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Tourist visa holders denied entry to Thailand and left stranded in Malaysia

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So for legit tourists is it still possible to enter with a 60 day Visa?

Only if the immigration officer is sane enough to believe that you can be a tourist for more than 30 days.

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As the news of this spreads, more and more people will likely put of trips here as the confusion reigns.

^I seriously doubt this.

What it will do however is stop these people that have exploited a system that was not strictly enforced as it should have been. I support it 100%. I am glad those multi visa runners were displaced. I doubt they will be let back in from the airport

Either you are a tourist occasionally or you live here with a retirement, Marriage or Work visa.

I expect more borders to follow suit soon.

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As the news of this spreads, more and more people will likely put of trips here as the confusion reigns.

^I seriously doubt this.

What it will do however is stop these people that have exploited a system that was not strictly enforced as it should have been. I support it 100%. I am glad those multi visa runners were displaced. I doubt they will be let back in from the airport

Either you are a tourist occasionally or you live here with a retirement, Marriage or Work visa.

I expect more borders to follow suit soon.

I hope you are correct - wouldn't fancy being in a tourist related business at the moment. I find it hard to understand why if the so called undesireables were such, how come the Embassy issued them a visa in the first place? The brakes should have been put on right there IMO.

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All of the foreigners who were denied entry had a previous history of multiple visa exempt entries or back to back tourist visas.

too obvious why they were denied entry.

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until they change the LAW to state that tourist can only stay so many days a year ..none of these people are breaking the law...so all the smart ass would do well to remember this.......you could be next Jack

it is immigrations job to catch illegal workers INSIDE thailand and arrest , blacklist then deport them ..........not at borders before they have enteredblink.png there is a declatation on the immigration card that you sign..that is how they get you INSIDE thailand

They are all breaking the law . . . they are not "tourists" if you are using the people denied entry in the article as an example . . . they are using the tourist visa to enable them to stay long term in Thailand . . . that is NOT the purpose of the tourist visa, and THAT is what they are cracking down on.

And no, it's immigration's job to stop undesirable or illegal people at the border before they get into Thailand, not just once within the borders.

The big issue is the Embassies and consulates issuing the VISAs, but then the border officials not honoring them for whatever reason. Some people surely were abusing the system, but that is not for the border officials to decide. Does the fine print of the VISA says the 30 day extension or further renewals is "subject to approval".

Thailand is no different from ANY other country (UK, USA, all of them) . . . a visa does NOT guarantee entry into the country, it's down to the individual immigration official's decision whether to allow it . . . same, same in every other country.

And yes, it IS for the border official to decide, same as every other country.

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i stop being suprised here years ago....whistling.gif ..buy a legal visa from a THAI consul (WHO HAVE THE POWER TO REFUSE) and then be refused entry at teh border...idiotic to say the least

It's again worth remembering that possession of a visa doesn't guarantee the holder admission to a country, it's the Immigration Officer at the Border that has the final say, this applies to most countries in the World, including the likes of the UK, the Schengen Area and the United States of America.

yeah, i agree with this. i had a nightmare trying to get my wife back into the UK after we went to Paris for a weekend last year. she had valid UK and Schengen visas too. took 15 minutes of talking before they would let us enter

Not sure if being delayed fifteen minutes would constitute a nightmare. I think the story relayed in the article is a bit more nightmare-like and if anything, speaks to the relative ease of your delay. These border agents have a job to do and take orders from higher ups. People have been abusing Thailand's lazy enforcement of their own standards. Unfortunately, as is usually the case, a few bad apples have spoiled it for the bunch. The bad apples being the "tourists" who are getting local jobs to perpetuate a permanent vacation and using border crossings like a merry-go-round. Additional abusers might include people under 50, not married to a Thai, legitimately retired and earning a pension in there mother country but are forced to get back to back tourist visas because no other option is available to them. I would have been forced to go that route myself but as I am only here on my first double entry visa, the way things are going, it may be my last. Obviously Thailand can make any rules they want, it is their country to do with as they please and I will always be a gracious visitor but in reality, retirement has nothing to do with one's age and everything to do with money in the bank. If this comment diverged slightly from the topic I apologize.

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How long must you stay out of the country for a tourist visa to not be classed as back-to-back. One day, one week, one month, several months?

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Don't be surprised in the future if they limit the land crossings to only members of ASEAN community and all others would have to gain entry via air.

They are serious (currently) about getting out the illegal riff-raff.

We, as an EX-PAT community have brought some of this on ourselves by not policing our own. If you know someone who is violating the VISA requirements - TURN THEM IN!!!!!!!!!!!

It's those folks who abuse the system and ruin it for the rest of the legitimate ex-pats!

Wow witty do not also to forget your 500 bhat reward you maybe can get a work permit and employ 4 Thais to rat on the abusers. just put an add in the local paper and your phone will start ringing with whistle blowers.

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How long must you stay out of the country for a tourist visa to not be classed as back-to-back. One day, one week, one month, several months?

Good Question.

Probably up to the imm officer.

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As the news of this spreads, more and more people will likely put of trips here as the confusion reigns.

^I seriously doubt this.

What it will do however is stop these people that have exploited a system that was not strictly enforced as it should have been. I support it 100%. I am glad those multi visa runners were displaced. I doubt they will be let back in from the airport

Either you are a tourist occasionally or you live here with a retirement, Marriage or Work visa.

I expect more borders to follow suit soon.

I hope you are correct - wouldn't fancy being in a tourist related business at the moment. I find it hard to understand why if the so called undesireables were such, how come the Embassy issued them a visa in the first place? The brakes should have been put on right there IMO.

Because issuing aka selling visa's makes money. Stamping them does not.

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i stop being suprised here years ago....whistling.gif ..buy a legal visa from a THAI consul (WHO HAVE THE POWER TO REFUSE) and then be refused entry at teh border...idiotic to say the least

Can happen in most countries. Just because you were issued and charged for a visa it does not guarantee you will be allowed to enter.

Sent from my GT-I9500 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

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