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Immigration Laws - Are Thais Subject To Retaliation In Other countries?

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I think there is a topic running about Japan making it less difficult for Thais traveling to Japan,well guess what Many Thais are taking advantage of this and overstaying and illegally working there in the "industry".

Once upon a time Thais could travel to some scandinavian country's without visas ,and guess what happend there........

The Scandinavian Happy index rose while the suicide rate dropped?

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This another one of those threads that speaks to that sense of etitlement to move freely and unrestrictedly around Thailand that so many here on TV seem to have.

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If my wife comes to Australia on a tourist visa longer than 90 days, she has a multi-entry visa with every entry being not longer than 90 days. (sound familiar?).

This is not so for every foreigner visiting Australia, but only for those coming from a country outside a given list.

It so happens that it is a lot harder to do a border run from Australia! If this is not retaliation, I do not know what is!!!

I am British !

If I go to Australia as a tourist I get a 90 stay !

I object to this blatant Aus. discrimination against Brits !

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If my wife comes to Australia on a tourist visa longer than 90 days, she has a multi-entry visa with every entry being not longer than 90 days. (sound familiar?).

This is not so for every foreigner visiting Australia, but only for those coming from a country outside a given list.

It so happens that it is a lot harder to do a border run from Australia! If this is not retaliation, I do not know what is!!!

Hummm ... I'm not exactly sure that is indeed true.

Maybe you could reference the relevant part of the Immigration web site where that is stated.

It's my belief that all Visa duration length are issued without consideration the applicant's Country of Origin.

Obtaining said Visa when you are of some nationalities may be much more though process ... no argument there.

There is a low risk list though ... that's a fact.

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If my wife comes to Australia on a tourist visa longer than 90 days, she has a multi-entry visa with every entry being not longer than 90 days. (sound familiar?).

This is not so for every foreigner visiting Australia, but only for those coming from a country outside a given list.

It so happens that it is a lot harder to do a border run from Australia! If this is not retaliation, I do not know what is!!!

I don't mean to harp on this, but some evidence to support your statement might be needed.

"This is not so for every foreigner visiting Australia, but only for those coming from a country outside a given list."

For example, your wife could apply for a 6 month single entry Visa.

Make sure you are comparing apples with apples ... the same visa grated compared to another persons Visa.

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What is interesting is the many posts on TV with regards to Thai immigration laws and how expats are being treated "unfair" and if only farangs were able to buy land and yada yada yada.

There are also a remarkable number of posts where the author suggests that their home country should apply some sort of distinction based on nationalities and adopt an "eye for en eye" policy towards citizens of countries that enforce a more stringent immigration policy.

This is utter childish rubbish, if you ask me. I can only assume that this view is only represented by an exceedingly small number of expats, and by no means represent a generic view.

The truth is, that those who believe Thailand are treating farangs as <deleted>, have none or very little knowledge of how Thais are being treated in their own home countries in Europe, where - with very few exceptions - arbitrary bullshit sets the standard for an inhumane and dangerous view on humans and their social life, something that sometimes inhibits people to move across borders even though families and their wellbeing are at stake.

The simple truth is that unless you are extradited out of Thailand you would be able to live there if you wanted to, where as a Thai wouldn't even be able to cross the border of most European countries unless someone was prepared to sponsor the visit.

The truth is that Thailand is one of the most accessible countries there is in terms of immigration. Contrary, if a Thai child and mother had the option of reporting to the authorities every 90 days, if that meant they could stay in the country where they have lived for many years, I'm pretty confident they would gladly accept that option. But the average expat cries like a little girl because they have to do exactly this.

Most expats should be extremely happy that Thailand doesn't start treating farangs the same way Thais are being treated abroad.

Sorry! But you are wrong, Thailand is not one of the most accessible countries there is in terms of IMMIGRATION. We are not immigrants, we are guest, who can easily be deported. What is true is that it is easy for nationals of most countries to obtain entry into Thailand,by usually gaining a restricted visa at the point of entry. Very easy to get into, but not so easy to stay if the authorities want you out and while you are IN Thailand you have very little rights. In comparison the entry requirements into the UK are very strict, yet once you are in, you can enjoy many rights, such as to own land, obtain British citizenship etc, and of course it can be very difficult for the authorities to deport you.

I agree with most of what you say, but if it is so difficult to get in to the UK, then why is it so over run with Emigrants?.

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If my wife comes to Australia on a tourist visa longer than 90 days, she has a multi-entry visa with every entry being not longer than 90 days. (sound familiar?).

This is not so for every foreigner visiting Australia, but only for those coming from a country outside a given list.

It so happens that it is a lot harder to do a border run from Australia! If this is not retaliation, I do not know what is!!!

I am British !

If I go to Australia as a tourist I get a 90 stay !

I object to this blatant Aus. discrimination against Brits !

Couple of hundred years ago you could have come for life.......with hard labour!!! cheesy.gifcheesy.gif

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If my wife comes to Australia on a tourist visa longer than 90 days, she has a multi-entry visa with every entry being not longer than 90 days. (sound familiar?).

This is not so for every foreigner visiting Australia, but only for those coming from a country outside a given list.

It so happens that it is a lot harder to do a border run from Australia! If this is not retaliation, I do not know what is!!!

Hummm ... I'm not exactly sure that is indeed true.

Maybe you could reference the relevant part of the Immigration web site where that is stated.

It's my belief that all Visa duration length are issued without consideration the applicant's Country of Origin.

Obtaining said Visa when you are of some nationalities may be much more though process ... no argument there.

There is a low risk list though ... that's a fact.

An old girlfriend from the US came to Oz in 2001 on a 12 month tourist visa....and had to leave every 3 months...we went to PNG, Bali etc

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I am strongly in favour of reciprocal rights to immigration and things such as property ownership.

If thailand does not allow spouses of thais to work, then the same should apply to Thais in the UK.

Similarly, if farangs cannot buy property in thailand, then thais should not be able to buy property in Farangland.

Just imagine if thai pooh yais cannot buy a bolthole in their favourite bit of Farangland? Thai laws would change overnight.....!

Spouses of Thais can't work???

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I am strongly in favour of reciprocal rights to immigration and things such as property ownership.

But not, presumably, to the arduous visitor visa regime Western governments inflict on Thais?

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Immigration Laws - Are Thais Subject To Retaliation In Other countries?

Retaliation for what?

If you are a Westerner you can come here for study, work, retirement, marriage on one year extensions very easily, or as a tourist for months at a time! Arriving as a tourist you don't even need a visa if your stay is less than 30 days (flying in) which I guess 95% of tourist's time here is.

Why on earth does that need to be 'retaliated' against? :huh:

I see you've only just joined ThaiVisa,maybe you new to Thailand,could that be why you ask such a question.

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Reciprocity is reciprocity. You can't pick and choose the immigration rules you want reciprocated and those you want to left alone.

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I am strongly in favour of reciprocal rights to immigration and things such as property ownership.

But not, presumably, to the arduous visitor visa regime Western governments inflict on Thais?

and they should be arduous,once in they wont want to leave will they,and can you blame them.....trans is right about you clap2.gif dont you get any attention at home..?....

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