I wish you all the very best.

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