webfact Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Londoners say Western media unfairly demonizes Russia over Ukraine - pollLONDON: -- A recent independent opinion poll in the streets of London found no shortage of people who said they are not buying the West’s characterization of Russia's alleged interventions in Ukraine under the helm of President Vladimir Putin, RIA reports."I feel that he’s been demonized and I feel that perhaps it’s slightly unfair. I would like to see some media coverage that is less biased," one of the respondents said.The survey called "View on the Streets" was conducted by the educational volunteer organization WORLDbytes to see if the public had swallowed the portrayal by Western politicians and media outlets of Russia as the major cause of problems in the region.The report said the responses were fascinating, suggesting many Londoners question bias by the media and remain critical of Western meddling in the situation in Ukraine."Any Western intervention in another part of the world is almost always disastrous. And this one, I think, has a uniquely unpleasant flavor … A democratically elected government was deposed by protests, whereas that government should have been thrown out by election, of course," one Londoner said.Full story: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_04_16/Londoners-say-Western-media-unfairly-demonizes-Russia-over-Ukraine-poll-0137/-- Voice of Russia 2014-04-16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drand11 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Anyone have a legit reaon why Russia was justified to schematically enter/ control and overtake a foreign land? Is this not what they did? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Asiantravel Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 There is always a danger of diplomatic niceties or overt praise coming back to bite you, especially when the positive things you said publicly were about someone who then, er, launches an invasion. George W. Bush: 'I looked the man in the eye. I was able to get a sense of his soul.' http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/03/04/western-leaders-praise-putin_n_4896991.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mosha Posted April 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2014 Perhaps they should have asked English people. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ulysses G. Posted April 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2014 There is always a danger of diplomatic niceties or overt praise coming back to bite you, especially when the positive things you said publicly were about someone who then, er, launches an invasion. George W. Bush: 'I looked the man in the eye. I was able to get a sense of his soul.' http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/03/04/western-leaders-praise-putin_n_4896991.html Putin might be a very different guy when dealing with another leader that he respects and is a little frightened of. That is obviously not the case now. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costas2008 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Perhaps they should have asked English people. How would they recognize them? Do they wear a badge? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post 3NUMBAS Posted April 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2014 the interfering western nations have been poking their noses into other countries business for generations . Israel ,Egypt ,Afghanistan ,Libya, and little good it did . 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Perhaps they should have asked English people. How would they recognize them? Do they wear a badge? What I mean't was London is a cosmopolitan city. Very easy to target foreigners of your target audience. They could have say, targeted Slav looking people, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asiantravel Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 " Londoners say Western media unfairly demonizes Russia ".........some French also feel the same way too Marine Le Pen, opposes 'EU demonization of Russia'http://www.sott.net/article/277380-Marine-Le-Pen-French-far-right-leader-opposes-EU-demonization-of-Russia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aTomsLife Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I don't dismiss the assertion that since WWII's end, the West, led by the USA, has often meddled in foreign countries with disastrous results. That said, I do believe Putin is a legitimate threat. By the time this plays out, this might prove the West cried wolf one too many times and now, as a true international situation emerges, people are unwilling to believe it. I hope I'm wrong, though. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/vladimir-putin-wants-to-regain-finland-for-russia-adviser-says-9224273.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WoopyDoo Posted April 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2014 Anyone have a legit reaon why Russia was justified to schematically enter/ control and overtake a foreign land? Is this not what they did? Because their are millions of ethnic Russians live there, and they are in dire danger from this neo-nazi group who have over=thrown the Ukraine government and stolen power, mainly composed of dubious murderous figures who have vowed to basically ethnically cleanse all Russian blood from Ukraine. Is that enough reason for you?.... It is for me. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post schondie Posted April 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2014 The western media has been portraying Putin in bad light for years after he seized some the assets of the dual nationality oligarch gangsters who made billions during Yeltin's "rule". I think people are getting fed up with the hypocrisy of these western politicians. Who are they to lecture on meddling in foreign countries? Considering western countries were involved in the overthrow of the legitimate Ukrainian government it takes some chutzpah for them to then castigate the Russians for getting involved in the Ukraine. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RtotheC Posted April 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2014 Anyone have a legit reaon why Russia was justified to schematically enter/ control and overtake a foreign land? Is this not what they did? Because the majority of people in Crimea are Russian and democratically voted to leave Ukraine and become part of Russia. My turn for a question: Why is it anyone's concern what Russia does in its spare time? Why is it ok for America to try and enter/control and overtake Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria? Bin Laden is dead, that's the whole reason we went to Afghanistan. Iraq didn't even have the WMD's Bush said they had. No one even seems to know why Libya was attacked (don't give me the whole "he was a bad man rhetoric," there's still a lot of genocide going on in Burma and Africa). Obama wanted Syria, but Russia of all the different countries in the world, just happened to be the one that brokered a peace deal. So why is not ok for Russia to allow a part of a country that wants to join them to join them? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonShadow Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I don't dismiss the assertion that since WWII's end, the West, led by the USA, has often meddled in foreign countries with disastrous results. That said, I do believe Putin is a legitimate threat. By the time this plays out, this might prove the West cried wolf one too many times and now, as a true international situation emerges, people are unwilling to believe it. I hope I'm wrong, though. