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More than 100,000 foreigners staying illegally in Thailand


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So I read this "Flash" story because it sounded like another instance of disguised humor. Quality Tourists? I am already smiling!

I was right. I started laughing when I came to them actually calling this a "scheme"! What public office in any government would call a tax bill a "scheme"? Of course the RTP is welcoming this "scheme"!

There are two completely different issues here. If a foreigner visits Thailand and overstays their visa, they know the rules. Pay up or keep hiding and claim ignorance when found. Others deliberately do this and know it. There are laws to go after them and fine them.

The second issue is that there are law abiding tourists that are the majority of foreigners visiting Thailand. Why punish them for the action of others? Let's see...probably because in 2012, there were about 23 million foreigners who visited. Uhm...23 million people versus one hundred thousand!

They know going after this small amount of absconders versus getting them from the get-go as they step of the airplane is far more profitable.

I hope the tourist industry promotes that foreigners ignore the request and threaten to cancel their trips or bring it up on talk shows in their countries. Let's see how long this "scheme" lasts.

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Nobody here said 100.000 European / American / Australian foreigners I dare say it will be mostly people from neighboring countries.

Yes...try Indians.. working on the pavements in Phuket... Buy a T-shirt mate.....clap2.gif

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Greedy little bastards!

500bath will attract quality tourists? ...your shitting me!

You want quality, then first look at your conditions! Quality my ass!

....ahhh, such stupidity gets me....

conditions said that there is no quality and you want quality, then pay for it. I don't see how the fee of 500baht can be so much of a different for the tourist who wants a good holiday. Do you notice road needs to be clean, rubbish needs to be taken away, public toilets needs to be clean and etc... who is paying for it? If you can't afford the 500 baht then stay home and don't go anywhere. dry.png

And you really think the collective 500 THB will go anywhere near to finding its way to solve these problems, nah its just a pure way of fleecing tourist for their own gain it will end up in some sweaty government officials/politician's pocket

Lastly I can afford 500THB, I don't mind spending it , I just don't want to give it away ...............................There's a big difference!

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I personally loathe when people abuse the VISA system by overstaying. It gives the government more ammo to put the screws to those who follow the rules.

Is there any hotline in place to report other foreigners who overstay?

That could help. It may make me a "rat" - but I would rather report violators than have the rules become more harsh on all of us who abide by them.

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Hey, don't feel bad. We have an estimated 11-million illegals residing in the USA right now. Less than 2% of them are here due to political asylum. The majority, 98%, are here illegally for purely economic reasons. Don't feel bad at all. And here, the illegals get free medical-care, free educations for their children and help with food, shelter and whatever else the programs have. Don't feel bad about a mere 100-K.

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What Thailand should remember is,todays backpackers are tomorrows quality tourists.So,if you discourage backpackers,when they become quality tourists,they will remember and go to another country

By the way,I dont know about Thailand being a tourist haven. In the UK we get twice as many tourists.

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"As well as boosting government funding, the money raised from the scheme will contribute to new measures that will ensure foreign visitors who enter Thailand will be unable to outstay their visa."

Don't they mean SCAM???

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This proposal for collecting fees is like the rice pledging scheme - designed with the specific aim to generate corruption but not solve the problem definitively. In fact the problem of unpaid medical fees at govt hospitals is tiny relative to the income from tourists and certainly pales in comparison with the technical bankruptcies the 30 baht healthcare scheme has plunged nearly all govt hospitals into. If the problem really needs to be addressed at all, there should be accountability and clear benefits that tourists can receive from such insurance. It is also unreasonable to charge the many tourists who already have travel and/or health insurance that is usuable in Thailand. I would think many tour operators will complain about the duplication of expenses, while the average crooked politician just think this is a good wheeze to soak a small amount from each tourist that won't be noticed and theycan't vote in Thailand, so they don't matter. It will fall down at the point that Immigration officers have to check every arrival's travel insurance in different formats. The queues will be out of control.

Re overstayers. They only have themselves to blame due to lax enforcement. Automatic blacklisting for overstaying more than 100 days without a medical certificate to prove complete inability to travel or renew visa due to coma or such like. Ten years for first offence and lifetime thereafter (in line with many Western countries) would make many people think twice. There is not much point in increasing the fine for those who can't pay or putting them in jail.

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I personally loathe when people abuse the VISA system by overstaying. It gives the government more ammo to put the screws to those who follow the rules.

Is there any hotline in place to report other foreigners who overstay?

That could help. It may make me a "rat" - but I would rather report violators than have the rules become more harsh on all of us who abide by them.

"rules" mai kow jai

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If they want rid of farang overstayers, declare an amnesty for 90 days, then after that make the daily fine unlimited. There's people here that are happy to pay the 20,000 baht on exit and overstay by years. They judge the risk of being caught against the aggro of getting visas. If the fine was unlimited, they'd leave. The sane one's would anyway.

So instead of a policy to deal with this problem, they'll punish all the honest people with a 500 baht charge.

Absurd

It is a sham, just like how they said before to levy money to pay for foreigners that stay in hospitals and don't pay their bill. So then the good guys ware paying for healthcare without entitlement to it. They are just looking for an excuse to rip the tourist even more off as already. Mind you there is already a departing tax in tickets before you had to pay that separate. So this is just an addition.

Yes - just another scam to collect more money from tourists/foreigners into the clan's coffers for re-distribution to "the boys". Another bright PTP idea. They think the whole world is as gullible as their own sheeple.

500 baht = quality tourists - and they think people believe bs like this. It's a small amount of money, but most Westerners hate the idea of being ripped off. This is just part of the descent into a tin pot dictatorship with ludicrous rules to enrich the clan. Hopefully it will be seen as that and TAT under pressure form the tour operators, hotels and other vested interests may try and stop it and bring some sanity to the asylum. If not, then at least it should make some negative comments on the holiday programs.

What next - a daily tax/charge for being here and benefiting from the dry, warm weather, nice scenery and fantastic amenities?

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I think what is omitted is that the vast majority are not Westerners but people from neihbouring Asean countries and a huge number of those will not be illegal in 2015..

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This continued talk about 'quality tourists' is really disgusting, tasteless and reeks of stupidity. Forget about the Phuket jet-ski scams. At the rate things are going, the whole country will turn into nothing but one giant scam - so big it's featured on the world map as 'Thailand'. And they want the world to take them seriously?

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if they announced right now that all overstayers would get a mandatory 1 year jail term right now and offer them a period of 1 month to leave the country without being jailed we would soon see a mass exodus - not hard to start clamping down and enforcing the law

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