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I have certainly heard of informal tests where the immigration officer asks questions in Thai. Can't understand them and your extension will be denied...

How they propose to test me (I'm learning Mandarin Chinese) will be interesting :)

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I have certainly heard of informal tests where the immigration officer asks questions in Thai. Can't understand them and your extension will be denied...

How they propose to test me (I'm learning Mandarin Chinese) will be interesting smile.png

Ah! I asked about Thai. There may be different requirements/ procedures for foreign languages then. What I do know for sure is that a clamp down on Ed visa's is imminent following the clamp down on tourist visa's. The reason for this is that many people having problems with the tourist visa's are simply applying for Ed visa's now to try to get around the system. Naturally, a clamp down there is to follow and this has been confirmed y both my school here as well as an acquaintance I have at the Thai Embassy. As I said (and you said in a previous post), nothing to worry about if you are genuinely studying. It's just those abusing the system who need to worry and frankly, this country will be a much better place when cleaned :)

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I took the liberty of asking my school specifically about this yesterday after reading this topic. She flatly denied it and said there have so far been no official requests for this. However, she also stressed that things are changing very rapidly and that an informal interview any time you go for an extension / renewal by the officer could and probably will be applied. A very similar scenario to what davevi above suggested. Of course, if you are genuinely studying Thai, it is nothing to be concerned about. It is however, something to be concerned about by the many, many people who are abusing the system.

Well that's interesting....she's never heard of it ? Last extension time one of the immigration officers had a bit of a chat in Thai ...."sabai dee mai ? yuu thii nai ?', but this supposed test is a formal one with Ministry of Education. I'm really beginning to think the office girls have mixed me up with somebody else who is finishing their year course and needs to do this test in order to get a new visa. They wanted enough photos of me at the start of course for all the paperwork, for all the extensions, but last extension time (my 2nd) all those photos had gone ..."oh, we must have used them on somebody else" .. ? Huh ???

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Hello mike

I'm afraid it's not, see my last answers in my topic "crackdown on ED visas" A major school I joined apply now the 6 monthes tests.

I took the liberty of asking my school specifically about this yesterday after reading this topic. She flatly denied it and said there have so far been no official requests for this. However, she also stressed that things are changing very rapidly and that an informal interview any time you go for an extension / renewal by the officer could and probably will be applied. A very similar scenario to what davevi above suggested. Of course, if you are genuinely studying Thai, it is nothing to be concerned about. It is however, something to be concerned about by the many, many people who are abusing the system.

Well that's interesting....she's never heard of it ? Last extension time one of the immigration officers had a bit of a chat in Thai ...."sabai dee mai ? yuu thii nai ?', but this supposed test is a formal one with Ministry of Education. I'm really beginning to think the office girls have mixed me up with somebody else who is finishing their year course and needs to do this test in order to get a new visa. They wanted enough photos of me at the start of course for all the paperwork, for all the extensions, but last extension time (my 2nd) all those photos had gone ..."oh, we must have used them on somebody else" .. ? Huh ???

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I was just thinking-- I have had to take monthly "tests" at the Thai schools I have studied at. I think this is a requirement for the school to get approval from the Ministry of Education. The tests are silly easy, it's clearly just a formality we have to go through. The schools keep the tests, and do not return them to us. I assume such records need to be shown to the Ministry of Ed.

So that may be the case with the test that you said your school was saying you had to take.

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I was just thinking-- I have had to take monthly "tests" at the Thai schools I have studied at. I think this is a requirement for the school to get approval from the Ministry of Education. The tests are silly easy, it's clearly just a formality we have to go through. The schools keep the tests, and do not return them to us. I assume such records need to be shown to the Ministry of Ed.

So that may be the case with the test that you said your school was saying you had to take.

I noticed that the paperwork for my visa extension included attendance records and test scores, but we have n't done any tests so that was a figment of their imagination ! This test I'm supposed to do next month is at the Ministry of Ed, not at the school.

there does n't seem to be consistency though ...Frank78 says his school has 6 month tests, trigger571's school said they don't. (but we all know about consistency within the bureaucracy here, don't we).

Edit : after reading frank's other post, now I know Frank's school is the same as mine ...so that is 1 school does, and I that does n't

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I figure that the schools are supposed to show some evidence that tests are being taken to monitor progress. As for whether schools actually do that or not... I imagine the schools that really want to be legitimate probably require tests.

There is a silly-easy interview required at the Ministry of Education to assess your Thai language when you go to extend your visa after 1 year. It's almost insultingly simple, but I guess they want to keep it that way so that everyone passes. I have done it twice. It's just a formality, nobody takes it seriously. I incidentally took it along side a Japanese guy who clearly bombed it, he just didn't have a clue when he was asked, "Do you have any Thai friends?" and "Are you married?" He just started back blankly. The interviewer switched the question to, "What kind of Thai food do you like?" and he was able to list of a couple of popular menu items. The woman asking him the questions smiled, told him his Thai was wonderful, and he got approval to extend his visa for another year.

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I have never heard of such a thing, after all, you pay for the course so it is your problem if you learn something or no.

Obtaining an Ed visa is supposed to mean that you attend classes and gain knowledge of the Thai language or are you under the impression that you pay the visa fee then lie on a sunny beach for the rest of the time?

Everybody knows that the Ed visa system has been abused by many as a way to stay for an extended period in Thailand without having a tourist visa. Surely a test of Thai language competence isn't unfair, or is it?

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It seems some people are not aware that there are MOE offices in each province that deal with doing the paperwork needed for extensions.. Meaning those they say they did not have to do it for their extension or the school saying they new nothing about could be in a different part of the country.

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Sometimes I think the Immigration officers just have these little chats in Thai to pass the time. I had one when the officer was processing my retirement visa and he realized I could speak a bit of Thai. He asked how I spend my time. I answered that "tuk wan tham kwam saat baan, sak paa, riit paa, tham aahaan" then he started to look alarmed like maybe I was working without a work permit so I quickly added "samrap samee lee gaw rian paasa Thai" with a big smile.

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