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Two Thai universities in Asian higher |education rankings
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- King Mongkut's University of Technology Thonburi (KMUTT) is now ranked among Asia's 50 best universities, according to the Times Higher Education rankings.

KMUTT climbed five places to secure 50th spot on the Asia University Rankings 2014, which was released by Times Higher Education last Thursday.

It is first time a Thai institute has made it into the top 50 in Asia.

The second best-ranked Thai university is Mahidol University (MU), which plummeted 21 places to 82 this year.

Chulalongkorn University (CU), meanwhile, has slipped out of the top 100 rankings. Last year, it placed 82nd.

"There were mixed fortunes for Thailand this year," Phil Baty, co-ordinator of the Times Higher Education rankings, said.

He said the latest rankings might serve to nudge Thailand into understanding that it needs to work harder to compete in the global market place for education.

According to him, MU's scores are broadly similar to last year, with no significant change. In the 2013 rankings, MU's overall score stood at 28.7. This year, its score dropped only slightly to 26.7.

Baty told The Nation that CU now sits just outside of the Asia top 100.

He disclosed that KMUTT had improved its score for citations since 2013, meaning that its academic papers are being used more frequently outside Thailand. In time, this is likely to have a positive impact on KMUTT's score for reputation, with the academic community being more aware of the university and its work.

The total score for KMUTT this year stood at 33.0, up from 30.3 last year.

"To have a university in the top 50 in this highly competitive global market place is extremely impressive," Baty said.

According to him, high performing countries and regions are pumping money into their higher education systems, forging alliances with their global neighbours and encouraging internationalisation. All of these things are crucial factors in achieving a high ranking.

On top of the Asia University Rankings 2014 this year is Japan's University of Tokyo. Coming next in the second and third spots respectively are Singapore's National University of Singapore and Hong Kong's University of Hong Kong. The full list is available on www.thewur.com.

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-- The Nation 2014-06-23

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A skewed ranking system. KMUTT is not in the same league as Thamassat , Chula and AIT.

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Anything to do with education in Thailand would be mixed fortunes , some of these facility's are world class, but there is far too bigger gap between the upper class and the bottom rung , you are never going to have a educated work force which then flows onto social responsibility , while the status quo remains. coffee1.gif

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A skewed ranking system. KMUTT is not in the same league as Thamassat , Chula and AIT.

" its academic papers are being used more frequently outside Thailand."

I think that is one fairly good yardstick. If the university's graduates are publishing research that is accepted abroad, it means the standard is relatively high.

What's your idea of a good ranking system that would put Thamassat, Chula and AIT up there?

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A skewed ranking system. KMUTT is not in the same league as Thamassat , Chula and AIT.

Some years back the other newspaper printed one of it's regular articles on education and it was claimed that, at that time, around 25% of Chula's students were there because of who they were and ' other reasons' and not because of ability. It was claimed that if grades were the only criteria so many of them would not have gained admission.

I have no idea how the figures were arrived at but can certainly believe the general thrust of the article as that sort of thing is so prevalent here.

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A skewed ranking system. KMUTT is not in the same league as Thamassat , Chula and AIT.

" its academic papers are being used more frequently outside Thailand."

I think that is one fairly good yardstick. If the university's graduates are publishing research that is accepted abroad, it means the standard is relatively high.

What's your idea of a good ranking system that would put Thamassat, Chula and AIT up there?

I'm not sure what a good ranking system is. Even the ranking systems that rate US universities are flawed, because they focus on things like how many volumes are owned by the university libraries and how many publications are authored by the university professors. Probably the best indicator of the quality of a university are the employment statistics of its graduates. I recruit at all of these universities, and, based on my experience, the graduates of Thamassat, Chula and AIT are of higher quality than the graduates of KMUTT and KMITL. I'm not saying that KMUTT and KMITL are not good universities, it's just that the students coming out of those universities are not as well prepared for their professional careers as the graduates of Thamassat, Chula and AIT.

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And how many in the worlds top 100 ?

Silence .....

Frankly this means nothing. I would just settle for seeing higher quality in the community level universities.

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Before anyone gets all excited, know that there are *no* SE Asian universities other than Singaporean in the world top 100 (see link in article). The University of Tokyo, the top Asian school, comes in at #23 in world rankings. So, far down the list of Asian schools, which is mostly far down the list of world universities, is a Thai school. Congratulations for breaking into the top 50 Asian schools is misguided, somewhat like high fives after straggling in at the tail end of a long race hours behind all the able competitors. Thailand has a lot of human potential, but it is not being well-served by Thai education and a stubborn culture of "mai pen rai."

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A skewed ranking system. KMUTT is not in the same league as Thamassat , Chula and AIT.

No. It's in a far higher league by any measure. Research, graduate outcomes, employer recognition, international reputation.

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Thailand would probably the only country in the world with so many clueless,

seat wormer's, holders of a high uni degree that actually means nothing when

going out to work.....

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A skewed ranking system. KMUTT is not in the same league as Thamassat , Chula and AIT.

No. It's in a far higher league by any measure. Research, graduate outcomes, employer recognition, international reputation.

Lies, lies. and more lies says the mute to the blind man.

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