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Where is this myth that the ‘average’ Thai earns 10,000 a month coming from?

A typical 22 year old secretary in Bangkok earns double that, as do cops and junior bank clerks. Take a tiny step into semi-skilled or middle management and you can easily quadruple the figure. Start talking professional or skilled workers, and you’re normally looking at salaries over 100K a month. Even the average hooker earns 6 figures.

These are everyday middle class folk, not hi-so types or people with 'na' in their name. The fact is, the average salary is Thailand is a tick over 80,000 baht a month. And that's individual income, not combined household income. So in many cases you can double or triple that amount.

What's more, the average local doesn't necessarily have to budget for things like visas, trips home, emergency health insurance or English speaking schools for their kids. These farang extras really add up.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s entirely possible to live a great life in Thailand on very little money. You don't need money to be happy. But I don't think people should be under the illusion that you’ll be living the same as the ‘average’ Thai if you're doing it on anything like 10K a month. What you're really talking about is living like a very poor Thai, only with higher expenses.

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The fact is, the average salary is Thailand is a tick over 80,000 baht a month. And that's individual income, not combined household income. So in many cases you can double or triple that amount.

The fact is: You're wrong.

Unless you are talking about expats.

Out of an average uni a local would look to start at around 15-18k, this does rise rapidly though as they progress, annual bonuses are often close to half the year's salary!

All those without uni quals and working the menial jobs (millions and millions of them) probably average around 10k (between 6k-15k depending). Their life is nothing but a never ending struggle.

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The fact is, the average salary is Thailand is a tick over 80,000 baht a month. And that's individual income, not combined household income. So in many cases you can double or triple that amount.

The fact is: You're wrong.

Unless you are talking about expats.

Out of an average uni a local would look to start at around 15-18k, this does rise rapidly though as they progress, annual bonuses are often close to half the year's salary!

All those without uni quals and working the menial jobs (millions and millions of them) probably average around 10k (between 6k-15k depending).

Aware there is loads of people on the minimum wage, potentially millions earning less than 10K a month. And for all those millions, there are also millions earning significantly more. As you mentioned, kids straight out of uni are pulling 18K a month with that figure going up rapidly.

The 80K average is obviously inflated by super wealthy. But the (full time) median salary is still a lot higher than you might expect.

I've run large departments at MNCs in Thailand, hiring and firing, so I knew exactly what everyone was earning. These were Thais, not expats. A good portion of them were on 100K plus, the rest ranged down to high 20s. Cleaners and drivers were subcontracted, but no doubt they were on less.

Thai salaries:

http://www.adecco.co.th/Uploads/Knowledge-Center-Thought-Leadership/Thailand-Salary-Guide/Adecco-Thailand-Salary-Guide-2012.pdf

http://www.salaryexplorer.com/salary-survey.php?loc=215&loctype=1

http://www.payscale.com/research/TH/Country=Thailand/Salary

http://www.robertwalters.com.au/wwwmedialibrary/files/Salary%20Survey%202013/Thailand.pdf

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Folks, comparing Thai income levels and expat income levels is a bit like comparing apples and oranges...

For this reason:

Monthly expenditures for Asians (for example, Thais here or Japanese in Japan) is a whole different paradigm.

Some years ago when I was living in Japan, my income was the same as my Japanese father-in-law. But his

family lived a very nice life while I was dirt poor and often borrowed money from him.

I was amazed at how he could maintain such a high standard of living on the same income as mine. That

was a big learning experience for me. I learned that Americans (me) waste a huge portion of their incomes.

- My entertainment was drinking in bars, my father-in-law drank just as much but always at home, which

meant his cost was about 90% less than mine.

- I often ate out in restaurants, he always ate at home. Again a huge savings.

- I drove a car 3 km to work, he road a bicycle to work (or walked in snowy weather). Big savings.

- He had a nice Minolta SLR camera, I couldn't afford one.

- He had a nice late model car, I had a rusty old $150 car that often quit and needed push start.

There is a huge gap between the spending patterns of Asians and Westerners. On the same income, Asians

will usually have a much higher standard of living than a Westerner.

This is my observation from 27 years in Asia -- for whatever it's worth, maybe very little...sick.gif

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Brad if you are answering the few posts in front of yours then they are not comparing Thai incomes with expat incomes.....but Bangkok Thai wages with the national Thai wages.

My wife's best friend is working in a market shop in Pratunam, belonging to family.

She works morning, afternoon and then when the market closes she has to sort out materials etc in the warehouse in the evenings.

Many, many hours and that is every day of the week, and for that she gets 20,000baht per month. Admittedly she doesn't have to pay rent or food out of that because she lives with the family but it is considered a very good wage and she is a university graduate etc.too.

Jasun speaks of a myth but I think it is he who either living in a dream world or just travels in different circles to the real world.

