Popular Post webfact Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 Royal Thai Police to undergo major reformBANGKOK: -- The Royal Thai Police may be dissolved and turned into a ministry with 17 departments under its supervision, said the acting commissioner of the Royal Thai Police Pol Gen Watcharapol Prasarnrajkit.The major reform is expected to be worked out and forwarded to the National Council for Peace and Order in four months, he said.Under his proposed reform, the commissioner will turn into the permanent secretary and the Royal Thai Police will be called the Ministry of Internal Safety with a minister in charge.He said the new structure of the Royal Thai Police has been worked out for a certain period since the former commissioner Pol Gen Adul Sangsingkeo was in charge.But after the power change, it would be timely to propose the new structure.He said the Thai societies have high expectations of seeing change in the police organisation and the decentralisation of police power.When the time has now come and everybody wants to see reform, it would be the right time for change, he said.He said that this would be the good time to regain the police image.Asked how he could make the police free of political intervention under the reform, the acting police commissioner said that as the police and politicians have a common goal of wanting to see social safety, peace and sufficient earnings of the people, if these could be achieved, it would be a shield to keep off political intervention.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/royal-thai-police-undergo-major-reform/ -- Thai PBS 2014-05-27 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post samran Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 "Reform". Is that what they are calling it? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chotthee Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 "Reform". Is that what they are calling it? More police chief have to be moved, not just Thawil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JetsetBkk Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 the Royal Thai Police will be called the Ministry of Internal Safety Maybe "Ministry of Internal Security" would be better, or would that sound just a tad too much like a dictatorship? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post draftvader Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) I did wonder why the police were working so hard today. In 20km of Bangkok I passed at least 5 policemen trying to constructively motivate (that's what I call it) traffic and 2 roadblocks where they were ensuring people had the right paper-work in their wallets. I wish our new leaders much luck with this task. I fear they might want to also try to herd cats and roll jelly uphill. Edited May 27, 2014 by draftvader 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JetsetBkk Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 forwarded to the National Council for Peace and Order in four months Four months? Can we have our telly back before then, pretty please? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stradavarius37 Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 Any reform is better than than no reform, and no reform is what we have had for a long time. Cue the cynics...... Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) Asked how he could make the police free of political intervention under the reform, the acting police commissioner said that as the police and politicians have a common goal of wanting to see social safety, peace and sufficient earnings of the people, if these could be achieved, it would be a shield to keep off political intervention. It is good to see that some traditions are maintained. For example, making such remarks. Edited May 27, 2014 by Morch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Just1Voice Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 Reform Police? Gee, here's a idea for you. Fire ALL of them, let troops take over for a while. Bring in REAL police from, oh, Singapore, Hong Kong, South Korea, Japan, places like that, have them train all new recruits on what it really means to be a cop and how to do the job they are supposed to. Then give them a raise so they can make a decent living. Also institute a law that ANY RTP caught asking for, or taking a bribe, is fired immediately and sentenced to 5 years in prison. 100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morch Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 Reform Police? Gee, here's a idea for you. Fire ALL of them, let troops take over for a while. Bring in REAL police from, oh, Singapore, Hong Kong, South Korea, Japan, places like that, have them train all new recruits on what it really means to be a cop and how to do the job they are supposed to. Then give them a raise so they can make a decent living. Also institute a law that ANY RTP caught asking for, or taking a bribe, is fired immediately and sentenced to 5 years in prison. Next thing you'll be expecting foreign English teachers. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chang_paarp Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 IF and that is a mighty big if, the Generals can shape the RTP into a modern police force between now and the next election (should give them some time ) with merit based promotion and maintained professional standards, they will have done the Thai populace a huge service. Come on, someone tell me I'm dreaming. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smutcakes Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 Anyone can say 'reform' the proof will be in the pudding. I dont really see how making it a ministry would make much difference. Lets wait and see, hopefully its not just talk. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post keemapoot Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 Will those who wish to remain in leadership have to disavow their patron saint who's currently on holiday in the middle east? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Will those who wish to remain in leadership have to disavow their patron saint who's currently on holiday in the middle east? Doesn't matter much if they take a new patron saint instead. Problem remains the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentine Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Just having some kind of reshuffle to become a ministry is not really major reform. Changing the structure is one thing but changing the mindset of the police actually do the job they are paid for is another thing altogether. However, it is positive they are talking about reform although the cynic in me suggests this proposal has come out before something else is forced upon them. We should wait & see the exact nature of the proposal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Renaming and reorganizing an organization won't necessarily change anything....just gives the old bosses new duty titles and some different people to boss around. But maybe there will be some true reform in this "maybe" proposal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Just having some kind of reshuffle to become a ministry is not really major reform. Changing the structure is one thing but changing the mindset of the police actually do the job they are paid for is another thing altogether. However, it is positive they are talking about reform although the cynic in me suggests this proposal has come out before something else is forced upon them. We should wait & see the exact nature of the proposal. Perhaps the proposal is for the BiB to actually do something for their salary. Some do, but many don't unless an "incentive" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrence1366 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 How does making the police department reporting to a ministry keep them away from the politicians? Isn't the Minister of Justice a politician? Unless it is created as an independent agency but then, even they're within reach of a politician, like the DSI? Can somebody please enlighten me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JohnnyJazz Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 I've been around, worked on every continent, Thai police is one of the best I had to deal with. As far as I'm concerned they are doing a good job. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotsak Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 IMHO it's FUBAR :> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelplatoon Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 If they can do it and curb corruption (at least a bit) I am all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AnotherOneAmerican Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 I read the foreigner posts and hang my head in shame. The only word I can think of is "collaborators". 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMSOBAD Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Take ALL RTP and make them Taxi drivers that must use the meter. Take all TAXI drivers and make them RTP that must obey the law and no corruption. Keeps them all busy and no time to riot. Have toll free complaint number. Anyone caught cheating gets a public beating to lose face. Treat them like the punks they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMSOBAD Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Lets make Jet ski operators into garbage men while we are doing all of this FANTASY POLICE RESHUFFLE. Nothing will work if people /police/ taxis/jet ski scum are not punished beyond belief. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post icommunity Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 Not only the Royal Thai Army but also the entire armed forces, security agencies, independence agencies, judicial system, privy council, and the senate so that they are freed from political intervention. They are supposed be neutral. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bkkstooge Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 I've been around, worked on every continent, Thai police is one of the best I had to deal with. As far as I'm concerned they are doing a good job. Ahhh you're been a bit sarcastic 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scorecard Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> IF and that is a mighty big if, the Generals can shape the RTP into a modern police force between now and the next election (should give them some time alt=whistling.gif> ) with merit based promotion and maintained professional standards, they will have done the Thai populace a huge service. Come on, someone tell me I'm dreaming. Well I hope it's not a dream. Something to consider- Make it a punishable offense, serious jail time etc., for politicians / anybody who ties to interfere with / influence police investigations., etc. - Make it a punishable offense, dismissal and jail time, for any policeman, any rank who does not report, perhaps to the ombudsman, that someone from outside has tried to interfere / influence with police work. - As part of the reforms set up a committee or whatever which has zero ties to the police, transparent, members appointed through a process which politicians cannot influence, to investigate all complaints against the police. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsetBkk Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Just having some kind of reshuffle to become a ministry is not really major reform. Changing the structure is one thing but changing the mindset of the police actually do the job they are paid for is another thing altogether. However, it is positive they are talking about reform although the cynic in me suggests this proposal has come out before something else is forced upon them. We should wait & see the exact nature of the proposal. But aren't the police partly funded by the fines they collect? If so, stopping that practice, issuing receipts for fines and tracking where the money goes might help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post casualbiker Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 If they want a professional police force they (government) need to treat them like one.. provide uniforms, vehicles and hand guns (currently they buy their own, except special cases highway patrol cars etc) also a more reasonable wage ONLY then could you plausible stop corruption in the force. Sent from my XT1032 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post keemapoot Posted May 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2014 If they want a professional police force they (government) need to treat them like one.. provide uniforms, vehicles and hand guns (currently they buy their own, except special cases highway patrol cars etc) also a more reasonable wage ONLY then could you plausible stop corruption in the force. Sent from my XT1032 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app You haven't mentioned the huge "membership fee" either for new recruits. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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