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I think that when it comes to put pen to paper reality will kick in.

Many in Scotland do not like the English and their control, but there is the possibility that they hate change even more.

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Something else that people seem to be forgetting - the trade from England to Scotland, which was something like £56 billion in 2011. There would be a lot of unhappy English business owners if the Chancellor was to spit out his dummy.

The total amount of exports from Scotland to the rest of the UK are approximately twice that of Scotland's export to the rest of the world.

Any business person will tell you "don't piss off your biggest customer"

The history of the Union between Scotland and the rest of the UK over the last 50yrs has been one of concession after concession to the Scott's, for what, to be governed by parties that are far over represented by their 10% of the population. To what end.The UK as it is today.

When the remaining UK is granted it's independence by the Scott's I believe the UK will be a far more prosperous and happy country. Thank you Scotland.

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You are not talking politics, you are talking of top trumps economics, suggesting that the rUK government would put an obstacle in the way of their exports to Scotland out of spite?

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Something else that people seem to be forgetting - the trade from England to Scotland, which was something like £56 billion in 2011. There would be a lot of unhappy English business owners if the Chancellor was to spit out his dummy.

The total amount of exports from Scotland to the rest of the UK are approximately twice that of Scotland's export to the rest of the world.

Any business person will tell you "don't piss off your biggest customer"

The history of the Union between Scotland and the rest of the UK over the last 50yrs has been one of concession after concession to the Scott's, for what, to be governed by parties that are far over represented by their 10% of the population. To what end.The UK as it is today.

When the remaining UK is granted it's independence by the Scott's I believe the UK will be a far more prosperous and happy country. Thank you Scotland.

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Depends what is counted as an "export to rest of UK" You need to extract the goods exported to England in transit from your unsubstantiated figures ;)

The last 50 years history shows pillaging of Scottish resources on an immense scale.

Representation notwithstanding - UK's government is dominated by English MP's and they agreed to the format of representation.

I truly hope that both Scotland *and* the remaining UK will be happier and more prosperous as comfortable neighbours. There'll be no need for the continuous bickering we see too much of. :)

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I think that when it comes to put pen to paper reality will kick in.

Many in Scotland do not like the English and their control, but there is the possibility that they hate change even more.

:D You really do not know what Scots like ;)

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I see we have had more posts alleging lies from the No side; but have as yet had no comments from the pro independence lobby here on the proven lies about the finances of an independent Scotland which came to light via leaked documents from the SNP!

YES exactly THE LEAKED DOCUMENTS FROM THE SNP More than one way how to smoke a fox out...Seemed to have worked.A bit too deep for some people.

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There has never been a Uk NHS.

Two acts of parliament created the NHS in England(and Wales) and the NHS in Scotland. NI's assembly created their health service

. So there were 3 NHS bodies from the start and from 1969 when the NHS in Wales was created 4 NHS's

. So no UK NHS ever

In terms of treatment, if you have a very rare illness that requires specific specialised treatment that is only available in hospital in England then the same system that applies now will apply after independence.

That is NHS Scotland. will pay for the health care provided and you won't pay anything.

This only applies to treatment for rare condition where treatment is not available in Scotland.

The EHIC card wil operate as it does now.

There are many people with mental disorders who need specialist care in secure units only located in England and their parent health board picks up the bill for their care and treatment, etc.

In fact a similar practise happens between health boards within Scotland. For example nhs Lothian may buy care from NHS Borders if they cannot provide within their own health board. Simple, and no need for naysayers to make yet another mountain out of a molehill again.

Another question of course is why is there not the specialist units in Scotland in a better together UK?

Is this just your opinion, or have you copied and pasted it?

If the latter; a link please; not only because the forum rules require it, but also so we can assess the source; e.g. is it the UK government saying this or is it just more wishful thinking by the Yes campaign?

If the former; then I again ask the question left unanswered; why should residents of an independent Scotland be treated any differently when it comes to NHS treatment in the UK to residents of any other country which is independent of the UK?

Even non resident British citizens are only entitled to the most basic A&E care, the same as other non residents!

As previously stated i worked in the NHS and still have family members working in both NHS ENGLAND and NHS SCOTLAND so there you have it clear enough.No link needed.

NHS Scotland patients PAY LIKE Any One ELSE WHEN THEY GET TREATMENT IN ENGLAND..OR do you want them to be treated differently and NOT PAY.

If your desire is for Scottish patients to have to pay a higher price than other nationalities,then take it up with your representatives on the South of England..I am sure more than a few would welcome that.

Now a spokesperson for The great Ormond already made that clear...So go argue with them if you want an impartial non bias answer if you believe, and you do that everything or the majority of things i write and other supporters of independence are gullible and bias..

