sirchai Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Sawasdee khrap, good day, I'm just wondering if that' an "Isaan phenomenon", or pretty much common all over this country. Happened to me so many times. Here's the scenario: I'm at a 7 Eleven, a Big C, or somewhere else, and waiting in line to pay my stuff. Then ( mostly female citizens) somebody doesn't, see me, goes in front and pays, like I wouldn't even be there. . I'm just wondering, as I'm not really a Lilliputian. Should I buy pepper spray to avoid it, or just smile at them? -. Or both?- , , , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyumiii Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Very common. Not just in Isaan, were I reside, but I also see it in Bangkok and other places as well. Especially at 7/11 type stores. Very rude. More of the Thai "Me First" attitude. I find that if you complain or comment that you were there first, they will usually back off and get into line. If I spoke Thai a little better, I'd love to thank them for paying for my purchase and then walk off! I also find that most cashiers who notice you are put off by this will insist on completing your transaction first and make the rude one wait. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selftaopath Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Oh yea..... I agree has happened to me many times. Also while waiting to have meat items weighed at Macro I've had women put their items in front of mine on the counter top almost pushing mine backwards. I guess it is "me first" mentality, or maybe Western people "don't count." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wayned Posted October 29, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 29, 2013 I politely tap them on the shoulder and point to the back of the line making sure that the clerk sees me do it. Normally the clerk will not serve them and tell them to get in line. And I usually get a really dirty look in return. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirchai Posted October 29, 2013 Author Share Posted October 29, 2013 Next time, I'll ask them if they need glasses. "Daa Mai Henn, Bai Pujay Baan".- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted October 29, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 29, 2013 (edited) It happens, its mildly amusing, it could become annoying if its a frequent occurance. I was in 7-11 a couple weeks ago and it happened to me for the first time in while. While next in queue a Thai lad just popped in front of me and put his stuff on the counter and waited to be served !! Quite amused to see where this was going to go I tapped him on the shoulder and indicated with my thumb over my shoulder to get behind me... He got my point instantly... This was up country... It perhaps occurs more were there is a concentration of lesser educated people... I hardly ever see this in Bangkok. My thought on this: Some people are not being deliberately impolite, they are simply so self involved or vacant that they really don't pay any attention to anything or anyone around them. But as soon as you point something out it shocks them out of their vacant state, initially confused, they get the point after second or two... Its mildly amusing and generally very harmless... its easy enough to point it out in a light manner. Edited October 29, 2013 by richard_smith237 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1Str8 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 If you speak thai,you should tell them loudly so they can hear: I suppose you cut in front of me because you want to pay for all the stuff I am about to buy. If it is so, very kind of you. Go ahead and pay. If not, show some fu_king respect and get behind me. That's what I would say and said before but for some reason people don't really get in front of me so I don't need to deal with this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gsxrnz Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Learn "maa gaawn krup". It means I came before you/first. Make sure you nail the tone (middle) on the maa, or you'll be saying the dog came first, or the horse came first. Say it with a smile to the cashier - avoids any direct conflict with the interloper. It works especially well when you have 3 Russians and 2 Chinese in front of you and they actually came first. Just smile say maa gawn krup to the cashier and she'll give you a huge grin and serve you first. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 (edited) Learn "maa gaawn krup". It means I came before you/first. Make sure you nail the tone (middle) on the maa, or you'll be saying the dog came first, or the horse came first. Say it with a smile to the cashier - avoids any direct conflict with the interloper. It works especially well when you have 3 Russians and 2 Chinese in front of you and they actually came first. Just smile say maa gawn krup to the cashier and she'll give you a huge grin and serve you first. Impress them with saying : "Pom maa gown kap" Tonal pom low, maa,middle, gown middle but lower as maa, kap short. If I lie, I do this in commission, the wife instructed me....... Also very handy is "I am not waiting for the bus/songtaew". But in the Isan try to learn that in Isan. On the other hand, works very nicely in the rest of Thailand and in Laos. Edited October 29, 2013 by hansnl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Learn "maa gaawn krup". It means I came before you/first. Make sure you nail the tone (middle) on the maa, or you'll be saying the dog came first, or the horse came first. Say it with a smile to the cashier - avoids any direct conflict with the interloper. It works especially well when you have 3 Russians and 2 Chinese in front of you and they actually came first. Just smile say maa gawn krup to the cashier and she'll give you a huge grin and serve you first. Impress them with saying : "Pom maa gown kap" Tonal pom low, maa,middle, gown middle but lower as maa, kap short. If I lie, I do this in commission, the wife instructed me....... Also very handy is "I am not waiting for the bus/songtaew". But in the Isan try to learn that in Isan. On the other hand, works very nicely in the rest of Thailand and in Laos. "Taam kiew dee gwaa" always works for me .... and I rarely smile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLCrab Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I've at times used (my) Thai version of: If you pay for mine as well, it'll go much faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgs2001uk Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Each and every situation is different depending on who is jumping the queue, that being so it will detemine the way I speak. Chern krap, pom mai reep, help yourself I am in no hurry. Yaa saeng kiw (kiw pronounced like queue) dont jump the queue. Kor kaew kiw noi, please join the queue. Other times, mai mee maa ra yaat, no manners, said more as an observation rather than directly to the person. Other times, khon ban nork mai rue reuang, usually gets a smirk from others. Unless you are familiar with the language and have no problem speaking it, I would advise against trying to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLCrab Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 (edited) I at least have used the Thai language everyday in Thailand for the last 10 years and the Thai people have no problem understanding me. Edited October 29, 2013 by JLCrab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downtown Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 i find saying " i am the god of hellfire" always works a treat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatboy Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 (edited) as all 7-11 and tesco express are franchise every customer counts,when it happens to me i dump whatever i got on the counter make sure