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Dead boy's family in Phuket 'mob' against Russians

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A 16 Y.O. wandering about at 1.A.M. No Crash Hat.If the Lad was mine id feel some resposibility.Perhaps im just Old Fashioned.

You putting the blame on the boy , not on the driver , who no doubt fled the scene of accident because she was well over the d&d limit . I have other words to describe you "old-fashioned" is not amongst them .

God rest the poor boys soul . And commiserations to his next of kin.

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I feel sad for the family. No matter how negligent they were as parents they have still lost their love.

The irony in this article is painful. I hope that this serves as a lesson to the Thai populace that this HAS to stop. Whether it be a Thai driver or foreign driver they should all be held responsible....unless the victim isn't wearing a helmet.

The whole thing is farcical when you look at it that way and you have to understand why the police have thrown their hands in the air over this one.

It is a sad situation all the way around, but also, it's indeed a case of the shoe now being on the other foot.

How often in the past have we seen where Thai bus drivers involved in fatal crashes run away in the aftermath, or the Red Bull kid doing a runner to escape prosecution for killing the police motorcycle officer, or various government officials fleeing abroad, including the biggest one, to escape prosecution. And the list goes on and on.

It seems more than a bit disingenuous for the Thais to complain about this kind of thing (doing a runner), when they've made it almost a national artform themselves.

If the Russian car driver was drunk driving and killed the kid in the process, she's to blame in part and deserves to be prosecuted. But the 16-year-old riding around late at night without a helmet certainly bears some responsibility.

As for the police and the witness(es), that's an interesting question. I'm not sure the police would have the legal authority to confiscate the passports of foreigners not accused of any crime, in this case, the witness(es).

Heck, oftentimes, the courts here don't even seem to confiscate the passports of the actual accused criminals, whether they be Thais or foreigners. So I'm not sure what the police could have done different in this case regarding the witness(es).

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The child was legal. The Russian killed a child. The husband also fled the scene. How the hell do people try to make this the child/ parents fault! Get a grip on reality folks. These Russians fled the country. Sad for the psrents/ family. Shame on the Russian friends that gave the culprits "Cover".

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I feel for the boy's parents but what the Russians did is the norm in Thailand. Lets face facts the kid was not even old enough to have a drivers license not to mention not wearing a helmet. We all see how these idiots on motorcycle break every rule of the road. The accident would have been treated as a lottery win for the parents and police.

The Russian did the right thing IMHO they would have received no justice and would have been automatically at fault for being foreigners. The police would have ignored the fact that the rider was under aged and not wearing a helmet.

The Russians would have been in jail until their life saving were in the hands of greedy police and the kid's parents.

I agree, if you don't have a license, you are automatically in the wrong. Perhaps if he was wearing a helmet, he would still be alive.

As for the Russians doing a runner, this is the norm for Thais that are involved in a serious accident. I've lost count how many times

that I have read a Thai van driver, bus driver, or truck driver has fled the scene of an accident. However, if they did this in Aust, they would

be in a whole heap of trouble.

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What percent of Thais leave an accident ? I would bet it is 90% or higher.

Set the example and people will follow !
In America you would go to jail if you leave, your fault or not.

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A 16 Y.O. wandering about at 1.A.M. No Crash Hat.If the Lad was mine id feel some resposibility.Perhaps im just Old Fashioned.RIP.

Wrong wrong Pop, the kid did have a crash helmet on. Be more careful before you type crap in future.

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I feel for the boy's parents but what the Russians did is the norm in Thailand. Lets face facts the kid was not even old enough to have a drivers license not to mention not wearing a helmet. We all see how these idiots on motorcycle break every rule of the road. The accident would have been treated as a lottery win for the parents and police.

The Russian did the right thing IMHO they would have received no justice and would have been automatically at fault for being foreigners. The police would have ignored the fact that the rider was under aged and not wearing a helmet.

The Russians would have been in jail until their life saving were in the hands of greedy police and the kid's parents.

I agree, if you don't have a license, you are automatically in the wrong. Perhaps if he was wearing a helmet, he would still be alive.

