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I have previously had a work permit and I never had a problem. (It was with an agency). Now my new school is asking for my TOEIC test score (which i never had to do for my previous permit). They told me that the MOE asked them for my score because I was Irish. I obviously disputed this because we are classed native speakers and after awhile they agreed to call the MOE again in my presence. The MOE refused to back down saying they wanted a score. I even informed them about the teaching councils website, where it states we (irish) do not need the test. They said they are not the teaching council and that they needed a score from me.

I am working for a private bilingual school. Would that have anything to do with the difference in procedure or is somebody just giving me wrong information???

Appreciate all the help I can get fellow teachers.

Cheers

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It seems that the TCT wasn't keen on this one and it's changed.

***ยกเว้น ประเทศที่ใช้ภาษาอังกฤษเป็นภาษาแม่ ได้แก่ สหราชอาณาจักรบริเตนใหญ่และไอร์แลนด์เหนือ ไอร์แลนด์ สหรัฐอเมริกา เครือรัฐออสเตรเลีย นิวซีแลนด์ และแคนาดา)
Except those who come from The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland,Ireland, The United States of America, Commonwealth of Australia, New Zealand and Canada).

Now you can show them their own rules..........

http://www.eflthailand.com/the-teachers-council-of-thailand-has-added-ireland-as-native-speaking-country-of-english.html

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A year or two ago, Irish people were classed as non native speakers for a period of about 6 months and were required to take a TOEIC test. The mistake was then realized and rectified. The Irish are once again classed as native English speakers and don't need to take the TOEIC test. Whoever told you to take it is working from old info.

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Thanks Sirchai but I have already shown my school these TCT rules and they relayed this to the MOE in my presence but the MOE said they are not the TCT. They said under their rules they need my TOEIC. Obviously trying to argue this this through a third party while they were on the phone wasn't easy.

My school is a Private bilingual school. would this make a difference??????

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Thanks Sirchai but I have already shown my school these TCT rules and they relayed this to the MOE in my presence but the MOE said they are not the TCT. They said under their rules they need my TOEIC. Obviously trying to argue this this through a third party while they were on the phone wasn't easy.

My school is a Private bilingual school. would this make a difference??????

Can I suggest that they know you are correct, however for them to now admit their mistake, would be a loss of face.

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Thats what I have been thinking Phospherescent but as the school have rang several times and the MOE have got "annoyed at them", they won't ring again.

I dont know where to take this next?????

Obviously I could just do the test but it costs a few pound and if its a case where some Member of MOE staff doesn't know their proper procedures, well, it would just do my head in to me made to it.

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Thanks Sirchai but I have already shown my school these TCT rules and they relayed this to the MOE in my presence but the MOE said they are not the TCT. They said under their rules they need my TOEIC. Obviously trying to argue this this through a third party while they were on the phone wasn't easy.

My school is a Private bilingual school. would this make a difference??????

The TCT grants teaching licences. Why do they need to contact the MOE?

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Thanks Sirchai but I have already shown my school these TCT rules and they relayed this to the MOE in my presence but the MOE said they are not the TCT. They said under their rules they need my TOEIC. Obviously trying to argue this this through a third party while they were on the phone wasn't easy.

My school is a Private bilingual school. would this make a difference??????

Can I suggest that they know you are correct, however for them to now admit their mistake, would be a loss of face.

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Yes, you certainly can suggest that and you could probably be correct.

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Thanks Sirchai but I have already shown my school these TCT rules and they relayed this to the MOE in my presence but the MOE said they are not the TCT. They said under their rules they need my TOEIC. Obviously trying to argue this this through a third party while they were on the phone wasn't easy.

My school is a Private bilingual school. would this make a difference??????

The TCT grants teaching licences. Why do they need to contact the MOE?

It is when I was applying for my NON B. I gave all my papers to the lady in the school, she sent them in to get all that sorted but she came back to me a week or so later explaining that the MOE needed my TOEIC score.

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Thanks Sirchai but I have already shown my school these TCT rules and they relayed this to the MOE in my presence but the MOE said they are not the TCT. They said under their rules they need my TOEIC. Obviously trying to argue this this through a third party while they were on the phone wasn't easy.

My school is a Private bilingual school. would this make a difference??????

The TCT grants teaching licences. Why do they need to contact the MOE?

It is when I was applying for my NON B. I gave all my papers to the lady in the school, she sent them in to get all that sorted but she came back to me a week or so later explaining that the MOE needed my TOEIC score.

The only paper you need from the MOE is from the local educational office area. The TOEIC test is to satisfy Khurusapha (TCT) so I'm a bit confused as to why they are asking for it at all.

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Thanks Sirchai but I have already shown my school these TCT rules and they relayed this to the MOE in my presence but the MOE said they are not the TCT. They said under their rules they need my TOEIC. Obviously trying to argue this this through a third party while they were on the phone wasn't easy.

My school is a Private bilingual school. would this make a difference??????

The TCT grants teaching licences. Why do they need to contact the MOE?

It is when I was applying for my NON B. I gave all my papers to the lady in the school, she sent them in to get all that sorted but she came back to me a week or so later explaining that the MOE needed my TOEIC score.

Best would be to go there in person. It seems that a guy from the TCT misunderstood the rule for Irish citizen. And I'm certain that they'd called the TCT, not the MoE, as the TCT is the only institution who issues your provisional license.

When you walk in, let them find their own mistake, nobody's losing face, don't get upset and I'm sure you'll have your provisional TL on the same day.

P.S. The TCT would be the institution asking you for your TOEIC score, which you obviously don't need.

Good luck!-wai2.gif

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Right, I know this might be a bit confusing to you, because it certainly is to me. I can only tell you what the school is telling me and what the MOE said on the phone.

The problem is I cant even get my Non B visa. They are saying I need my TOEIC first. So maybe I should contact the MOE myself and discuss it with them on tuesday.

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Thanks Sirchai but I have already shown my school these TCT rules and they relayed this to the MOE in my presence but the MOE said they are not the TCT. They said under their rules they need my TOEIC. Obviously trying to argue this this through a third party while they were on the phone wasn't easy.

My school is a Private bilingual school. would this make a difference??????

How did the MoE say that they were not the TCT?

All schools, or teachers have to apply for their TL at the TCT, or Khurusapa in Thai.

I’d assume that you’ll have to be certified at a private school as well. -wai2.gif

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