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How are the women in Vietnam?

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I've never been to Vietnam . If I was offered a job there I would go and have a look see first , before accepting a job and commiting to leave Thailand .

Such handsome , charming girl puller as you would surely be able to try out some Vietnamese girls . As in Thailand money will be all important .

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One of the biggest differences there, is there is a very powerful taboo against western men being with a local woman. Very unlike Thailand. So, you will find the woman will not even be willing to be seen in public with you. If she does, loads of scorn will be heaped on both of you. Vietnamese are largely a very cold, distant, closed minded people. They do not carry the level of fulfillment and happiness that the Thai people manage to manifest on a daily basis. Sometimes, it feels like each soul there is carrying the burden of the last two centuries on their shoulders. Not a happy lot by any stretch of the imagination. And I have been there several times, in both the north and the south, though I will say the south is infinitely more pleasant than the north, where an oppressive pall hangs in the air constantly.

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they are the same as thai women you write about. been there....done them

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Must be a poor job offer,if availablity of women is a major criteria,pathetic.

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In Hanoi try the large shopping malls or a night-time festival. I found the Viet girls very open and friendly - almost innocent. Bars, as such, don't exist and the locals ignore you if you sit alone in a cafe that sells beer. Also, I didn't find the girls that attractive, same as in Chiang Mai - pretty ordinary bunch, really.

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I'm sure some of the TV "Players" will be on with their tales of the thousands of Hi-So non-hooker Viet women they've biffed for free.....

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I'm 49 years old white man, but look younger, and I don't have a problem finding women

They probably find your self-effacing modesty attractive.

Everyday I see loads of "49 year old attractive men" in Pattaya who have no problem finding women.

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One of the biggest differences there, is there is a very powerful taboo against western men being with a local woman. Very unlike Thailand. So, you will find the woman will not even be willing to be seen in public with you. If she does, loads of scorn will be heaped on both of you. Vietnamese are largely a very cold, distant, closed minded people. They do not carry the level of fulfillment and happiness that the Thai people manage to manifest on a daily basis. Sometimes, it feels like each soul there is carrying the burden of the last two centuries on their shoulders. Not a happy lot by any stretch of the imagination. And I have been there several times, in both the north and the south, though I will say the south is infinitely more pleasant than the north, where an oppressive pall hangs in the air constantly.

Absolute rubbish.For "They do not carry the level of fulfillment and happiness that the Thai people" read "They do not carry the level of ignorance and self importance that the Thai people" There is no taboo about being seen with a western man,I know plenty of westerners who are with Vietnamese ladies,and there is no such feeling evident.I've visited Vietnam many times over the last 8 years,am married to a Vietnamese lady,and have lived in Vietnam for over 4 years,at no time have I ever experienced any such behaviour.Nor has she.I also lived in Thailand for 4 years,and I've seen plenty of anti western sentiment there.To say that Vietnamese are cold,distant and closed minded is simply ridiculous,and shows you know nothing about the country or its people.They are far more aware of the outside world,many because they have close relatives living in other countries (largely due to the outflow of refugees during and after the American war)The regulations concerning free movement and free enterprise in Vietnam have been hugely reduced after the events of 1993,and although Vietnam (or to give it it's correct name-The Socialist Republic of Viet Nam)is of course a Communist country,this in practice means that although there is a centralised economy,there is also a large amount of small scale free enterprise.The country is generally speaking in far better shape than Thailand,the infrastructure is better,and improving rapidly.The political situation is far more stable than Thailand,and in my opinion in a few years Vietnam will overtake Thailand in terms of both tourism and economic performance

I agree with most of what you say but to say the infrastructure is better is just crazy. The infrastructure here (I'm in Saigon right now) is still terrible. For example last weekend I drove from Krabi to Phuket (150 km) in less than 2 hours. Saigon to Mui Ne (230 km) takes 4 hours or more. As bad as things are in Thailand right now Vietnam matches them in corruption and will never achieve it's economic potential as long as the communists are in power.

