coma Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Send them straight back to where they come from. If they want a better life then they, along with their fellow countryman, need to fight for one. Please find a big rock, preferably in your home country and stay under it. Also look up the word compassion Don't presume you know anything about me. Where my " home country" is or if I am currently living in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coma Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I don't know why they came here, and you don't know why they came here. Until we do know, dont make the assumption that they are refugess flleing North Koreaa. They MAY be that, but in the other hand that is a drug area. isn't it? North Korean DIPLOMATS have been caught smuggling drugs before. Until we know what they are doing here, don't be making assumptions on what they came here for. At last somebody not living in a bubble word and not blinded by having one's head stuck in the clouds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coma Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 North Korea won't change until the people there force it to change. Because after all these years of NK insanity it has turned into a joke of a childish communist dictatorship, with no end in sight. Doc Blake Exactly my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coma Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Send them straight back to where they come from. If they want a better life then they, along with their fellow countryman, need to fight for one. Please find a big rock, preferably in your home country and stay under it. Also look up the word compassion Don't presume you know anything about me. Where my " home country" is or if I am currently living in it. And furthermore. You might want to look up the word compassion under The Korean War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coma Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Send them straight back to where they come from. If they want a better life then they, along with their fellow countryman, need to fight for one. Please find a big rock, preferably in your home country and stay under it. Also look up the word compassion Don't presume you know anything about me. Where my " home country" is or if I am currently living in it. And furthermore. You might want to look up the word compassion under The Korean War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawrenceN Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I remember the National Geographic article about this. China - Laos - Thailand is the usual route for those escaping from NKorea. Here's the article: http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2009/02/north-korea/oneill-text/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dap Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 (edited) Send them straight back to where they come from. If they want a better life then they, along with their fellow countryman, need to fight for one. Wow! Where is the "compassion"? I couldn't imagine what they went through to get here, but I'm gonna' guess it was no "walk in the park." Edit: Bitterness from the Korean conflict/war certainly does not extend to it's unfortunate children. We ain't no saints either. Time to chill Edited June 9, 2014 by Dap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbolai Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Send them straight back to where they come from. If they want a better life then they, along with their fellow countryman, need to fight for one. Man, I hate to tell you that I agree. Most if not all counties had to fight to get freedom. The French did, the Americans did and many others. We should help them with technology and arms but no boots on the ground. A civil was or revolution must be fought by the local people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Send them straight back to where they come from. If they want a better life then they, along with their fellow countryman, need to fight for one. vile really vile post..your ignorance is outstanding this afternoon..you really should delete your post ... No! They are law breakers. Having been to North Korea, I can tell you that there is no way to fight that regime any more than those sent to the gulags could fight Stalin or the Jews could fight Hitler. It is a brutal place where neighbor must rat on neighbor. These people escaped a brutal regime and managed to cross thousands of miles of hostile China. Law breakers they are not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I don't know why they came here, and you don't know why they came here. Until we do know, dont make the assumption that they are refugess flleing North Koreaa. They MAY be that, but in the other hand that is a drug area. isn't it? North Korean DIPLOMATS have been caught smuggling drugs before. Until we know what they are doing here, don't be making assumptions on what they came here for. Maybe, since disguising a drug smuggling operation with 15 North Korean refugees is probably a brilliant way of flying 'under the radar' I agree with you I was wondering if it was another name coma used trying to get here and support himself when obviously no one else will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 (edited) Send them straight back to where they come from. If they want a better life then they, along with their fellow countryman, need to fight for one. Please find a big rock, preferably in your home country and stay under it. Also look up the word compassion Don't presume you know anything about me. Where my " home country" is or if I am currently living in it. I was wondering if you were even wanted there socially. Maybe the law but I don't see a big society wanting you. Not saying I know any thing about you other than you are unfeeling towards other people. The only way I knew that is you respond that way. Edited June 9, 2014 by northernjohn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 North Korea won't change until the people there force it to change. Because after all these years of NK insanity it has turned into a joke of a childish communist dictatorship, with no end in sight. Doc Blake You know nothing of the conditions in North Korea hence your mindless post. First you say that it is up to the people to do some thing about it. Then you say there is no end in sight. Why the out of the blue this ridicules comment on it? Do you think that the sanctions and the South Koreans being against them will not eventually break them. China is starting to pull away from them they are going to be a nation of One idiot democratically (I threw that in for all the people who think an election will solve all of Thailand's problems) elected leader and his army. In there desperation for recognition they are now threatening military actions. They are in no condition do over throw the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paz Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Don't presume you know anything about me. Where my " home country" is or if I am currently living in it. No need to presume anything to say that your posting are horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paz Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 North Koreans like these refugees would simply be eliminated in their home country but Thailand has and always will treat them as criminals, the Thais refuse to give them refugee status and treat them quite appalling in that horrible overcrowded immigration jail in Thung Mahemek Bangkok. The Thais are very nasty jailors with no compassion for foreigners, especially foreigners who cannot speak at least some Thai. Correct but actually money buys much compassion that command of Thai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RisingSun Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Send them straight back to where they come from. If they want a better life then they, along with their fellow countryman, need to fight for one. vile really vile post..your ignorance is outstanding this afternoon..you really should delete your post ... No! They are law breakers. Yes!!...as in you, were the lawmaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Send