webfact Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 CRIMEPolice make weapons link in probe of deadly attack on PDRCThe NationBANGKOK: -- The spent cartridges fired from automatic weapons in a deadly attack on anti-government protesters in Trat in February were from the same weapon found in a cache of arms seized in a raid last week by police and military officers in Samut Sakhon, police said.In short, an M3 submachine gun - and 45mm munitions - found in the Samut Sakhon raid is the weapon used in the attack on members of the People's Democratic Reform Committee in Trat," deputy police chief General Aek Angsananont told a press conference yesterday.Aek said police were investigating connections between a female suspect, Janthana Warakornsakulkij, who had admitted to owning the weapons, and other people allegedly involved.He said police were also investigating the authenticity of member cards issued by the pro-government United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship that were found in Janthana's apartment.A group of gunmen opened fire with automatic weapons on the PDRC supporters on the night of February 2, killing three people including two young children and wounding a large number of people.Aek said the military had nothing do with the attack.Meanwhile, a paramilitary ranger was shot and killed during a raid on a home in Trat's Khao Saming district where three men suspected of taking part in the attack in February resided.The gunmen grabbed the dead ranger's M16 and fled while the raid team arrested the two others, placing them in custody for questioning.Aek said police were looking further into an attack using M79 and automatic weapons on PDRC supporters occupying Rajdamnoen Avenue in Bangkok this month, but had no further leads.-- The Nation 2014-05-27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IMA_FARANG Posted May 26, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2014 As many of us suspected but it's good that we finally have the ballistics confirming that fact made public. Hopefully also they will find the M-79 launcher that was used often, or at least one of them, and verify them also from ballistics tests. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Somtamnication Posted May 26, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2014 Amazing how well the police work with the proverbial military shotgun aimed at them!! 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NongKhaiKid Posted May 26, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2014 Amazing how well the police work with the proverbial military shotgun aimed at them!! Yes it's a sad day when you go to work and actually have to do some. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jcisco Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 No name given for the fallen, RIP dude. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Amazing how well the police work with the proverbial military shotgun aimed at them!! One suspects a bit more than the proverbial shotgun, maybe more like a few large tanks in this case... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post siampolee Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 While there is concern from the international community concerning the actions of the current military junta there was a deafening silence from those same self righteous smug international bodies concerning the attacks on civilian protesters by armed assassins. Strange how that bastion of freedom Robert Amsterdam stood on the sidelines in complete silence .Indeed the delights of ''paid for dual standards'' are amazing. interesting to note that now the so called leaders or manipulators heading up the assorted self professed security and law keeping bodies have been removed progress is suddenly made in this particular case. Perchance ear medicine was affecting the balance (bias) of the head manipulator of those aforementioned bodies, plus a touch of nepotism here and there along with no doubt the dangling bait of a governmental sinecure and a cash donation too, perish the thought. The last time round in 2006 the military used kid gloves much as was the situation in the first Gulf War, we all saw the results of that inaction and those results were mirrored in Thailand's political, legal, business and social scene in that too long running black comedy ''The Shinwatra puppet show.'' Hopefully this time round the lessons have been learnt and we are hopefully now seeing the cleaning out of the corrupt detritus that has contaminated the Thai political scene since 2001 in its various guises. 36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Roadman Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 While there is concern from the international community concerning the actions of the current military junta there was a deafening silence from those same self righteous smug international bodies concerning the attacks on civilian protesters by armed assassins. Strange how that bastion of freedom Robert Amsterdam stood on the sidelines in complete silence .Indeed the delights of ''paid for dual standards'' are amazing. interesting to note that now the so called leaders or manipulators heading up the assorted self professed security and law keeping bodies have been removed progress is suddenly made in this particular case. Perchance ear medicine was affecting the balance (bias) of the head manipulator of those aforementioned bodies, plus a touch of nepotism here and there along with no doubt the dangling bait of a governmental sinecure and a cash donation too, perish the thought. The last time round in 2006 the military used kid gloves much as was the situation in the first Gulf War, we all saw the results of that