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Beware helmet thieves at Big C

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I too had a stinky old helmet stolen at Big C south. What on earth are they going to do without. I see free helmets at police tables and bike shops. Why steal old, stinky helmets, I don't think they ever plan on wearing them. Like how often do you see a Thai wear a helmet? They usually keep them in the basket up front and put on quickly when they spot the police.

The reason is simple. They probably needed a helmet to get them past a police check point - then they just throw it away. A no-helmet ticket is 400 baht plus time wasted going to the cop shop and the cost of transport getting there....so even your old stinky helmet can serve a very useful purpose. Maybe someone stole their helmet so they needed another one to get them home.

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Parked my bike at BigC put the helmet on the wing mirror.

Returned, the helmet was on the ground and the bike was gone cheesy.gif

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I too had a stinky old helmet stolen at Big C south. What on earth are they going to do without. I see free helmets at police tables and bike shops. Why steal old, stinky helmets, I don't think they ever plan on wearing them. Like how often do you see a Thai wear a helmet? They usually keep them in the basket up front and put on quickly when they spot the police.

The reason is simple. They probably needed a helmet to get them past a police check point - then they just throw it away. A no-helmet ticket is 400 baht plus time wasted going to the cop shop and the cost of transport getting there....so even your old stinky helmet can serve a very useful purpose. Maybe someone stole their helmet so they needed another one to get them home.

Hey, maybe a helmet for rent shop would be good business.

Something like 50 Baht for 30 minutes biggrin.png

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Locking via the helmet strap is pretty useless.

I disagree. I've never had a helmet cut from a strap lock, but I've had a few stolen which were sitting on the mirror. There are usually more than enough helmets sitting around loose for thieves to have to bother cutting them loose and damaging them in the process.

Unfortunately you hadn't so informed the thieves who stole the OP's helmet. They then somehow managed to miss all the loose helmets around in the Big C parking lot.

On the motorcycle forum there are enough other testimonials to make it clear that locking the helmet via the strap is hardly a guarantee. Less risk, perhaps. Maybe it also partly depends on the quality of the helmet.

I suggest you spread the word to all Pattaya's helmet thieves so that they'll be sure to know. I can then confidently lock my helmet by the strap rather than carry it inside.

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Locking via the helmet strap is pretty useless.

I disagree. I've never had a helmet cut from a strap lock, but I've had a few stolen which were sitting on the mirror. There are usually more than enough helmets sitting around loose for thieves to have to bother cutting them loose and damaging them in the process.

Unfortunately you hadn't so informed the thieves who stole the OP's helmet. They then somehow managed to miss all the loose helmets around in the Big C parking lot.

On the motorcycle forum there are enough other testimonials to make it clear that locking the helmet via the strap is hardly a guarantee. Less risk, perhaps. Maybe it also partly depends on the quality of the helmet.

I suggest you spread the word to all Pattaya's helmet thieves so that they'll be sure to know. I can then confidently lock my helmet by the strap rather than carry it inside.

In your excitement over having another debate you missed the point smile.png ...you stated that the helmet lock is "pretty useless". I disagreed with that but made no mention of a guarantee. Let's make this clear for you - they are not useless, but they are no guarantee.

I'll take my chances with 1 or 2 helmets strapped under the seat. 8 years and never had one stolen - that's pretty good odds. The thieves don't need my help or suggestions - they'll go for loose ones before bothering to cut tethered ones.

I would not strap an expensive helmet under the seat. I thought that would go without saying, but here I am saying it.biggrin.png

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Chain (250 baht) through front wheel and full face helmet . No problems so far.

Where do You drill the Hole to put the Chain Through. Well , someone had to Ask. ?.biggrin.png

I'm no expert, but i reckon that rather than drilling holes in the helmet for the chain to go through, you use that big hole at the front that allows you to see. Like I said, I'm no expert, just saying....

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I too had a stinky old helmet stolen at Big C south. What on earth are they going to do without. I see free helmets at police tables and bike shops. Why steal old, stinky helmets, I don't think they ever plan on wearing them. Like how often do you see a Thai wear a helmet? They usually keep them in the basket up front and put on quickly when they spot the police.

Don't assume that the thieves are Thai. The only case I heard of here was a falang in the condo. He was punished when the wrong guy caught him.

