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Russian denied entry at Phuket International Airport over 'visa' crackdown

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Something "stinks" in this story.

Cannot show sufficient funds; cannot show a return ticket; Visa runs to Ranong; etc...

Top of the iceberg is that she did not want to return to Russia.

Sounds all fishy.

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I believe the shit may well hit the fan over this incident and the inevitable others which will follow.

I hope she's already notified the Russian Embassy about this as I believe she was singled out for being a Russian. If she wasn't a russian it wouldn't have happened.

Note to Mariia when you read this - please contact your Embassy to make an official complaint about this incident.

Yep. This will be the begining of all Russian and western tourists deserting Thailand causing economic collapse which will bring Thailand to it's knees.

I believe there is a clearly defined reciprocal agreement between Russia and Thailand. Lets see how many Thai's get booted out of Russia.

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“The first question they asked was if I had a departing ticket from Thailand – I didn’t. But not a big deal, I could buy one.

Not a big deal? So failing to comply with Thai immigration law is not a big deal? Proof of an onward ticket is a clear requirement of Thai immigration if the passenger does not possess a valid visa. I am surprised the airline allowed her to board, as check-in agents have checked this on every flight I have taken in the last five years. Also, by allowing such an occurrence, airlines (Air Asia in this case) are liable for the air fare back out and they can also be fined.

Singled out for being Russian? Sorry, but Thai immigration were following the letter of the law, and the outward bound ticket/sufficient funds requirements are both part of the law. If anything, it appeared that Immigration were willing to be lenient by asking her to prove sufficient funds when she could not produce an outward bound ticket. And I would not be surprised if this woman displayed a bit of attitude to the immigration officers and perhaps told them that it was "not a big deal" and went on whining about being singled out because she was Russian.

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“The first question they asked was if I had a departing ticket from Thailand – I didn’t. But not a big deal, I could buy one.

Not a big deal? So failing to comply with Thai immigration law is not a big deal? Proof of an onward ticket is a clear requirement of Thai immigration if the passenger does not possess a valid visa. I am surprised the airline allowed her to board, as check-in agents have checked this on every flight I have taken in the last five years. Also, by allowing such an occurrence, airlines (Air Asia in this case) are liable for the air fare back out and they can also be fined.

Singled out for being Russian? Sorry, but Thai immigration were following the letter of the law, and the outward bound ticket/sufficient funds requirements are both part of the law. If anything, it appeared that Immigration were willing to be lenient by asking her to prove sufficient funds when she could not produce an outward bound ticket. And I would not be surprised if this woman displayed a bit of attitude to the immigration officers and perhaps told them that it was "not a big deal" and went on whining about being singled out because she was Russian.

You could have a good point here. It's quite possible she said something they didn't like so they deported her. I wonder if there's a clause in the reciprocal agreement allowing for this kind of idiocy by both sides.

I do know one thing about Russia and it's that they like to respond in kind immediately to anyone who gets one over on them. A prime example being recent US sanctions against a certain Russian Bank, Putin immediately opened an account at the bank in question and now has his salary paid into it. No messing around - he did it straight away.

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“The first question they asked was if I had a departing ticket from Thailand – I didn’t. But not a big deal, I could buy one.

Not a big deal? So failing to comply with Thai immigration law is not a big deal? Proof of an onward ticket is a clear requirement of Thai immigration if the passenger does not possess a valid visa. I am surprised the airline allowed her to board, as check-in agents have checked this on every flight I have taken in the last five years. Also, by allowing such an occurrence, airlines (Air Asia in this case) are liable for the air fare back out and they can also be fined.

Singled out for being Russian? Sorry, but Thai immigration were following the letter of the law, and the outward bound ticket/sufficient funds requirements are both part of the law. If anything, it appeared that Immigration were willing to be lenient by asking her to prove sufficient funds when she could not produce an outward bound ticket. And I would not be surprised if this woman displayed a bit of attitude to the immigration officers and perhaps told them that it was "not a big deal" and went on whining about being singled out because she was Russian.

You could have a good point here. It's quite possible she said something they didn't like so they deported her. I wonder if there's a clause in the reciprocal agreement allowing for this kind of idiocy by both sides.