inaction and those results were mirrored in Thailand's political, legal, business and social scene in that too long running black comedy ''The Shinwatra puppet show.'' Hopefully this time round the lessons have been learnt and we are hopefully now seeing the cleaning out of the corrupt detritus that has contaminated the Thai political scene since 2001 in its various guises. Excellent post 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TVGerry Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 While there is concern from the international community concerning the actions of the current military junta there was a deafening silence from those same self righteous smug international bodies concerning the attacks on civilian protesters by armed assassins. Strange how that bastion of freedom Robert Amsterdam stood on the sidelines in complete silence .Indeed the delights of ''paid for dual standards'' are amazing. interesting to note that now the so called leaders or manipulators heading up the assorted self professed security and law keeping bodies have been removed progress is suddenly made in this particular case. Perchance ear medicine was affecting the balance (bias) of the head manipulator of those aforementioned bodies, plus a touch of nepotism here and there along with no doubt the dangling bait of a governmental sinecure and a cash donation too, perish the thought. The last time round in 2006 the military used kid gloves much as was the situation in the first Gulf War, we all saw the results of that inaction and those results were mirrored in Thailand's political, legal, business and social scene in that too long running black comedy ''The Shinwatra puppet show.'' Hopefully this time round the lessons have been learnt and we are hopefully now seeing the cleaning out of the corrupt detritus that has contaminated the Thai political scene since 2001 in its various guises. Exactly. The same can be said for the red apologists who make the most noise here on TV! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesetat2013 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 At least now they have uncontroversial proof of the link between the terrorist attack and the PTP/UDD. Now all they need to do is find which leader gave the orders. Then a nice firing squad Sent from my GT-S5310 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post love1012 Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 Someone should tell Jonathan head and Senator Kerry - COUPS get things DONE!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post iancnx Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 While there is concern from the international community concerning the actions of the current military junta there was a deafening silence from those same self righteous smug international bodies concerning the attacks on civilian protesters by armed assassins. Strange how that bastion of freedom Robert Amsterdam stood on the sidelines in complete silence .Indeed the delights of ''paid for dual standards'' are amazing. interesting to note that now the so called leaders or manipulators heading up the assorted self professed security and law keeping bodies have been removed progress is suddenly made in this particular case. Perchance ear medicine was affecting the balance (bias) of the head manipulator of those aforementioned bodies, plus a touch of nepotism here and there along with no doubt the dangling bait of a governmental sinecure and a cash donation too, perish the thought. The last time round in 2006 the military used kid gloves much as was the situation in the first Gulf War, we all saw the results of that inaction and those results were mirrored in Thailand's political, legal, business and social scene in that too long running black comedy ''The Shinwatra puppet show.'' Hopefully this time round the lessons have been learnt and we are hopefully now seeing the cleaning out of the corrupt detritus that has contaminated the Thai political scene since 2001 in its various guises. Excellent post +1. The British Ambassador will report this to the FCO in daily telegrams. The SE Asia Desk (and Foreign Secretary) will ignore it as it does not fit the very special relationship with Uncle Sam. Shameful. At least those poor kids in Trat can RIP, and the families have now some sort of closure. Let's pray justice is meted out, without payment in exchange for leniency. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fcbkk Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 At least now they have uncontroversial proof of the link between the terrorist attack and the PTP/UDD. Now all they need to do is find which leader gave the orders. Then a nice firing squad Sent from my GT-S5310 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app They know more already and more will come out soon no doubt. Hopefully it can lead to those who ordered attacks, but i doubt they left clear evidence, so it may not be as easy, but let's hope. However, please do not call for a firing squad nor call it "nice". It is crucial that perpetrators are held accountable, but it is equally crucial that this happens in a civilised manner that is fundamentally different from that promoted by some extreme UDD/PTP elements - or do you want the same s**t to continue just in different color? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robblok Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 While there is concern from the international community concerning the actions of the current military junta there was a deafening silence from those same self righteous smug international bodies concerning the attacks on civilian protesters by armed assassins. Strange how that bastion of freedom Robert Amsterdam stood on the sidelines in complete silence .Indeed the delights of ''paid for dual standards'' are amazing. interesting to note that now the so called leaders or manipulators heading up the assorted self professed security and law keeping bodies have been removed progress is suddenly made in this particular case. Perchance ear medicine was affecting the balance (bias) of the head manipulator of those aforementioned bodies, plus a touch of nepotism here and there along with no doubt the dangling bait of a governmental sinecure and a cash donation too, perish the thought. The last time round in 2006 the military used kid gloves much as was the situation in the first Gulf War, we all saw the results of that inaction and those results were mirrored in Thailand's political, legal, business and social scene in that too long running black comedy ''The Shinwatra puppet show.'' Hopefully this time round the lessons have been learnt and we are hopefully now seeing the cleaning out of the corrupt detritus that has contaminated the Thai political scene since 2001 in its various guises. Great post, I wonder how many will defend the red shirts if it is know their leaders ordered this attack. Now lets wait for the results and see who is paying for all this and who ordered it. I mentioned in an other topic that ever since there is a coup and the red elements blocking investigations are moved to inactive posts or in custody progress is made. The conclusion can only be the reds did not want this to be solved, I can imagine why. Being linked to murdering kids is bad PR. Though on stage quite a few leaders forgot and were happy and cheered when they got the news about the Trad attack. Only until the smarter leaders came to their senses and silenced them. If there is solid proof implicating the reds, I for one am going to try to forward links to the press in my country to show why it was needed to remove a corrupt government. I got so tired of all the bias news at some point, but its hard to fight the lobbying power of the likes of Robert Amsterdam. Many mentioned even the BBC did not report without bias. I wonder if they will pick up on this too once its proven and aired and expose the red shirts for what they are. But if anti government were to blame I will denounce them just as hard as child killings like in Trad are the lowest of the low. Throwing grenades and firing into a crow is pure terrorism. I do wonder if all the individuals are Thai, as people were saying Thais don't do this. I am pretty sure that more then a few if not all are Thai and not Cambodian. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thumper101 Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) Amazing how well the police work with the proverbial military shotgun aimed at them!! Two very important things must happen from all this. 1.... Forget the criminal courts, All those rounded up who are connected to these atrocious crimes should be put in front of a court martial and condemned to death, marched out and put straight in front of a military firing squad. 2.... The military should appoint an investigative unit to ferret out the chain of command within the police force and find the uppermost level where the command was given to stop the investigations of the murders of these children and protesters. This is conspiracy to commit murder. once those guilty at the top are established, they too should be marched into a military court and receive the exact same fate. This will serve as a warning to others that this sort of thing is not tolerated in LOS and any acts of terrorism will be met with a swift execution, not languishing in prison for a few years waiting for the royal pardon. This is all 'one in the eye' for all those TV reds who were accusing the PDRC of doing all these attacks themselves for sympathy. Edited May 27, 2014 by thumper101 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Prbkk Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 While there is concern from the international community concerning the actions of the current military junta there was a deafening silence from those same self righteous smug international bodies concerning the attacks on civilian protesters by armed assassins. Strange how that bastion of freedom Robert Amsterdam stood on the sidelines in complete silence .Indeed the delights of ''paid for dual standards'' are amazing. interesting to note that now the so called leaders or manipulators heading up the assorted self professed security and law keeping bodies have been removed progress is suddenly made in this particular case. Perchance ear medicine was affecting the balance (bias) of the head manipulator of those aforementioned bodies, plus a touch of nepotism here and there along with no doubt the dangling bait of a governmental sinecure and a cash donation too, perish the thought. The last time round in 2006 the military used kid gloves much as was the situation in the first Gulf War, we all saw the results of that inaction and those results were mirrored in Thailand's political, legal, business and social scene in that too long running black comedy ''The Shinwatra puppet show.'' Hopefully this time round the lessons have been learnt and we are hopefully now seeing the cleaning out of the corrupt detritus that has contaminated the Thai political scene since 2001 in its various guises. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story. In FACT, many groups, bodies, organisations, countries DID condemn the violence and expressed concern and regret about the civilian deaths in the protests and particularly so in respect of the children in Trat and outside Big C. Either you didn't notice or now choose to forget , for whatever reason 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post iancnx Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 While there is concern from the international community concerning the actions of the current military junta there was a deafening silence from those same self righteous smug international bodies concerning the attacks on civilian protesters by armed assassins. Strange how that bastion of freedom Robert Amsterdam stood on the sidelines in complete silence .Indeed the delights of ''paid for dual standards'' are amazing. interesting to note that now the so called leaders or manipulators heading up the assorted self professed security and law keeping bodies have been removed progress is suddenly made in this particular case. Perchance ear medicine was affecting the balance (bias) of the head manipulator of those aforementioned bodies, plus a touch of nepotism here and there along with no doubt the dangling bait of a governmental sinecure and a cash donation too, perish the thought. The last time round in 2006 the military used kid gloves much as was the situation in the first Gulf War, we all saw the results of that inaction and those results were mirrored in Thailand's political, legal, business and social scene in that too long running black comedy ''The Shinwatra puppet show.'' Hopefully this time round the lessons have been learnt and we are hopefully now seeing the cleaning out of the corrupt detritus that has contaminated the Thai political scene since 2001 in its various guises. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story. In FACT, many groups, bodies, organisations, countries DID condemn the violence and expressed concern and regret about the civilian deaths in the protests and particularly so in respect of the children in Trat and outside Big C. Either you didn't notice or now choose to forget , for whatever reason So are you still a supporter of a PTP leadership which looks as if it inspired massacre against innocent women and children, or are you reconsidering your position? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thumper101 Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 While there is concern from the international community concerning the actions of the current military junta there was a deafening silence from those same self righteous smug international bodies concerning the attacks on civilian protesters by armed assassins. Strange how that bastion of freedom Robert Amsterdam stood on the sidelines in complete silence .Indeed the delights of ''paid for dual standards'' are amazing. interesting to note that now the so called leaders or manipulators heading up the assorted self professed security and law keeping bodies have been removed progress is suddenly made in this particular case. Perchance ear medicine was affecting the balance (bias) of the head manipulator of those aforementioned bodies, plus a touch of nepotism here and there along with no doubt the dangling bait of a governmental sinecure and a cash donation too, perish the thought. The last time round in 2006 the military used kid gloves much as was the situation in the first Gulf War, we all saw the results of that inaction and those results were mirrored in Thailand's political, legal, business and social scene in that too long running black comedy ''The Shinwatra puppet show.'' Hopefully this time round the lessons have been learnt and we are hopefully now seeing the cleaning out of the corrupt detritus that has contaminated the Thai political scene since 2001 in its various guises. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story. In FACT, many groups, bodies, organisations, countries DID condemn the violence and expressed concern and regret about the civilian deaths in the protests and particularly so in respect of the children in Trat and outside Big C. Either you didn't notice or now choose to forget , for whatever reason I think he means all the ones making all the noise now... the EU, US State Dept, Human Rights and the UN. None of those bothered to bat an eyelid when people were being slaughtered at the hands of the government supporting dogs. Neither did they demand the government or the DSI or CAPO or the police find these dregs and bring them to justice. They just continually barked support for the government, even though they all probably knew deep down that these exact same people they were supporting to remain in power were the exact same regime that was almost certainly behind the facilitation for the perpetuation and continence of these murders, ..... if not...... secretly ordering them. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I think Thailand has become the HUB of "singers" Unfortunately those in the leadership that ordered these operations have most likely already fled the country, unless of course they are already esteemed guests of General Prayuth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usual Suspect Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Thumper101's post above about rounding the suspects up..military court, then firing squad would indeed send a clear message to the nation... ...no more big 'donations' from the culprits family, no more exemptions because of how high-ranking that person is within his profession (or transfers to another post up-country)..this would be the start of 'real law' in the LOS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 While there is concern from the international community concerning the actions of the current military junta there was a deafening silence from those same self righteous smug international bodies concerning the attacks on civilian protesters by armed assassins. Strange how that bastion of freedom Robert Amsterdam stood on the sidelines in complete silence .Indeed the delights of ''paid for dual standards'' are amazing. interesting to note that now the so called leaders or manipulators heading up the assorted self professed security and law keeping bodies have been removed progress is suddenly made in this particular case. Perchance ear medicine was affecting the balance (bias) of the head manipulator of those aforementioned bodies, plus a touch of nepotism here and there along with no doubt the dangling bait of a governmental sinecure and a cash donation too, perish the thought. The last time round in 2006 the military used kid gloves much as was the situation in the first Gulf War, we all saw the results of that inaction and those results were mirrored in Thailand's political, legal, business and social scene in that too long running black comedy ''The Shinwatra puppet show.'' Hopefully this time round the lessons have been learnt and we are hopefully now seeing the cleaning out of the corrupt detritus that has contaminated the Thai political scene since 2001 in its various guises. Nnaah...all those since 2001...were just honest mistakes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelplatoon Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 NOW they start making progress. Or weren t they ALLOWED to make progress before? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rebelplatoon Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 So. . . Ok. . . Where are the red defending folks that, after every attack, either said it was the PDRC shooting their own or it wasn t proven yet? Its clear now that this vile attack on women and children was the reds doing. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Someone should tell Jonathan head and Senator Kerry - COUPS get things DONE!!! They know it...therefor they hate it....What would happen if the US army remembers its duty and refuse to attack a country and instead coup away the corrupt politic mafia? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AleG Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 So. . . Ok. . . Where are the red defending folks that, after every attack, either said it was the PDRC shooting their own or it wasn t proven yet? Its clear now that this vile attack on women and children was the reds doing. Don't worry, one or two will show up to throw the perfunctory "it's a conspiracy by the Army" post and scoot away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fcbkk Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 While there is concern from the international community concerning the actions of the current military junta there was a deafening silence from those same self righteous smug international bodies concerning the attacks on civilian protesters by armed assassins. Strange how that bastion of freedom Robert Amsterdam stood on the sidelines in complete silence .Indeed the delights of ''paid for dual standards'' are amazing. interesting to note that now the so called leaders or manipulators heading up the assorted self professed security and law keeping bodies have been removed progress is suddenly made in this particular case. Perchance ear medicine was affecting the balance (bias) of the head manipulator of those aforementioned bodies, plus a touch of nepotism here and there along with no doubt the dangling bait of a governmental sinecure and a cash donation too, perish the thought. The last time round in 2006 the military used kid gloves much as was the situation in the first Gulf War, we all saw the results of that inaction and those results were mirrored in Thailand's political, legal, business and social scene in that too long running black comedy ''The Shinwatra puppet show.'' Hopefully this time round the lessons have been learnt and we are hopefully now seeing the cleaning out of the corrupt detritus that has contaminated the Thai political scene since 2001 in its various guises. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story. In FACT, many groups, bodies, organisations, countries DID condemn the violence and expressed concern and regret about the civilian deaths in the protests and particularly so in respect of the children in Trat and outside Big C. Either you didn't notice or now choose to forget , for whatever reason I think he means all the ones making all the noise now... the EU, US State Dept, Human Rights and the UN. None of those bothered to bat an eyelid when people were being slaughtered at the hands of the government supporting dogs. Neither did they demand the government or the DSI or CAPO or the police find these dregs and bring them to justice. They just continually barked support for the government, even though they all probably knew deep down that these exact same people they were supporting to remain in power were the exact same regime that was almost certainly behind the facilitation for the perpetuation and continence of these murders, ..... if not...... secretly ordering them. in addition - and for me personally most telling - was the fact there was no credible sincere condemnation from the ruling powers themselves at the time. It was more important for Yingluck to inspect vegetables on a PR tour somewhere in the country than going on TV to address the nation and condemn the killings - especially as their own hardcore supporters were filmed cheering the news of killings. What kind of "government" does not make a clear public address in such a situation?? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aimbc Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 While there is concern from the international community concerning the actions of the current military junta there was a deafening silence from those same self righteous smug international bodies concerning the attacks on civilian protesters by armed assassins. Strange how that bastion of freedom Robert Amsterdam stood on the sidelines in complete silence .Indeed the delights of ''paid for dual standards'' are amazing. interesting to note that now the so called leaders or manipulators heading up the assorted self professed security and law keeping bodies have been removed progress is suddenly made in this particular case. Perchance ear medicine was affecting the balance (bias) of the head manipulator of those aforementioned bodies, plus a touch of nepotism here and there along with no doubt the dangling bait of a governmental sinecure and a cash donation too, perish the thought. The last time round in 2006 the military used kid gloves much as was the situation in the first Gulf War, we all saw the results of that inaction and those results were mirrored in Thailand's political, legal, business and social scene in that too long running black comedy ''The Shinwatra puppet show.'' Hopefully this time round the lessons have been learnt and we are hopefully now seeing the cleaning out of the corrupt detritus that has contaminated the Thai political scene since 2001 in its various guises. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story. In FACT, many groups, bodies, organisations, countries DID condemn the violence and expressed concern and regret about the civilian deaths in the protests and particularly so in respect of the children in Trat and outside Big C. Either you didn't notice or now choose to forget , for whatever reason Yeah leave it up to this guy to speak up and defend the injustice by this govt. Everyone, because of political correctness has to say that they condemn it. Even YS condemned it. But by the mere action of the govt not finding the killers speaks louder than words. And you believe in democracy. Maybe you do, but you sure have a deep agenda. Maybe it's your training with the US military to disseminate information to help deviate from the truth. That is what US is good with. If you truly believe in democracy, then the action by this govt is truly undemocratic. The basic rights in a democracy is the freedom of speech. That my friend was taken away a long time ago with the first attacks and murder of innocent protesters at their sites. And this is where US and the entire International community turned a blind eye on the atrocity committed by this government. Not catching even one person for the murder is a form of suppression of freedom of speech. Let me explain to you how this is a form of suppression of free speech. After 23 people killed and 700+ injured, you mean there is not one suspected found? People are scared for their lives, literally, because police are not able to defend their basic democratic rights. Hence people are afraid to speak up against the government or go to the rallies. And even the head of the govt, Chalerm, warned democratic citizens not to go to these rally because they are concern for their safety. If that is not suppression of free speech, I don't know what is. They even shown their true color by finding gunman when it concerns anyone attacking their supporters, like the UDD group. Making arrest of people with arms and linking them to PDRC. With so many much more incidents against the protesters, they can't even catch one. But now with the military, within a few days of taking power catches these criminal, which police did nothing to go after them. And the biggest crime are US and all the international community not demanding the govt. to protect the basic rights of people here. Talking about hypocrites. Denouncing the coup, when democracy was already destroyed. This is a reset that is needed. I sometimes forget, that the govt. of these countries probably have to look out for their own peeps. So they are willing to turn a blind eye on the issue that goes against their associates. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemini81 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 While there is concern from the international community concerning the actions of the current military junta there was a deafening silence from those same self righteous smug international bodies concerning the attacks on civilian protesters by armed assassins. Strange how that bastion of freedom Robert Amsterdam stood on the sidelines in complete silence .Indeed the delights of ''paid for dual standards'' are amazing. interesting to note that now the so called leaders or manipulators heading up the assorted self professed security and law keeping bodies have been removed progress is suddenly made in this particular case. Perchance ear medicine was affecting the balance (bias) of the head manipulator of those aforementioned bodies, plus a touch of nepotism here and there along with no doubt the dangling bait of a governmental sinecure and a cash donation too, perish the thought. The last time round in 2006 the military used kid gloves much as was the situation in the first Gulf War, we all saw the results of that inaction and those results were mirrored in Thailand's political, legal, business and social scene in that too long running black comedy ''The Shinwatra puppet show.'' Hopefully this time round the lessons have been learnt and we are hopefully now seeing the cleaning out of the corrupt detritus that has contaminated the Thai political scene since 2001 in its various guises. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story. In FACT, many groups, bodies, organisations, countries DID condemn the violence and expressed concern and regret about the civilian deaths in the protests and particularly so in respect of the children in Trat and outside Big C. Either you didn't notice or now choose to forget , for whatever reason Yeah leave it up to this guy to speak up and defend the injustice by this govt. Everyone, because of political correctness has to say that they condemn it. Even YS condemned it. But by the mere action of the govt not finding the killers speaks louder than words. And you believe in democracy. Maybe you do, but you sure have a deep agenda. Maybe it's your training with the US military to disseminate information to help deviate from the truth. That is what US is good with. If you truly believe in democracy, then the action by this govt is truly undemocratic. The basic rights in a democracy is the freedom of speech. That my friend was taken away a long time ago with the first attacks and murder of innocent protesters at their sites. And this is where US and the entire International community turned a blind eye on the atrocity committed by this government. Not catching even one person for the murder is a form of suppression of freedom of speech. Let me explain to you how this is a form of suppression of free speech. After 23 people killed and 700+ injured, you mean there is not one suspected found? People are scared for their lives, literally, because police are not able to defend their basic democratic rights. Hence people are afraid to speak up against the government or go to the rallies. And even the head of the govt, Chalerm, warned democratic citizens not to go to these rally because they are concern for their safety. If that is not suppression of free speech, I don't know what is. They even shown their true color by finding gunman when it concerns anyone attacking their supporters, like the UDD group. Making arrest of people with arms and linking them to PDRC. With so many much more incidents against the protesters, they can't even catch one. But now with the military, within a few days of taking power catches these criminal, which police did nothing to go after them. And the biggest crime are US and all the international community not demanding the govt. to protect the basic rights of people here. Talking about hypocrites. Denouncing the coup, when democracy was already destroyed. This is a reset that is needed. I sometimes forget, that the govt. of these countries probably have to look out for their own peeps. So they are willing to turn a blind eye on the issue that goes against their associates. Well stated. Somebody is thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 While there is concern from the international community concerning the actions of the current military junta there was a deafening silence from those same self righteous smug international bodies concerning the attacks on civilian protesters by armed assassins. Strange how that bastion of freedom Robert Amsterdam stood on the sidelines in complete silence .Indeed the delights of ''paid for dual standards'' are amazing. interesting to note that now the so called leaders or manipulators heading up the assorted self professed security and law keeping bodies have been removed progress is suddenly made in this particular case. Perchance ear medicine was affecting the balance (bias) of the head manipulator of those aforementioned bodies, plus a touch of nepotism here and there along with no doubt the dangling bait of a governmental sinecure and a cash donation too, perish the thought. The last time round in 2006 the military used kid gloves much as was the situation in the first Gulf War, we all saw the results of that inaction and those results were mirrored in Thailand's political, legal, business and social scene in that too long running black comedy ''The Shinwatra puppet show.'' Hopefully this time round the lessons have been learnt and we are hopefully now seeing the cleaning out of the corrupt detritus that has contaminated the Thai political scene since 2001 in its various guises. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story. In FACT, many groups, bodies, organisations, countries DID condemn the violence and expressed concern and regret about the civilian deaths in the protests and particularly so in respect of the children in Trat and outside Big C. Either you didn't notice or now choose to forget , for whatever reason I think he means all the ones making all the noise now... the EU, US State Dept, Human Rights and the UN. None of those bothered to bat an eyelid when people were being slaughtered at the hands of the government supporting dogs. Neither did they demand the government or the DSI or CAPO or the police find these dregs and bring them to justice. They just continually barked support for the government, even though they all probably knew deep down that these exact same people they were supporting to remain in power were the exact same regime that was almost certainly behind the facilitation for the perpetuation and continence of these murders, ..... if not...... secretly ordering them. in addition - and for me personally most telling - was the fact there was no credible sincere condemnation from the ruling powers themselves at the time. It was more important for Yingluck to inspect vegetables on a PR tour somewhere in the country than going on TV to address the nation and condemn the killings - especially as their own hardcore supporters were filmed cheering the news of killings. What kind of "government" does not make a clear public address in such a situation?? In General Prayuths own words "where are they now" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangebrew Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Why is it the police are finally acting like police did the General stick a cattle prod up there wahzoo? If so may I suggest turn up the juice . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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