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4K TV - worth it yet?

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Has anyone bought a 4k TV yet? The prices seem to have come down a lot recently - a 65in for 125,000.

Are there any 4k programmes available to warrant buying the TV or does the TV upscale HD.

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There's no readily available 4K content in TH, outside of a few stuttering Youtube videos.. But, an upgraded bluray specification is expected sometime in the near future that will support 4K UHD content, and all these sets have decent upscalers that will still provide a slightly sharper picture than the same content on a 1080P panel.

130K Baht used to be what a top-end 65" plasma costed only a year ago, so the same money for a 4K set seems like OK value.. The questions you need to ask yourself are:

1) Will I actually *see* the difference? you need to be sitting pretty close to a 65" 1080P screen to see pixels. 80"++ 4K screens still make the most sense for normal sitting distances (3.0-3.5M), IMHO

2) Will you have a bout of buyer's remorse when you see the prices halve again in a year, or when you see >= 80" sets fall to the price you just paid, or in 2-3 years when OLED screens with plasma-beating contrast come out @ reasonable prices, or when you look back and recall that a comparable PQ 1080P set would have cost you less then half the price?

If you answer Yes and No respectively, go for it :)

Just one thing if you do decide to go 4K - make sure it supports HDMI 2.0 (this requirement excludes some LG models)

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IMHO thanks, i think only one manufacturer supports HDMI 2.0 at the moment, Samsung and Sony don't which are the best sets around. Maybe best to wait and see if prices fall further.

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IMHO thanks, i think only one manufacturer supports HDMI 2.0 at the moment, Samsung and Sony don't which are the best sets around. Maybe best to wait and see if prices fall further.

Sony announced a few months ago that their 4K sets are all upgradeable to HDMI 2.0, and their Thai website also says that - not sure about the Samsung sets though. The next challenge after HDMI 2.0 is going to be getting a set that supports HDCP 2.2 - which it appears is going to be the protection system required for commercial 4K content.

If you can wait until the end of the year when it's expected 4K bluray is released and all the related standards have settled down, it'd probably be a lot safer to buy something then.

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Singulus technologies has been busy getting the new blu ray discs which are 100 gig which are triple layer.production of the new machines will be under the brand name Blueline 111.So maybe you will have to get a new player too?

100 gig movies will be great for watching on a 4k panel. I will wait till the software comes out which wont be this year.

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Was in John Lewis last weekend and liked the look of the curved 4K sets but can't justify an outlay of £2k plus for a format that hardly exists. It was nice to dream for five minutes though.

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Singulus technologies has been busy getting the new blu ray discs which are 100 gig which are triple layer.production of the new machines will be under the brand name Blueline 111.So maybe you will have to get a new player too?

100 gig movies will be great for watching on a 4k panel. I will wait till the software comes out which wont be this year.

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Bluray 4K will definitely need a new player, yes. What I've been reading suggests that all the stakeholders are aiming for H2 this year so they can cash in on the xmas shopping season. All the big names are involved - there won't be any need to go to no-name brands.

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Was in John Lewis last weekend and liked the look of the curved 4K sets but can't justify an outlay of £2k plus for a format that hardly exists. It was nice to dream for five minutes though.

That are great arent they mate .. On my shopping list when they get all the software sorted out .

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Singulus technologies has been busy getting the new blu ray discs which are 100 gig which are triple layer.production of the new machines will be under the brand name Blueline 111.So maybe you will have to get a new player too?

100 gig movies will be great for watching on a 4k panel. I will wait till the software comes out which wont be this year.

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Bluray 4K will definitely need a new player, yes. What I've been reading suggests that all the stakeholders are aiming for H2 this year so they can cash in on the xmas shopping season. All the big names are involved - there won't be any need to go to no-name brands.

Just wait for a couple of years , not long when you get to my age .. Then we will know what is going on. But it is going to be exciting . Have you seen the song throw projector

http://www.sony.net/Products/4k-ultra-short-throw/

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I saw the PR when it was released a couple of months ago yes, but in person, no. I haven't seen any pricing, but I expect being Sony (who know how to charge big $ for PJ's) it'll probably be not too far off flat panels of a similar size soon.

What I actually need is the opposite though (an ultra long throw PJ) - my next PJ needs a throw of at least 14M to work as I've planned, and needs at least 6,000lm, but also has to be 4K, and the standards there need to have been set in stone first too. So it's waiting game.

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Wow 14 metres... I have a Mitsubishi 3d PJ, cost a arm and a leg 15 months ago. The quality is great . But as I said and you too , it is a waiting game.The next theatre room will be 7 x6 as the one now is 7 x4 .That will be in the new house later this year

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The real 'wait & see' factor in my mind is content. There is precious little 4K content anywhere in the world yet. Netflix just announced a few 4K options in the US, but even with their compression its challenging downloads, so dont wait for that here in Thailand anytime in the next decade or so. So, you'll need to wait for upgraded bluray by which time price of the screen will have dropped. My advice, hold onto your money for the time being, wait to see some real world content out their before you decide, it could still end up going the way of 3D....and that seemed such a great idea at the time!

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definitely wait.

there is a new format war and 4K is it. 4K content from Sony can only be viewed on Sony TV's. 4K content from Samsung can only be viewed on Samsung TV's.

http://www.cnet.com/news/why-are-sony-and-samsung-keeping-4k-content-to-themselves/

maybe Netflix 4K steaming can help us all if you have a fat enough internet pipe

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In the eu some test channels on satellites on 10 degree east

Thailand nothing yet!

For Brazil world cup prices go

Down

Cheapest Modell samsung beginn

1200€

And the 4k streaming sony box

Was only avalible in us

But now on sometime areived in Europe soon

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maybe Netflix 4K steaming can help us all if you have a fat enough internet pipe

My internet 'pipe' is about as good as consumer grade gets in TH (20mbps, which does that domestic, and still manages >13mbps to USA), and it still can't play a 1440P stream without chopping it up:

Also bearing in mind that YouTube have local servers, and the last I looked they had 27gbps to the domestic backbone. Netflix don't have any direct connections to TH, or indeed most countries, so they're out of the running.

If they don't make a physical media format for it (disc, flash, punch cards, whatever), 4K will sit on the shelf for a long time to come.

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