Obviously there are those that earn higher amounts as in any country but to claim that this is nationwide.........

Thai school teachers with degrees earn less than 20,000, office workers earn less than 15,000 to 20,000.

My wife used to work in a lawyers office and just earnt 12,000 and when she was a tour guide in the fossil museum she earnt 9,000. Maybe similar workers in Bangkok do earn a bit more but I doubt if workers in all the other smaller cities in Thailand do.

Just remembered my wife's brother and his wife both work in a factory in Bangkok and earn about 50,000 between them.

He talks about the average person earning 80,000 a month but I bet workers in Burger King or in any of the hundreds of petrol stations only dream about earning a quarter of that. Dream on mate.

HL

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When loking at your budget:

200 baht a month for medical insurence!!! Nothing more for the medical or medicin for 4 people !!!

And nothing for dental care. Are your plan that none in the family will never ever visit a Dentist?

And nothing for repair or buying stuff for your house!!

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When loking at your budget:

200 baht a month for medical insurence!!! Nothing more for the medical or medicin for 4 people !!!

And nothing for dental care. Are your plan that none in the family will never ever visit a Dentist?

And nothing for repair or buying stuff for your house!!

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Again if you read OPs posts from the beginning he is not broke. He has cash availale and will use it if there is a sudden emergency, like a dentist.

So try to use common sense and you'll see it's possible to live on this budget .

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When loking at your budget:

200 baht a month for medical insurence!!! Nothing more for the medical or medicin for 4 people !!!

And nothing for dental care. Are your plan that none in the family will never ever visit a Dentist?

And nothing for repair or buying stuff for your house!!

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Again if you read OPs posts from the beginning he is not broke. He has cash availale and will use it if there is a sudden emergency, like a dentist.

So try to use common sense and you'll see it's possible to live on this budget .

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I'm not contradicting you balo but would it not be better to use the term "survive" on this budget??? Because it certainly would not be living well.

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When loking at your budget:

200 baht a month for medical insurence!!! Nothing more for the medical or medicin for 4 people !!!

And nothing for dental care. Are your plan that none in the family will never ever visit a Dentist?

And nothing for repair or buying stuff for your house!!

Sent from my GT-I9152 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Again if you read OPs posts from the beginning he is not broke. He has cash availale and will use it if there is a sudden emergency, like a dentist.

So try to use common sense and you'll see it's possible to live on this budget .

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Where did I say he was broke? And a normal family go to the dentist and doctor even when it's not a sudden emergency. That's the reason people include those things in a budget.

Yes he can survive on that budget if no serious emergency happen. But is that the life you would recommend for a family with children

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When loking at your budget:

200 baht a month for medical insurence!!! Nothing more for the medical or medicin for 4 people !!!

And nothing for dental care. Are your plan that none in the family will never ever visit a Dentist?

And nothing for repair or buying stuff for your house!!

Sent from my GT-I9152 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Again if you read OPs posts from the beginning he is not broke. He has cash availale and will use it if there is a sudden emergency, like a dentist.

So try to use common sense and you'll see it's possible to live on this budget .

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Where did I say he was broke? And a normal family go to the dentist and doctor even when it's not a sudden emergency. That's the reason people include those things in a budget.

Yes he can survive on that budget if no serious emergency happen. But is that the life you would recommend for a family with children

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<deleted> he has 12 to 15 thousand pounds as backup. He owns a house and one back in the UK.

What do you want? That is plenty for any emergency. Wake up an smell the roses and stop being so negative.

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When loking at your budget:

200 baht a month for medical insurence!!! Nothing more for the medical or medicin for 4 people !!!

And nothing for dental care. Are your plan that none in the family will never ever visit a Dentist?

And nothing for repair or buying stuff for your house!!

Sent from my GT-I9152 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Again if you read OPs posts from the beginning he is not broke. He has cash availale and will use it if there is a sudden emergency, like a dentist.

So try to use common sense and you'll see it's possible to live on this budget .

Sent from my SM-P601 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Where did I say he was broke? And a normal family go to the dentist and doctor even when it's not a sudden emergency. That's the reason people include those things in a budget.

Yes he can survive on that budget if no serious emergency happen. But is that the life you would recommend for a family with children

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<deleted> he has 12 to 15 thousand pounds as backup. He owns a house and one back in the UK.

Well said,sir!

There are enough farangs already in Isaan surviving on a lot less. They lurk in feral villages and pretend to live a healthy life by eating all sorts of crap whilst under the illusion that they are happy.

the roses and stop being so negative.

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22 year old surelycan get a job to help

Can you please read the other posts before you post as you may find out that she is working, she will pay 1k a month until she finishes paying off for her motorbike which will be about 7 months after we are there then she will raise this to 2k per month, I am not going to ask her to pay more as I want here to enjoy herself which the rest of her money

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