As for the Russians doing a runner, this is the norm for Thais that are involved in a serious accident. I've lost count how many times

that I have read a Thai van driver, bus driver, or truck driver has fled the scene of an accident. However, if they did this in Aust, they would

be in a whole heap of trouble.

Still that just means the Thais should be prosecuted too.. not that the Russians should be excused.. fleeing the scene is repulsive and totally irresponsible. Stuff like that should mean extra punishment. I really can't excuse fleeing the scene no matter who flees.

But not wearing a helmet is bad too and a helmet might have saved his life so some blame to the boy too. There is a reason helmets are mandatory. I feel not wearing a helmet is doing the same as driving dangerously.

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It doesn't take long for Thai's to label a foreigner now Russians are labelled as <removed>

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A 16 Y.O. wandering about at 1.A.M. No Crash Hat.If the Lad was mine id feel some resposibility.Perhaps im just Old Fashioned.RIP.

What a pathetic comment, wondering about at 1am, so that was ok to kill him?????? he went for some mossie repellent probably for a family member.

I could think of few other names for you besides Ace of Pop.

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Wow there are some pretty nasty people on TV, they seem to forget a 16 yr old lad has died, they seem to hate everything about Thailand- why not go back to live where ever they came from and see what living in Europe is like these days.

It is highly likely if the Russians had been to a party they were drunk - knowing their love of alcohol.

Have some feeling for the family- they have lost their son.

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Seems to be more about them missing the money they believe they are entitled to. Sad that they don't say much about the life of their son.

Thais will always run away if they can, which seems to be acceptable.

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Typical! Blame someone else. The family should first realise that their son was riding a bike at odd hours of the night without a crash helmet. That in itself is irresponsible and should go down to poor guidance from the parents. Societies acceptance of a lack of helmet does not help either. Yes, the Russians should have made a police report (it did not state if they did), and stayed back to closed up the loose ends of this accident. That is what it was an accident.

Either way, even if they had stayed back the end result would still be the same. A senseless death, why? because of clear disregard for safety.

This is more of the family not having the opportunity to milk money off these Russians for the loss of their child. IMHO.

So, let me get it straight. According to the article, the woman did a U-turn and hit a teenager on a bike. The husband was following her in another car, they saw the kid was dead/dying and they decided to flee the scene.

In Western countries, that right there would be enough to get her in jail for fleeing the scene and for not providing assistance to the kid.

In addition, the article doesn't say anything about the kid being at fault, besides him failing to wear a helmet. And, yet, you turn that into "an opportunity for the family to milk money out of those poor Russians???" That is widely uncalled for. They're the ones who now have to live without their child while those Russians just took the first flight home.

Edit: The article actually says he was driving in the same direction than the woman. Since she was making a U-turn, the kid had the priority over her (he was driving straight on), at least based on what has been reported.

Your edit has blown your argument out of the window. Actually NO you are wrong. It indicates the driver of the bike was unable to stop in time when the vehicle in front was slowing down to make a legitimate turn. In any road accident case i have experienced the vehicle behind running into the vehicle in front is at fault because if you kept the safe distance and driving at the speed limit, in all circumstances you will have time to stop. Unless of course it is thick fog!!! maybe you can try that one but it will sound just as stupid as the first post you made.

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Who is to blame here? Probably enough to go around for everyone involved. The boy for not wearing a helmet, apparently in the fast lane where he shouldn't have been. No helmet, and perhaps no headlight, which is typical here as well. The Russians? Obviously. They hit the boy, then drove off. But how many times every day do we see the same thing with Thai? The RTP? Overall, yes, for never enforcing driving rules here in LOS other than checkpoints to line their pockets. Boys parents? Of course, for not teaching the boy to ride with proper safety equipment.

On the moral side, I fault the Russians for not stopping to try and help the boy, yet, on the other hand, if they were the least bit familiar with the Thai "justice system", they also knew they would be milked for every stand that could be drained from them, simply because they were farang involved in an accident, regardless of whether they were at fault or not. That's the "Thai way".

The loss of a young life is unfortunate, regardless of the circumstances, but until Thai law is changed and brought up to date with 21st Century standards, this type of thing will continue to happen.

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