they get the message and walk out. that way the staff gets the message and the ignorant pillock as well.then the next time you go into the same shop they will remember you. Edited October 29, 2013 by meatboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetrout Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 happen to me in paryu 7 eleven. man push in front l tell him go back he said l have taxi waiting. what the hell felt sorry for him so let him go through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobTH Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 This is sort of on subject. At the division 1 immigration in Bangkok there is usually a fairly long line before opening in the morning. I usually show up early to beat the crowd but when they open the doors it is total chaos and everyone breaks from the line and runs to the entry door. I have noticed that most doing this seem to be residents from the Thai neighboring countries. I have even complained online at the immigration website but nothing seems to have ever been done. I believe one guard on the outside of the office doors would discourage this behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissables Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Learn "maa gaawn krup". It means I came before you/first. Make sure you nail the tone (middle) on the maa, or you'll be saying the dog came first, or the horse came first. Say it with a smile to the cashier - avoids any direct conflict with the interloper. It works especially well when you have 3 Russians and 2 Chinese in front of you and they actually came first. Just smile say maa gawn krup to the cashier and she'll give you a huge grin and serve you first. Impress them with saying : "Pom maa gown kap" Tonal pom low, maa,middle, gown middle but lower as maa, kap short. If I lie, I do this in commission, the wife instructed me....... Also very handy is "I am not waiting for the bus/songtaew". But in the Isan try to learn that in Isan. On the other hand, works very nicely in the rest of Thailand and in Laos. Don't want to go off topic too much, but your tones are wrong. Phom = rising Ma = mid Gawn = low Having said that, if said as a sentence they will understand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB87 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) Happens everywhere in Asia. There aren't really any queues here. The worst in Thailand is on buses in Bangkok. The woman go into a frenzy to get on first, get into a seat first, and get off first. They will squeeze through tiny gaps to get in front of people, race elderly men to get into seats first and ignore pregnant women standing. They think men should be the only ones to stand for others, regardless of the circumstances. Someone should tell them that being female is not a disability. Edited October 30, 2013 by ChrisB87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrain Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Pepper spray will work but may be illegal. Elbows at a certain height are also very effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrRed Posted October 30, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2013 Thai's shop like they drive. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted October 30, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2013 It's quite normal, they must get in front to double check your hansumness. ............. ................. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MeMock Posted October 30, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2013 as all 7-11 and tesco express are franchise every customer counts,when it happens to me i dump whatever i got on the counter make sure they get the message and walk out. that way the staff gets the message and the ignorant pillock as well.then the next time you go into the same shop they will remember you. Remember you? Yes perhaps but maybe they will only remember you as the silly bugger who wasted all that time going shopping only to dump it on the counter and walk out with nothing. They are giggling their heads off as soon as the door closes behind you. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprq Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Learn "maa gaawn krup". It means I came before you/first. Make sure you nail the tone (middle) on the maa, or you'll be saying the dog came first, or the horse came first. Say it with a smile to the cashier - avoids any direct conflict with the interloper. It works especially well when you have 3 Russians and 2 Chinese in front of you and they actually came first. Just smile say maa gawn krup to the cashier and she'll give you a huge grin and serve you first. Impress them with saying : "Pom maa gown kap" Tonal pom low, maa,middle, gown middle but lower as maa, kap short. If I lie, I do this in commission, the wife instructed me....... Also very handy is "I am not waiting for the bus/songtaew". But in the Isan try to learn that in Isan. On the other hand, works very nicely in the rest of Thailand and in Laos. Don't want to go off topic too much, but your tones are wrong. Phom = rising Ma = mid Gawn = low Having said that, if said as a sentence they will understand! I've always said "phom yuu gawn" (I was here first) and it always works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablodiablo Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 yes all the time!!! the worst are the thai german mix !!!! only jokeing!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuban Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 In the situation your describe you are probably standing too far back from the till and so people assume you are lost or asleep. Be more Thai in your mind-set and this does not happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tboxcar Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 You must be new to Asia, it's not so bad in SE Asia, but in China it's a 'pastime' cutting queue, I have literally grabbed people by the shirt and thrown them behind me, India is about the same as well. Thailand, Malaya and Indo ahhh nothing yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRaymond Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Very common everywhere. Usually the cashier just sees who cut the line but if they didn't I just stare at them. I really don't want any problems with ANY Thai people, as I could get beaten up for the most stupid reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdoom6996 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Very common. Not just in Isaan, were I reside, but I also see it in Bangkok and other places as well. Especially at 7/11 type stores. Very rude. More of the Thai "Me First" attitude. I find that if you complain or comment that you were there first, they will usually back off and get into line. If I spoke Thai a little better, I'd love to thank them for paying for my purchase and then walk off! I also find that most cashiers who notice you are put off by this will insist on completing your transaction first and make the rude one wait. It happens everywhere. Thailand is for Thais. We are here at their bequest. We should never be in their way. And never ever piss them off by saying something, you might get shot. I just try and make sure they can't get past me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samaaw Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 This happens in elevators also... just keep in mind they are probably not doing this intentionally - Thai's cannot do two things at once, so maybe when they thinking of the next meal they just cannot think of what is really happening around them, like standing in a line... they not the most intelligent species on the planet... just be patient with them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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