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I live in Bangkok, I have been here for less than 2 years, I travel about 70% of the time within Australasia for my job. So you may conclude Bangkok is primarily my bedroom community. I love the food, the airport and the friendliness of the Thai people. I have several important clients in both Hanoi and Saigon and I travel there minimally 6 times a year. I can only speak from my experience. Here are my observations and opinions which will be different to those of others.

1) Generally, I personally have learned not to trust Thai women. It is sad how often their mothers use them to fetch money for them. They might not be working as bone fide prostitutes, but in many ways their families prostitute them by encouraging them to marry or date a farang with money. The Thai people in general are egocentric and do not easily fall in love in the true sense as much as they look for material security, and this has been verified by social psychologists who have researched Thai culture. Read Suntaree Komin, Ph.D. on the internet. She is a Senior Fulbright Scholar and a member of the Thai Royal Educational Patronage Society. She is Internationally respected and the leading expert on the psychology of the Thai people. Dr. Komin is Thai.

2) In, general, Vietnamese women are more traditional and conservative. Again in general, they are less likely to quickly get involved sexually with their boyfriends. They value marriage much more than the Thai women and ad in general are more loyal. They are not as greedy as Thai women. Also they are not as egocentric.

3) If you are looking for recreational sex, Thailand is the place to be. If you are looking for a wife and starting a family, I personally recommend you look in Vietnam. Now my statements are only a comparison between Thailand and Vietnam. Furthermore it is based on my personal observation and experiences.

Thank you for your intelligent response. These TV guys who want to write about horizontal <deleted> are obnoxious bottom feeders. I have spent some time in Hanoi, and find the northern Vietnamese women to be quite lovely. There are bar girls everywhere, but the everyday gals that have good jobs, like at the front desk of hotels, seem to be more career orientated than their Thai counterpart, from my observation as a seasoned traveler. They will say things like they need to get their degree and get a good job, then maybe they will marry when they are thirty — to their Vietnamese boyfriend who has similar ambitions. It just seems to me that the Thai's are more complacent with their lot in life. My young Thai teacher graduated from college with an honors degree in English. I paid her 3000 baht a month for 20 hours. I suggested that if she got four students to pay 3000 baht she would make 12,000 baht for 80 hours work a month. Her poor farm family made her get a "job," where she worked 60 hours a week for 9000 baht a month. That seems to be Thai logic, loyalty to their "culture" even if it perpetuates poverty. I don't think the Vietnamese women I've met would ever think this way - they're way more logical - would work 8 hours a day teaching English for 24,000 baht. I think if I wasn't so invested in the Thai language, I would move to Nha Trang.

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"I think if I wasn't so invested in the Thai language, I would move to Nha Trang".

You'd need to be heavily invested in Russian to live there now

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One of the biggest differences there, is there is a very powerful taboo against western men being with a local woman. Very unlike Thailand. So, you will find the woman will not even be willing to be seen in public with you. If she does, loads of scorn will be heaped on both of you. Vietnamese are largely a very cold, distant, closed minded people. They do not carry the level of fulfillment and happiness that the Thai people manage to manifest on a daily basis. Sometimes, it feels like each soul there is carrying the burden of the last two centuries on their shoulders. Not a happy lot by any stretch of the imagination. And I have been there several times, in both the north and the south, though I will say the south is infinitely more pleasant than the north, where an oppressive pall hangs in the air constantly.

In my country the maids are mostly from the far east and South Asia. Now the most dangerous, scheming, and untrustworthy are , from what I hear, the Vietnamese. They are capable workers, demanding their rights and generally are a force to reckon with.The other nationalities of the maids are mostly Filipino and Srilankan. They are very subdued compared to Vietnamese.

So, in my mind, the Vietnamese girl will try to extract the pound of flesh from a boyfriend if she can. Her approach to their employers is how to benefit from any arising situation. This is not the case in such an extend with the other nationalities

This is my sincere opinion. I agree with Spidermike that they maybe not a happy lot. Of course, if you go back 20 years and beyond, one remembers that none of the residents of any communist country in Europe were a happy lot. So maybe their attitudes stem from the lack of freedom and the environment of suspicion they are engulfed by.

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