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RuamRudy,

The history of the NHS is, indeed, complicated and there are good demographic reasons for major specialist hospitals being located where they are.

But you seem to be saying that there are no such anywhere in Scotland!

This is just one area which voters have to consider; leave the UK and you leave the UK NHS.

Not a lie; a real probability unless the government of an independent Scotland can persuade the UK government to make Scottish residents exempt from the regulations which govern all other non UK residents; including non resident British citizens.

In other words, another area where the Yes campaign want to be independent yet retain all the rights and benefits of being part of the UK.

Scottish voters need to know the downside of leaving the UK as well as the benefits.

That you, wigantojapan and others don't want the voters to know this downside and so label all mention of it as 'Project Fear, scaremongering and bullying' only shows how worried you are that the Scottish people as a whole know their future is better within the UK and will vote accordingly.

Wigantojapan; Scottish residents do not have the same status as non UK residents, i.e. limited access to NHS care in the rest of the UK; they have the same rights as all other UK residents do in all parts of the UK.

You really should read that CAB link.

Then, once you know the actual rules, maybe, instead of yet again resorting to pathetic insults, you can answer the question.

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All the talk about health care is another red-herring. It is totally obvious that if Scotland goes independent then a Scot will have to pay for their health-care if they travel to England in the same way as a person from France or RoI. Travel insurance will usually suffice in the same way as it does now.

I can imagine an open border existing - in the same way as it does between UK and RoI. The only consideration there is if Scotland joins the Schengen group and England does not, but that's some time away -- there'll be a new set of politicians and a new EU boss by then ;)

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RuamRudy,

The history of the NHS is, indeed, complicated and there are good demographic reasons for major specialist hospitals being located where they are.

But you seem to be saying that there are no such anywhere in Scotland!

This is just one area which voters have to consider; leave the UK and you leave the UK NHS.

Not a lie; a real probability unless the government of an independent Scotland can persuade the UK government to make Scottish residents exempt from the regulations which govern all other non UK residents; including non resident British citizens.

In other words, another area where the Yes campaign want to be independent yet retain all the rights and benefits of being part of the UK.

Scottish voters need to know the downside of leaving the UK as well as the benefits.

That you, wigantojapan and others don't want the voters to know this downside and so label all mention of it as 'Project Fear, scaremongering and bullying' only shows how worried you are that the Scottish people as a whole know their future is better within the UK and will vote accordingly.

Wigantojapan; Scottish residents do not have the same status as non UK residents, i.e. limited access to NHS care in the rest of the UK; they have the same rights as all other UK residents do in all parts of the UK.

You really should read that CAB link.

Then, once you know the actual rules, maybe, instead of yet again resorting to pathetic insults, you can answer the question.

There are agreements in place at this moment regarding the different independent NHS services

Again there is no UK NHS no matter if all UK citizens have access to them

Scottish residents ONLY have access to non Scottish NHS services through a pre negotiated between the health bodies

in this way it is the same as being a non Uk resident...The Scot is paid for by the NHS SCOTLAND,,,...You want to beat on that non factual attack on the weak.

the great ormond spokesperson as earlier stated also confirmed what i have said,,so you might read some rule but you certainly do not understand it

Now possibly with the way the NHS ENGLAND is going negotiations could take place in a new independent Scotland..if England wants to screw more money out of Scotland in the name of fairness ,,that will get negotiated if need be,,but in no way is it like you keep on beating on about Scotland wanting to take something that doesn't belong .or they are entitled to do so..Again you have only looked up a google link and have no intimate knowledge of the subject matter

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All the talk about health care is another red-herring. It is totally obvious that if Scotland goes independent then a Scot will have to pay for their health-care if they travel to England in the same way as a person from France or RoI. Travel insurance will usually suffice in the same way as it does now.

They already do pay.See the wee slip you get when you go for any form pf service,,that wee slip goes back for NHS Scotland to pay

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All the talk about health care is another red-herring. It is totally obvious that if Scotland goes independent then a Scot will have to pay for their health-care if they travel to England in the same way as a person from France or RoI. Travel insurance will usually suffice in the same way as it does now.

They already do pay.See the wee slip you get when you go for any form pf service,,that wee slip goes back for NHS Scotland to pay

I seem to remember a similar system existed when I lived in Spain........