them straight back to where they come from. If they want a better life then they, along with their fellow countryman, need to fight for one.vile really vile post..your ignorance is outstanding this afternoon..you really should delete your post ... No! They are law breakers. Having been to North Korea, I can tell you that there is no way to fight that regime any more than those sent to the gulags could fight Stalin or the Jews could fight Hitler. It is a brutal place where neighbor must rat on neighbor. These people escaped a brutal regime and managed to cross thousands of miles of hostile China. Law breakers they are not. I have also been to North Korea. You have no evidence for your 'brutal' or 'neighbor must rat on neighbor' claims. Did your guides tell you this? Did you see people dragged away on the streets? No, you didn't. What you chose to see in Pyongyang, Kaesong, Myohyang, etc. was what you wanted it to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puuchaibaa Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script>Having been to North Korea, I can tell you that there is no way to fight that regime any more than those sent to the gulags could fight Stalin or the Jews could fight Hitler. It is a brutal place where neighbor must rat on neighbor. These people escaped a brutal regime and managed to cross thousands of miles of hostile China. Law breakers they are not. I have also been to North Korea. You have no evidence for your 'brutal' or 'neighbor must rat on neighbor' claims. Did your guides tell you this? Did you see people dragged away on the streets? No, you didn't. What you chose to see in Pyongyang, Kaesong, Myohyang, etc. was what you wanted it to be. Baboon, you're kidding, right? Guides giving that kind of information wouldn't live long enough to tell the next tour group. And btw it's not just neighbors -- children are taught from a very young age to rat on their very own parents. Anyway, what you saw in NK was strictly what His Kind Leader wanted you to see. Don't be another Rodman please! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puuchaibaa Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I don't know why they came here, and you don't know why they came here. Until we do know, dont make the assumption that they are refugess flleing North Koreaa. They MAY be that, but in the other hand that is a drug area. isn't it? North Korean DIPLOMATS have been caught smuggling drugs before. Until we know what they are doing here, don't be making assumptions on what they came here for. At last somebody not living in a bubble word and not blinded by having one's head stuck in the clouds. Yes, Coma, Farang is right. No one knows for sure. But then, no one else here claimed they knew for sure either. Most here were just disgusted that you could have such a callous attitude towards people from NK, irrespective of whether this group is what they claim to be. These are separate issues. Anyway, you obviously are not aware of the situation in NK whatsoever so do yourself a favour and do the bit of research that was kindly suggested to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coma Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Send them straight back to where they come from. If they want a better life then they, along with their fellow countryman, need to fight for one. vile really vile post..your ignorance is outstanding this afternoon..you really should delete your post ... No! They are law breakers. Having been to North Korea, I can tell you that there is no way to fight that regime any more than those sent to the gulags could fight Stalin or the Jews could fight Hitler. It is a brutal place where neighbor must rat on neighbor. These people escaped a brutal regime and managed to cross thousands of miles of hostile China. Law breakers they are not. Please could you be kind enough to tell me more about your experiences in Nth Korea. Particularly on how you came to know of its brutality and how it has neighbour pitted against neighbour. I cast serious shadows of doubts over your apparent factual knowledge of these claims. Foreigners are watched like hawks and see ONLY what the regime's authorities allow them to see. And it is NOT going out, mixing it up with the local populace. And they have broken Thai law and therefore were arrested by authorities. And they have also broken laws in every country that they ILLEGALLY entered and exited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 (edited) Thailand is not signatory to the UN Conventions for Refugees, but are signatories to the UN Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment. If returned, they will be subject to conditions in breach of Thailand's obligations under international law. So from a legal POV it is not appropriate to return the group to N.Korea, no matter their reason for entering Thai territory. It is well documented they will suffer extreme punishment by the State. Review of the applicable international law in relation to North Korean escapees is at: http://www.brookings.edu/research/opinions/2010/09/north-korea-human-rights-cohen Edited June 10, 2014 by simple1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captspectre Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Hoping they don't hand them back to NK like they did with the Hmong back to Laos where they were never seen again. send them to south korea, that's where they were heading in the first place! if the Thai's send them back they will be executed along with their families! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomross46 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 The United States has been looking down at Thailand for it treatment of Illegal Aliens. The Department of Homeland Security in the United States has established a process. Northwest Arkansas News-Jun 8, 2014Share PHOENIX -- Angry about the federal government sending illegal aliens from Texas to Arizona, state officials say they are rushing federal supplies to a makeshift holding center in the southern part of Arizona that's housing hundreds of children and is running low on the basics. Gov. Jan Brewer's spokesman . They are taking Illegal Alien children and shipping them from Texas to Arizona, and housing then in the desert in unacceptable conditions with little or no food. The governor of Arizona is doing every thing possible to help these children, but the federal government is doing very little. They have also started shipping these people through the USA. Is is Human Trafficking, which is a crime against humanity? DO NOT FOLLOW THE EXAMPLE OF THE USA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paz Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Please could you be kind enough to tell me more about your experiences in Nth Korea. Particularly on how you came to know of its brutality and how it has neighbour pitted against neighbour. I cast serious shadows of doubts over your apparent factual knowledge of these claims. Foreigners are watched like hawks and see ONLY what the regime's authorities allow them to see. And it is NOT going out, mixing it up with the local populace. And they have broken Thai law and therefore were arrested by authorities. And they have also broken laws in every country that they ILLEGALLY entered and exited. Reasoning with people like you is useless. Welcome to ignore list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coma Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Please could you be kind enough to tell me more about your experiences in Nth Korea. Particularly on how you came to know of its brutality and how it has neighbour pitted against neighbour. I cast serious shadows of doubts over your apparent factual knowledge of these claims. Foreigners are watched like hawks and see ONLY what the regime's authorities allow them to see. And it is NOT going out, mixing it up with the local populace. And they have broken Thai law and therefore were arrested by authorities. And they have also broken laws in every country that they ILLEGALLY entered and exited. Reasoning with people like you is useless. Welcome to ignore list. Ignore list ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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