I do know one thing about Russia and it's that they like to respond in kind immediately to anyone who gets one over on them. A prime example being recent US sanctions against a certain Russian Bank, Putin immediately opened an account at the bank in question and now has his salary paid into it. No messing around - he did it straight away.

I would be willing to bet that she displayed some self-righteous and disrespectful language and attitude to the officers. Try doing this with even Traffic Officer Somchai during a stop in Bangkok. Or Officer Smith during a stop in London or New York or Sydney.

I am guessing the officers probably began to reach their limit at:

After Ms Sgibneva asked to be shown the law, the officers became rude, she said.

This is no "crackdown" and the thread should not be titled as such. She was denied entry based on Thai immigration law, and no doubt treated the officers in a way that caused them to follow the letter of the law without compromise. If the Russians want to play tit for tat, I don't think anyone would have a problem with Russia denying entry to a Thai who fails to follow legal requirements for entry.

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I'm trying to understand her timeline of visa-runs:

After arriving in Phuket in October, Ms Sgibneva left to get a three-month tourist visa in November. She then completed a visa run in February. Subsequently, she left the country on March 21 for a visa run, then again to visit friends in Kuala Lumpur on March 30 and April 18.

- Arrives sometime in October, (presumably by air ==> 30 day visa exempt)

- Leaves within that 30 days to get a 3-month tourist visa

- 3 month tourist visa expires sometime in February and she does (I assume) a 15-day visa-run to Ranong

- Another Ranong visa-run on March 21st (so she must have been on overstay) - gets 15 days

- Leaves (assume by air) to visit friends in KL, not on overstay

- Returns from KL on unknown date, will get 30 days visa-exempt

- Goes again (assume by air) to KL to visit friends, not on overstay

Now unless immigration know something about her that we do not know (criminal etc), it looks like she did 2 visa-runs to Ranong, (one on overstay), and left Thailand well within the validity of her subsequent visa exempts.

So why was she denied entry at the airport???

Russians get 30 days stamp on landborder too. Bilateral agreement, thais don't need visa to Russia

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I don't think anyone would have a problem with Russia denying entry to a Thai who fails to follow legal requirements for entry.

I guess that would all depend on who the Thai is.

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Understandable there are regulations concerning multiple back to back entries but, normally it's been applied to land border crossings. Now immigration has seen it fit to apply to air crossings. You have to wonder what are they thinking? Has anyone in immigration realized tourist arrivals are down to the political unrest? Typical Thai reaction shoot from the hip then shoot themselves in the foot...cheesy.gif

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I'm trying to understand her timeline of visa-runs:

After arriving in Phuket in October, Ms Sgibneva left to get a three-month tourist visa in November. She then completed a visa run in February. Subsequently, she left the country on March 21 for a visa run, then again to visit friends in Kuala Lumpur on March 30 and April 18.

- Arrives sometime in October, (presumably by air ==> 30 day visa exempt)

- Leaves within that 30 days to get a 3-month tourist visa

- 3 month tourist visa expires sometime in February and she does (I assume) a 15-day visa-run to Ranong

- Another Ranong visa-run on March 21st (so she must have been on overstay) - gets 15 days

- Leaves (assume by air) to visit friends in KL, not on overstay

- Returns from KL on unknown date, will get 30 days visa-exempt

- Goes again (assume by air) to KL to visit friends, not on overstay

Now unless immigration know something about her that we do not know (criminal etc), it looks like she did 2 visa-runs to Ranong, (one on overstay), and left Thailand well within the validity of her subsequent visa exempts.

So why was she denied entry at the airport???

She's an attractive 26 year old girl......arrived in Thailand October last year.........no Thai baht on her person.....

I'm not saying she's an illegal....but it does seem a little suspicious.....supposedly not working...??

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So does this mean she has had to quit her job in Phuket permanently ?

Good on immigration getting tough on illegal immigrants who are steeling jobs away from more qualified foreigners.

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Living illegally in Thailand, treating customs officers as if they were ignorant and asking them to be polite?

Get real, you lived illegally on tourist visas in Thailand for too long, not having money so obviously working illegally as well and trying to use your Russian citizenship to intimidate them.

Serves you right.

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