That was also confirmed by a specialist in the NHS Scotland go ask him.... links where provided for both on the video containing the subject matter

Can you also do us a big big favor by posting your believes on the numerous forums in Scotland....You certainly would turn a lot of undecided voters onto the yes side by your tone and neutral attitude ...

Its not the yes side who has their backs to the wall

At the moment Scottish residents, being also UK residents, do not pay for NHS treatment in another part of the UK. Except, of course, through their taxes just like the rest of us.

If you bothered to read the CAB link I provided earlier you would have seen that the same is not true of non UK residents; even if they are British citizens.

I have never said that residents of an independent Scotland should pay a higher price than other non UK residents.

What I am saying is that they should be treated in exactly the same way as other non UK residents.

Surely you are aware that even EU citizens with an EHIC card cannot come to the UK specifically for medical treatment on the NHS. The card only covers emergency treatment whilst they are here; as it does for UK citizens travelling in other EU states.

Why should residents of an independent Scotland be treated any differently to all other non UK residents?

It is obvious that this is yet another area where the Scottish independence lobby want to retain all the benefits of being part of the UK, whilst shedding all the responsibilities!

There is no benefit to Scotland at all,,as the NHS Scotland is independent and regarding the NHS will continue to be so, what ever the vote.

Easy enough to understand.

Scotland and its residents are not treated in anyway differently with regards to the NHS..If patients have to use a specialists department in England,,it is paid for,,not buy UK taxes,,but Scotland NHS.

The No campaign wanted to further that distortion of facts in their video and where found out very quickly,,

But possibly you are subscribing to the fact that of course we are better together, but if not ,the most vulnerable people that is A and e , we will leave them dying where they fall,,such compassionate bed fellows we have .After all we do have a template for that happening today already..

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Seems we are getting back to the oil thing again...........

Sorry, a flaw of mine, but when I see deliberate distortions of the truth that are designed to damage the cause of independence , I feel compelled to retort.

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Yet you seem happy to accept distortions of the truth which are designed to support the cause of independence.

Of which there have been many examples here.

Double standards?

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Seems we are getting back to the oil thing again...........

Sorry, a flaw of mine, but when I see deliberate distortions of the truth that are designed to damage the cause of independence , I feel compelled to retort.

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Yet you seem happy to accept distortions of the truth which are designed to support the cause of independence.

Of which there have been many examples here.

Double standards?

I got ten quid too much in my wage packet one week. I never bothered mentioning it, as it would have cost more than ten quid in time and effort to sort it out... Anyway, the next week, my wage packet was ten quid short.

"Oi! This wage packet's ten quid short!"

"You never mentioned it last week, when it was ten quid over, did you?"

"Aye, well, anyone can be forgiven for making a mistake, but when it happens every week..."

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Seems we are getting back to the oil thing again...........

Sorry, a flaw of mine, but when I see deliberate distortions of the truth that are designed to damage the cause of independence , I feel compelled to retort.

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Yet you seem happy to accept distortions of the truth which are designed to support the cause of independence.

Of which there have been many examples here.

Double standards?

I got ten quid too much in my wage packet one week. I never bothered mentioning it, as it would have cost more than ten quid in time and effort to sort it out... Anyway, the next week, my wage packet was ten quid short.

"Oi! This wage packet's ten quid short!"

"You never mentioned it last week, when it was ten quid over, did you?"

"Aye, well, anyone can be forgiven for making a mistake, but when it happens every week..."

That is relevant how?

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Seems we are getting back to the oil thing again...........

Sorry, a flaw of mine, but when I see deliberate distortions of the truth that are designed to damage the cause of independence , I feel compelled to retort.

Sent from my SM-N900 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Yet you seem happy to accept distortions of the truth which are designed to support the cause of independence.

Of which there have been many examples here.

Double standards?

i do believe that the people who actually live,or have lived in Scotland have a better grasp of the Truth as you say it than yourself,,who at best is a passing tourist.

.A Scottish Unionist is a very different breed to an English ,Welsh or Irish Unionist for that matter,,though they are all in bed together as we speak.

After all England will be a much better together region without Scotland,,why are you so frightened,,,,you can always use your better together to create inequality in the North of the region named England,,,oops you are already doing that...and i thought it was a UK,,oh well you can always use your better together to create inequality in Wales...though maybe that is a part of England i am not sure....Truth from the papers..the newspapers or the politicians and you want an intelligent debate?....And i thought Scotland had modeled its Utopian idea on sussex,, must be true then,,,no food banks down there then,,,no welfare benefits cheats oh no,,, no tax evasion corporate leaders,,,well steady on old chap no need to be flippant,,we are better together at somethings are we,,,,,,smokescreen action

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