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/vladimir-putin-wants-to-regain-finland-for-russia-adviser-says-9224273.html Ah how short memories are......100 years on from Russia supporting the 'Slavic' peoples in the Balkans against the Austians.....result the First World War; ,fast forward to 1938, some guy named Adolf Hitler said he needed to 'protect' the German speaking people in the Sudetenland (Czechoslovakia), the west did nothing; next, after the Sudetenland he annexed the whole of Czechosolvakia.....one year later he invaded Poland.....The start of the Second World War.....any of this sound eerily familiar???? if you do not learn from history you are condemned to repeat it..... Oh and by the way the article is from The Russian News agency so it must be really unbiased 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejcb Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 What is a Londoner ? I was born in Brixton 60 years ago and now have a gaff in Mile End. my parents, grandparents and their grandparents were mostly born in London. How many like me ! Not many . So who are these Londoners that are being asked these questions ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 This is blatant propaganda. Who is RIA you ask? Quote: "RIA NOVOSTI The Russian News & Information Agency RIA Novosti RIA Novosti is Russia's leading news agency in terms of multimedia technologies, website audience reach and quoting by the Russian media. Integrated multimedia newsroom, vast network covering over 45 countries of the world and the Russian regions allow RIA Novosti to deliver news and information in all possible formats, including video, animated infographics and cartoons to professional clients and the end user in 14 languages. RIA Novosti has proven expertise in creating tailored interactive news & information services for mobile operators and content providers. Day after day RIA Novosti combines media expertise with innovative technologies to effectively reach its audience of millions. The agency is partially government-subsidized, but maintains full editorial independence." Full Link: http://en.ria.ru/docs/about/novosti.html . This has nothing to do with news and please note the juicy bit "partially government-subsidized, but maintains full editorial independence". Talk (in this case written declarations) are cheap. I'll call this entire charade "bullpucky". F1 F1 . . . whereas the UK only has the Beeb to spread the official line, and the US has tells it like it really is with the likes of CNN and Fox News. Time for a reality check, methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blazes Posted April 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2014 There is always a danger of diplomatic niceties or overt praise coming back to bite you, especially when the positive things you said publicly were about someone who then, er, launches an invasion. George W. Bush: 'I looked the man in the eye. I was able to get a sense of his soul.' http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/03/04/western-leaders-praise-putin_n_4896991.html Putin might be a very different guy when dealing with another leader that he respects and is a little frightened of. That is obviously not the case now. Ah, Dubya looking into the windows of the soul!! But maybe he and Putin are not soul-mates, cos, whereas Georgie inflicted misery and death on hundreds of thousands of people (and, like Tony Bliar, needs to be tried as a war criminal), Putin has, so far, achieved his limited aims in Ukraine with little or no loss of life. Imagine Dubya trying to play chess with Putin.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryfrompattaya Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Nobody can stop Russia. Who England France and German never If they are waiting for Obama just wait he will never do and America will never fight away Remember who got the peace prize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank James Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I looked into his eye and saw a soulless stone cold killer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank James Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Nobody can stop Russia. Who England France and German never If they are waiting for Obama just wait he will never do and America will never fight away Remember who got the peace prize. American people do their best work when they get disrespected and under-estimated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ulic Posted April 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2014 The Wests complaining about Russia's involvement in Ukraine is a little bit of the pot calling the kettle black. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hard124get Posted April 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2014 Anyone have a legit reaon why Russia was justified to schematically enter/ control and overtake a foreign land? Is this not what they did? No, its not. The elected government was illegally thrown out by a western-backed mob, even though they were offered early elections. The mob declared the Russian language to be illegal. What do you expect Russian speaking people to do ? There was therefore no constitution to adhere to. The west split up Yugoslavia, and further split Bosnia, it is backing the independence of Kosovo. Hypocrisy 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hard124get Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Perhaps they should have asked English people. How would they recognize them? Do they wear a badge? What I mean't was London is a cosmopolitan city. Very easy to target foreigners of your target audience. They could have say, targeted Slav looking people, Speaking as a Londoner, they looked and spoke like a cross section of Londoners. I am proud they have not all fallen for the western media bias. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hard124get Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 US Secretary of State James Baker promised not to expand NATO "as much as a thumb's width further to the East" (than Germany) Lies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sotsira Posted April 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) Anyone have a legit reaon why Russia was justified to schematically enter/ control and overtake a foreign land? Is this not what they did? There are many reasons, but the main reason is because the US government decided to interfere, and schematically backed the overthrow of Ukraine's democratically elected government. Followed by them hand selecting their own cronies of neo fascists to replace. Edited April 17, 2014 by sotsira 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Donk Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I do not believe a word of this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickirs Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Perhaps they should have asked English people. How would they recognize them? Do they wear a badge? What I mean't was London is a cosmopolitan city. Very easy to target foreigners of your target audience. They could have say, targeted Slav looking people, If people were surveyed in Hyde Park Speaker's Corner, you'll find support or protest for every kind of political issue on earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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