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Locking via the helmet strap is pretty useless.

I disagree. I've never had a helmet cut from a strap lock, but I've had a few stolen which were sitting on the mirror. There are usually more than enough helmets sitting around loose for thieves to have to bother cutting them loose and damaging them in the process.

Unfortunately you hadn't so informed the thieves who stole the OP's helmet. They then somehow managed to miss all the loose helmets around in the Big C parking lot.

On the motorcycle forum there are enough other testimonials to make it clear that locking the helmet via the strap is hardly a guarantee. Less risk, perhaps. Maybe it also partly depends on the quality of the helmet.

I suggest you spread the word to all Pattaya's helmet thieves so that they'll be sure to know. I can then confidently lock my helmet by the strap rather than carry it inside.

In your excitement over having another debate you missed the point smile.png ...you stated that the helmet lock is "pretty useless". I disagreed with that but made no mention of a guarantee. Let's make this clear for you - they are not useless, but they are no guarantee.

I'll take my chances with 1 or 2 helmets strapped under the seat. 8 years and never had one stolen - that's pretty good odds. The thieves don't need my help or suggestions - they'll go for loose ones before bothering to cut tethered ones.

I would not strap an expensive helmet under the seat. I thought that would go without saying, but here I am saying it.biggrin.png

Glad you clarified that your position pretty much agrees with mine after all.

I'll continue guarding my nice helmet then. Farangs tend to own the more expensive helmets and hence a strap lock is pretty useless for protecting them against theft (or indeed any helmet, but, as you so astutely observe, why cut the strap on cheap helmet when there are so many sitting around for the taking). I can quality that if you like to "against theft if a thief wants to steal it," which I also thought would go without saying. :)

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I can quality that if you like to "against theft if a thief wants to steal it," which I also thought would go without saying. smile.png

LOL. I don't even know what you're saying here.

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Locking via the helmet strap is pretty useless.

I disagree. I've never had a helmet cut from a strap lock, but I've had a few stolen which were sitting on the mirror. There are usually more than enough helmets sitting around loose for thieves to have to bother cutting them loose and damaging them in the process.

I disagree, my helmet was fastened to the hook under the seat. That is exactly what the <deleted> thief did to my helmet. He cut the strap and scratched the side of the bike.

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I can quality that if you like to "against theft if a thief wants to steal it," which I also thought would go without saying. smile.png

LOL. I don't even know what you're saying here.

Ah, well, lemme spell it out for ya. Your point seems to be that the helmet locks are not useless because thieves don't want to steal locked helmets, preferring the low-hanging fruit. It's actually a change of subject from the inherent security of the strap/lock system itself to thief preferences.

My point is and was that they are pretty useless--not entirely useless--in those cases, obviously, where thieves don't prefer the low-hanging fruit--as enough of them don't to make a strap-locked helmet vulnerable to theft as well. That is, when they want to steal your strap-locked helmet for whatever reason, probably because it's a much nicer helmet. I think our forum members are far more concerned about such thefts in particular, not those of B100 plastic pots, which concern I was addressing. Proportionately, as you know, the farangs tend to have the better helmets.

Many newbies, such as the OP, believe helmet thieves won't cut the straps and that therefore their helmets are secure. But no.

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Locking via the helmet strap is pretty useless.

I disagree. I've never had a helmet cut from a strap lock, but I've had a few stolen which were sitting on the mirror. There are usually more than enough helmets sitting around loose for thieves to have to bother cutting them loose and damaging them in the process.

I disagree, my helmet was fastened to the hook under the seat. That is exactly what the <deleted> thief did to my helmet. He cut the strap and scratched the side of the bike.

The disagreement was that under helmet hooks are not useless. That's was it. There's no guarantee. Don't put an expensive helmet on the hook.

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I installed a box on the back of the bike. The box has a key lock. I still have my original helmets and it's waterproof.

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Proportionately, as you know, the farangs tend to have the better helmets.

I don't know this. I also don't believe it is true.

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Had 3 helmets stolen from Big C Extra when we first moved here. Learned that lesson quick. We never bought those expensive helmets again. We don't even bother locking our helmets anymore as they always know a way to get them off.

If you really wanna secure your helmet--take it inside with you. You'll notice this practice is more common these days.

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