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More and more red shirts taking a stand against Thai amnesty bill

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More and more red shirts taking a stand against bill
PRAVIT ROJANAPHRUK
THE NATION

BANGKOK: -- OPPOSITION against the controversial blanket amnesty bill within the red-shirt movement is growing as the Pheu Thai Party refuses to budge and continues trying to push it through Parliament.

The move is being loudly opposed by activists and intellectuals in the red-shirt camp, such as Thammasat University historian Somsak Jeamteerasakul, political scientist Sirote Klampaiboon, Chulalongkorn University historian Suthachai Yimprasert and former Thammasat University rector Charnvit Kasetsiri to name a few.

Separately, Red Sunday group leader Sombat Boonngam-anong - who led a 200-strong protest against the bill on Sunday - is calling on more red-shirt supporters to show up on November 10 to make their voices heard.

In a post on Facebook, Somsak said the loss of nearly 100 lives in 2010 would be "in vain" if the blanket amnesty bill were pushed through.

Red-shirt lese majeste detainee Somyos Prueksakasemsuk, former editor of the Voice of Taksin and Red Power magazines, said both the Pheu Thai Party and Thaksin Shinawatra would be making "a foolish move", akin to "digging one's own grave", if they continued pushing for the bill.

Jakrapob Penkair, a former Thaksin aide and ex-PM's Office Minister who is living overseas to evade lese majeste charges, earlier this week posted a message on Facebook calling on the ruling party not to betray those who struggled for democracy and the future generation.

Meanwhile, Thaksin's lawyer, Robert Amsterdam, who enjoys a large following on Twitter, tweeted on Monday: "The proposed blanket amnesty provides absolutely no benefit... I am deeply saddened by Pheu Thai's position."

Red-shirt leader and MP Weng Tojirakarn said yesterday that three red-shirt MPs would abstain from voting in the second reading of the amnesty bill. He explained that this abstention was necessary for two reasons: to not confuse people about the red's stance on the issue and to not lend support to the opposition Democrat Party.

He added that he was willing to be punished for going against the Pheu Thai Party, which has been pushing for the bill to be passed. The other two expected to abstain are Deputy Commerce Minister Nattawut Saikua and MP Worachai Hema.

Meanwhile, Thaksin's son Panthongtae posted a message on Facebook saying he and his siblings understood why the red shirts were against the blanket amnesty bill.

"Sud Soi [all the way] amnesty is a moot point because we [the Shinawatra family] would be satisfied with a retrial of cases," he said, asking for an appellate review.

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-- The Nation 2013-10-31

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Retrial of Taksin cases with PT in power? I am sure they would win them! Who says there isn't political interference in the judiciary?

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Meanwhile, Thaksin's son Panthongtae posted a message on Facebook saying he and his siblings understood why the red shirts were against the blanket amnesty bill.

"Sud Soi [all the way] amnesty is a moot point because we [the Shinawatra family] would be satisfied with a retrial of cases," he said, asking for an appellate review.

So the mealy-mouthed son, Oaf, is claiming Daddy really doesn't want amnesty, but gosh darn it, Daddy didn't appeal his conviction when he had the opportunity and no one has offered him the opportunity for a new trial, so he's forced to acquiesce and accept the amnesty...as much as he really doesn't want to.

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Meanwhile, Thaksin's lawyer, Robert Amsterdam, who enjoys a large following on Twitter, tweeted on Monday: "The proposed blanket amnesty provides absolutely no benefit... I am deeply saddened by Pheu Thai's position."

Of course he is saddened, there is a chance that he is about to lose a major source of income.

The world is running out of dictators and wannabe dictators, thankfully, who else would hire him.

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So three Red Shirt MP's plan to wussy out and abstain. Can we take it then that the other nine Red Shirt MP's will totally betray their cause and vote in favor of clemency for those that allegedly killed their Red Shirt comrades?

Oh well, sucks to be Red.

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Beware of all historians, they are very dangerous, they have the ability to rewrite history

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So 3 years later, rented thugs, become "heroes" and "freedomfighters"??coffee1.gif

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There is going to be chaos if this bill is going to get pushed through. I can tell these people truly work hard to make it impossible for this country to make any progress.

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It would seem the red shirts haven't quite grasped the fall out from the subsequent show trials if there is to a selective amnesty.

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"Sud Soi [all the way] amnesty is a moot point because we [the Shinawatra family] would be satisfied with a retrial of cases," he said, asking for an appellate review.

That's plan B guys and completely in line with what Yingluck was preaching to the foreign press when she took office two years back. "We have to look again at the cases against my brother to see if he has been treated fairly".

On a slightly different note, yesterday Yingluck said that she could not tell the coalition MPs to withdraw the bill. It was not in her power to order them what to do..

Two days back Thaksin warned all coalition MPs to vote in favor of the bill or face the consequences. First we had the excuse that PT could not order the Red shirts and their leaders what to do and now we have the PM saying that she cannot order PT what to do.

The Shins are truly the masters of creating confusion. But now they seem to be tangled in their own webs.

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There is going to be chaos if this bill is going to get pushed through. I can tell these people truly work hard to make it impossible for this country to make any progress.

Hate to tell you mate... There is chaos right NOW....

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People are at last waking up and recognizing that despite all the previous denials, smoke and mirrors, wriggling, wrangling, threats, nice speaches etc etc - this is all about one thing and one thing alone. Thaksin wants to return and take power - unchecked and unbalanced power, People see the increased levels of ineptitude and corruption PTP have brought, the open lies and illegal actions. The squandering of the countries wealth and personal enrichment. The educatied people that see this don't want the convicted criminal back, regardless that he owns the government. PTP are starting to loose control of the uneducated masses now some of them are also beginning to see PTP for what they are - a clan out for themselves and their leader, at any cost and regardless of consequences.

This is really make or break time for PTP - they've been trying to find a way to get this through, and have now come to the edge.

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