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tuky

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Goodluck mate!!! If alcohol is an end all be all of one's life - certainly one should take action for it not to be.

Try a substitute - hit the gym mate. (postive addiction for a negative)

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.....Believe me it only gets worse, NEVER better.....

So True, excellent comment :o

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Best of luck. Check out AA- only you can decide if you are an alcoholic. You'll get a lot of support. Try it for 90 days. You may find you will hear someone tell their story at a meeting and you'll say "my god, thats me". I know for most people who "cross the line" between social drinking and problem drinking, "controlled" drinking does not work.

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My 2 bahts worth: Stress is a BIG factor with any addiction. With myself - any time I drink coffee, I later have a need for to drink alcohol and/or smoke cigarettes. Bear that in mind also, Tuky! Try substituting coffee for black or especially, Green tea - an anti-oxidant ( or poison-stripper, in other words).

Try to consume as many anti-oxidants (in your diet) as possible. Do your research - anti-oxidants range from certain fruits & veggies to fish, green tea, etc. (check the web).

I truly believe that we are what we eat and drink. Sometimes, our consumption over-rides our body and that is when we lose control. Without the will and knowledge of how to regain control, we are all at risk of hitting rock bottom.

Research, Tuky, research! :o

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Hi Tuky

As a reletive newcomer to Thai Visa I would like to wish you all the best in your attempt to kick the habit.

Can I suggest that your first step in the right direction should be to change your avatar to something less controversial, say more family orientated.

Once again all the best and be strong

TBWG

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Good luck, Reith. It's not going to be easy. But be strong!! :o

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I would just like to say good luck to you and remember you have already made the most important step by realising and admitting that your drinking is indeed a problem.

Good luck.

Noodles.

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You gotta do it cold turkey, I mean cold Tuky, dude. you know what's gonna happen if you have so much as 1 pop. I would do some walking in the BKK heat and bake that shit right out of your system. Hit the sauna or just sweat it outta ya right outside. I'm not so sure though if you should be trying to knock off the cigs at the same time though. That might be too tough. Certainly you can cut the cigs down as you are cold turkeying it. I have a good friend who pulled off what you are going to try and he did it. He was a major alchie but he never went back and he never touches the sauce. Good luck, you can do it but do it right

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Good luck me old mate, i am sure you will be fine. You have the support from a lot of people me included, anytime mate, just an email away. :o

Seriously mate anytime you wanna talk feel free :D

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Tuky, you can do this.

Every time you think you want a drink, just hold up your kids photos and say out loud.

NO, I dont want a drink, I want to carry on being a wonderfull father to them and be someone they love and respect. Not an OLD ALCKY

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Tuky,

Good luck mate. As you will see there are a few members of AA on this forum me being one of them. Yes I was a hopeless cronic alkie but I walked through the doors of AA in August 1980 and that was the greatest single decision I have ever made. I had tried to stop drinking every which way but it was only through the great people in AA that help me stay stopped. I wont put too much of my story on a public forum only to say that AA gave me another chance at life. One incident that did happen in my early days of sobriety and you will be able to identify with this. My son who was 8 years old at the time was lying on my lap watching TV and he looked up at me and said "Dad please dont ever drink again" that still brings tears to my eyes today.

I know you are going to make it because you have made the first step in the right direction and that takes a lot of GUTS. If you wish you can email or PM me and I would be only too happy to talk with you.

Cheers Tony >> link to AA in Thailand>>http://www.aathailand.org/

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Tuky,

I admire you for admitting to your problems on an open forum..that takes a lot of guts..

However AA categorically say that you cannot possibly deal with more than one addiction at a time.

You have to imagine yourself as a guy with two crutches that he needs to get through his daily life.

If you take one away (Drinking) you can still walk (until you get used to it on one).

If you take away TWO (Drinking & Smoking)..you fall flat on your face.

Once you have mastered getting around on one crutch then you can contemplate getting shot of the second one.

PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT STOP SMOKING...YET.

Get yourself off the booze and be comfortable with being off the booze first. Get into AA, it really IS the ONLY way to STAY STOPPED

Why do I think I am qualified to say such things?

I won't go into a very long story except to say that at one time I was heavily involved in AA back in the UK as a Branch Secretary.. I did not have a drink for 4 years as a result of my involvement in AA... Alcohol came BACK into my life when I STOPPED going as it does with most people that give up going and thinking they can do it alone..simple fact is you can't..unfortunatley. If you do you will become a "Dry Drunk" meaning that although you do not drink you will always want one, once you get yourself into AA you will find yourself THINKING DIFFERENTLY and will be uplifted by the camaradre and support that you find within these groups. many view AA as bunch of drunks with string tied round their coats.. I have yet to see one of them , except those that have not stopped.

My ex was at a meeting when she was in recovery and in walked Eric Clapton..its no secret that he goes to AA meetings, so do many other high profile people as well as Doctors, Dentists, Police Inspectors, I have even met a JUDGE at an AA meeting !

You have to accept that you can NEVER DRINK AGAIN.. Forget about going without for lengthy periods and then having "Just the one" because you think you can handle it.. you never will be able to and its great that you have realised that you have to stop.

For alcoholics "One drink is never enough and one drink is too many"

I have issues of my own to deal with..but this is neither the time nor place to discuss them, this is about YOU and your decision to quit

I wish you the very best of luck from the bottom of my heart , I really feel for you, but there IS A WAY :o

PS. Best put a cross on the Chang Bottle top too :D

Good Luck Mate

TP

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Tuky,

Haven't seen you very much lately on the subforums I frequent, but I've always liked and admired what I've seen of you in your posts. As you describe it, you do have a serious problem to overcome, and I'd have to say I have no idea how difficult it will be for you.

However, I do know that you will need to change other things in your life- not just smoking and drinking- that means you'll need to go to new places where there's no alcohol or smoking allowed, and find new friends who won't be smoking and drinking around you. I don't remember your situation regarding how long you have to be away from your family, but the sooner you can be back together with them the better.

If you're back in Thailand at any point, I'd be happy to hang out with you without smoking or drinking. Good luck and keep us posted.

"S"

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I agree with ThaiPauly - if you try and quit smoking at the same time as the booze you'll make life h3ll for yourself.

About two years ago I also went off the rails with Vodka. It came to a point similar to yours, almost going through an entire bottle an evening. After a few days I of this woke up and thought this has got to stop.

Went complete cold turkey on alcohol for a week. The first two nights were almost sleepless, and whatever sleep I did get was scattered in bizarre dreams. Three or four days later normal sleeping patterns started to resume.

Now I stick to beer and the occasional whiskey at Thai parties.

/edit - Forgot to mention - Good Luck! I'm sure you'll figure this one out.

Edited by Insight

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Tuky

Good luck and good health.

I do not envy you in your decision. I stopped smoking 25 years ago and still get the odd pang. It gets easier to say no as time goes by. I still drink but only through will power do I only drink occasionally.

According to the smoking folk it takes 3-5 times to give up, this will be the same with drinking. Just remember it is like teaching your kids to ride a bike, when they fall off you tell them to get back on and keep trying, do the same for your self, with the same hard love.

Also drink lots of water, if you need a drink grab a water, to prevent weight problems keep it plain boring water, it helps you flush the system out. Yes you will be best mates with the toilet, but it will help you feel better and you will have something in your hand.

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