Final crackdown for border runners - New strict Immigration regulation in force from today

[ubonjoe 34,736]

I don't know what to make of this phrase in the statement from Immigration:

"บุคคลสัญชาติเป้าหมาย เช่น เกาหลี ฯลฯ มีดังนี้"

"individuals of target nationalities such as Korean, etc."

Seems odd that they would name Koreans in particular. What are we to make of "etc"? Who's like a Korean, in their eyes? Is there a list of affected nationalities, or has someone verified that this indeed applies to everyone with tourist visas? To me, that bit "such as Korean, etc." badly muddies the water.

Other than that, the statement seems clear enough. They're planning to turn people back at the borders.

I think it is an example for people from countries that have bilateral agreements with Thailand. Koreans get 90 day entries because of it.

[Keng11 1]

Thanks for all the replies.

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[ezzra 33,338]

How about ending the crackdown on crackdowns? Thai immigration are moving the goal post

every time and any time they feel like, a country with 10's of millions of visitors a year should

have a better and easier visa rules and regulations that make sense and easy to obtain and

renew.....

[Spoonman 2,333]

One would hope that those who are studying or working here are doing so on the appropriate visa.

They are. But visas run out, people change jobs, change schools, move to different parts of the country, etc. It affects people who are between visas. Many do border runs for a couple months, while waiting for new paperwork.

Well go and get a 60 day tourist visa then if you plan to stay whilst waiting on paperwork. you can extend that whilst in country if you need more time. not rocket science is it.

I'm not saying it's impossible. But it an added expense and a lot of wasted time for someone that just wanted to do it a couple times while waiting for paperwork. It is a big hassle for a lot of legit tourists too.

Which is why I hope this crackdown will fade away soon, and they will just limited to people who are doing this long term. They should be able to tell the difference between someone living here for years, and someone who does it a few times.

A legit tourist would have planned their stay and will have a visa to cover their stay.

In my opinion I think Thailand should completely get rid off the visa exempt arrival and force everyone that wants to visit go and get a visa.

[fatdrunkandstupid 922]

Well, now the visa system is so complex that no one understands it. Not even the Thais.

What happens if you are a genuine tourist flying around using VOAs (Visa exemptions on arrival) and you pop over to Indo to surf a bit and then come back to Thailand and then pop over again.

It is all degenerating into the ridiculous...

[MacWalen 816]

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[Spoonman 2,333]

Well, now the visa system is so complex that no one understands it. Not even the Thais.

What happens if you are a genuine tourist flying around using VOAs (Visa exemptions on arrival) and you pop over to Indo to surf a bit and then come back to Thailand and then pop over again.

It is all degenerating into the ridiculous...

How many people pop over to Indo to do some surfing via a land border ?

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[khwaibah 7,067]

" From today, foreign nationals residing in Thailand will no longer be able to exit and then re-enter the kingdom via a land border crossing in order to gain another 30 or 15 day stay in Thailand"

Wait for reports of other border crossing come in. Need to see what happens with Lao, Cambodia and Malaysia.

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[MaciejKlimowicz 18]

One of most popular trip plans among my friends visiting Thailand was to come to Bangkok, spend some time traveling around Thailand, than go to Cambodia to see Angkor Wat, come back to Thailand and rest a couple of day on a beach an head back home from Bangkok.

Was it just made impossible?

No not at all. Arriving by air and then leaving and re-entering at the border is not a problem.

Ok, that clears things out. So only one entrance without visa vis land border available. Not a big problem for most tourists then. But a serious one for people between jobs, waiting for papers to be processed and so on. And it does happen here a lot even in well established companies.

So what, they are trying to catch/make lives harder for criminals? They will just operate without visa, not overstay, not a big deal for them. When will the authorities around the word learn that tougher laws only affect the normal people and mean nothing to the criminals....

[ubonjoe 34,736]

as asked before: are people who "stranded" in myanmar allowed to get to an embassy (supposedly in myanmar/rangoon) without having a myanmar visa ? or do they get issued (temporary) voa in tachileik/kawthoung/wherever they are stranded? not allowing people back in in thailand is one thing, people illegally in burma is another thing....

ps. flying from tachileik to yangon is not cheap (130$) and travelling overland will not be permitted.

I have seen nothing to confirm anybody is stranded in Myanmar. They stopped people from crossing when the border opened this morning.

They have given 7 day entries to people that were over the old 4 entry rule at Mae Sai.

[arnestockholm 100]

Is this also effective at the airports? Or only land crossings?

[stickylies 1,869]

A legit tourist would have planned their stay and will have a visa to cover their stay.

In my opinion I think Thailand should completely get rid off the visa exempt arrival and force everyone that wants to visit go and get a visa.

and also force all males to marry a thai woman on arrival, pay for a house, pickup and buffalo and then pizz-ov again, right?

[LawrenceN 970]

But fly out and fly in in 2 days won't be affected?

So fly in and out every 30 days won't be affected?

It will be effected in August 2014.

Correct.

It seems that as of 12 August border runs by air will also no longer be allowed.

I agree that this is an accurate translation of the second point in the memo in Thai from Immigration. It also says people coming in by air will be told to apply for the proper visa until 12 August, then denied just like at the land borders.

[ClutchClark 7,584]

If you go in and out of Thailand every month for say a period of a year - the only purpose being to get 30 days at the border, then I am sorry but you are not a tourist.

Go and fill out all the reams and reams of paperwork and jump through all the hoops like the rest of us had to be able to say here legally long term.

You're joking?

You think those reams and reams of paperwork are more of a PIA than spending a day every month white knuckled in a mini-van hurtling down the highway with bald tires and paying 2000-3000 for the privilege?

There are many "accidental" tourists in LOS who came here for a short time and decided to stay on a bit longer. They saw the well-publicized advertisements and spoke to other travelers and thought this was an acceptable method to extend their stay.

Now they have learned differently and I would gander most will be happy with the actual Visa and will gladly jump through those exhausting hoops with joy compared to the border runs.

[gabruce 687]

It's fine that they are changing the regulations, or how they are enforcing the existing regulations. What I find unfair is doing it without notice (or very little notice). Fancy being stuck at the border unable to return without any warning.

Different if they had posted the notice a month ago.

Oh well.