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All the talk about health care is another red-herring. It is totally obvious that if Scotland goes independent then a Scot will have to pay for their health-care if they travel to England in the same way as a person from France or RoI. Travel insurance will usually suffice in the same way as it does now.

I can imagine an open border existing - in the same way as it does between UK and RoI. The only consideration there is if Scotland joins the Schengen group and England does not, but that's some time away -- there'll be a new set of politicians and a new EU boss by then ;)

I believe you are correct, now can you please explain these facts to the Lancashire laddie, he seems to be having a problem grasping these points.

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All the talk about health care is another red-herring. It is totally obvious that if Scotland goes independent then a Scot will have to pay for their health-care if they travel to England in the same way as a person from France or RoI. Travel insurance will usually suffice in the same way as it does now.

I can imagine an open border existing - in the same way as it does between UK and RoI. The only consideration there is if Scotland joins the Schengen group and England does not, but that's some time away -- there'll be a new set of politicians and a new EU boss by then wink.png

I believe you are correct, now can you please explain these facts to the Lancashire laddie, he seems to be having a problem grasping these points.

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They already do pay.See the wee slip you get when you go for any form of service,,that wee slip goes back for NHS Scotland to pay.You seem to be having major problems grasping where i am from even though i have gave clear indications....A previous video will give you a clue ..aye the half way hoose for people in the know laddie...See if your going to be anti anything,,know your enemy and the environment they work live and play in,,,

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I think that when it comes to put pen to paper reality will kick in.

Many in Scotland do not like the English and their control, but there is the possibility that they hate change even more.

And considering how many people in England are of Scottisg descent, it all seems rather pointless.

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http://www.arcofprosperity.org/darling-i-am-not-an-ethnic-nationalist/"

Alistair Darling should feel ashamed of himself. There are plenty of neo-fascist movements appearing all over Europe at moment that he could spend his time fighting. Ethnic nationalism is a horrible ideology, and applying that term to an anti-xenophobic party that welcomes foreigners like me with open arms is insulting, demeaning, harmful and evil. We are not amused."

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http://www.arcofprosperity.org/darling-i-am-not-an-ethnic-nationalist/"

Alistair Darling should feel ashamed of himself. There are plenty of neo-fascist movements appearing all over Europe at moment that he could spend his time fighting. Ethnic nationalism is a horrible ideology, and applying that term to an anti-xenophobic party that welcomes foreigners like me with open arms is insulting, demeaning, harmful and evil. We are not amused."

You're making me very confused, Lancashire Lad, at one time you lead us to believe that you where English, then you categorically stated you were born and bred in Scotland. Now you are saying you are a foreigner in Scotland. What is it about you, the same as when at one time you were just outside Edinburgh and then impossible, a few hours later on the Thai/Burma boarder.

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http://www.arcofprosperity.org/darling-i-am-not-an-ethnic-nationalist/"

Alistair Darling should feel ashamed of himself. There are plenty of neo-fascist movements appearing all over Europe at moment that he could spend his time fighting. Ethnic nationalism is a horrible ideology, and applying that term to an anti-xenophobic party that welcomes foreigners like me with open arms is insulting, demeaning, harmful and evil. We are not amused."

You're making me very confused, Lancashire Lad, at one time you lead us to believe that you where English, then you categorically stated you were born and bred in Scotland. Now you are saying you are a foreigner in Scotland. What is it about you, the same as when at one time you were just outside Edinburgh and then impossible, a few hours later on the Thai/Burma boarder.

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you are making yourself confused by your constant referral to Lancashire lad..This you picked up from 7 by 7.I never ever said that i was English..,so if anyone led you to believe i was English it was the man from sussex.

.Where have i said i am a foreigner in Scotland,,so yes you are confused..

.Craiglockhart is NOT OUTSIDE Edinburgh so again you are confused on that point and i was not on the Thai Border 2 days after not a few hours so again you are confused on that also..though as you know you can easily travel from Uk to Thailand in 16 hours

The above link was from a foreigner who has been welcomed and made his life in Scotland,,something that is in short supply further South of Hadrian wall.

i take it then you support the comment by Darling

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