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I'm eagerly awaiting the day when Immigration change the rules ... Awaiting from where?


Right here in Bangkok

 

So you are wishing bad tidings on some the people who are maybe overly-glad to see bad tidings on the way things are going for some today but you are impervious.

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So you are wishing bad tidings on some the people who are maybe glad to see bad tidings on the way things are going today but you are impervious.

I've been told that there are some sentences in Thai that are impossible to translate or explain in a foreign language. Your above seem to be the same, but in "English".

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So you are wishing bad tidings on some the people who are maybe glad to see bad tidings on the way things are going today but you are impervious.

I've been told that there are some sentences in Thai that are impossible to translate or explain in a foreign language. Your above seem to be the same, but in "English".

 

Thank you.

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your physical whereabouts don't matter

Yes they do, you need a work permit.

 

Yes I suppose so.

If a person has a way of working, on-line freelancing, whatever that may be, he would have to be domicile somewhere.

That 'somewhere' may be entitled to income tax from those earnings.

It is hard enough keeping the sticky fingers of the country that issued your passport from dipping in.

 

I don't see why Thailand is obliged to permit everyone to settle, just those of its choosing.

Even an off-shore worker, on a 28/28 stint should be required to pay income tax if he resides here between work spells, without double taxation  of course.

 

 

 

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If so, the kind of people we're discussing here are more likely than not to simply move on. I guess LoS will eventually figure out whether that's a win or a loss for them.


You mean the same way LOS figured out who has right of way on a roundabout?

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Political situation ? Thailand is politically more stable today than it has been in years, 500k, 5 years stay hassle free for less than the Thai minimum wage of THB 300/day

If you read the posts from the on liners they are always spouting off they are doing well, flush with cash, so 500k "invested" shouldn't be problem

 

 

They may be doing well and be able to easily afford 500k; I'm not. Maybe in a few years. It's a good thing that the Elite card exists but I'm more likely to head to Cambodia or the Philippines while I work on improving my finances. I don't know how common my situation is, but I have met dozens of young online freelancers like myself in Thailand so it can't be very uncommon. Maybe 500k isn't an issue for many of them, IDK.

 

 

Wherever you go, your first criteria should be internet connectivity, stability and reliable electricity supply, no internet, no work. Can Cambodia/Laos/Veitnam/Burma provide this? It's bad enough in Thailand, I had a generator, ups box and two ISP's when I was 'working from home'. The Philippines? Don't know, but probably more stable than many SE asian countries. Hong Kong? Taiwan, S. Korea?. You could start a small company in Thailand, then you have the stupid 4 Thai employees rule, you could find a Thai registered company that you could pay to employ you, whilst undertaking your own work and perhaps doing something for them. The 500k option sounds best/ 100k per year/ 274 baht a day. Borrow the money from family/friends. If you are any good at what you do, then you should have no problem earning the funds, if you are not confident that you can do this, stay in your comfort zone at home.
 

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This is what interest me to.
Lets say you "work", example:
Building websites, Selling online 3D models made in 3D studio, Youtube partner (get paid by Google), Play games and get paid by doing so, Manager of some company who are not required to stay in the office, Sell on eBay (you sell at your home but decided to come to Thailand for 1-2 or more months) ...... and so on and so on.
So by this logic, as soon as you enter Thailand you are in violation of the law, or... ?
 
Can someone explain this to me and anyone who wish to know? smile.png
 
Edit:  I found out that you are not allowed to even wash your car or some other stupid "work" so by that logic , are you allowed even to carry bags from 7/11? You have to pay someone to carry for you?


Watchout Dino,even typing a post may be considered working,according to your source.Have to go,Immi are knocking on the door.
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The Thai Elite card doesn't permit one to work, right? It's a solution to stay long term with no questions asked, but not a solution to work online legally. 

 

You are allowed to play golf.

 

 

Perhaps a scan of the actual conditions of the Elite card would show that they actually assist you to get a work permit, if you need one.

 

 

A work permit for an online freelancer, the subject of this thread?

 

 

Perhaps a call to the Elite card offices would clarify that much better than the mis-informed opinions here ;)
 

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There are some stories how some people lost all money and then work in Thailand for few 100 thb just to buy food. No visa, no wp or other thing required by law.

Now talking on TV about all that. They can but other people cannot work ? Where is the difference? 

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I think there might be some confusion.  I was not referring to retirement visa requirements, but specifically about the "young and rich" category of under-50's who want to work online, but who have trouble with raising 500k for the Elite card -- assuming the Elite card actually satisfies their requirements in other ways -- which I have not investigated.
 

 

 

I'm sorry dude, but what in god's name makes you think that anyone working online is young and rich? I know of several people who work online which are neither necessarily young nor rich. Like in any business, most of these people simply make a living. It is few who make it to the riches. I really cannot understand your point.

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I think there might be some confusion.  I was not referring to retirement visa requirements, but specifically about the "young and rich" category of under-50's who want to work online, but who have trouble with raising 500k for the Elite card -- assuming the Elite card actually satisfies their requirements in other ways -- which I have not investigated.
 

 

I'm sorry dude, but what in god's name makes you think that anyone working online is young and rich? I know of several people who work online which are neither necessarily young nor rich. Like in any business, most of these people simply make a living. It is few who make it to the riches. I really cannot understand your point.

 

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This thread is based on a theoretical situation, following which there were various mentions of wealth.  Anyones situation is their own affair, but they should get the correct visa for their intended purpose of being here.

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Perhaps a call to the Elite card offices would clarify that much better than the mis-informed opinions here wink.png

 

 

Rhetorical question, if you didn't realise. I'm well aware that the Elite card can't get me a work permit for working online. As other posters wrote, it doesn't get me a work permit either, just hastens the paperwork.

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Perhaps a call to the Elite card offices would clarify that much better than the mis-informed opinions here wink.png

 

 

Rhetorical question, if you didn't realise. I'm well aware that the Elite card can't get me a work permit for working online. As other posters wrote, it doesn't get me a work permit either, just hastens the paperwork.

 

 

Glad you have the information straight from the Elite card offices rather than the mis-informed posters here.  Did they make any suggestion how you could resolve your situation?

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I'm eagerly awaiting the day when Immigration change the rules ... Awaiting from where?

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AND WHY???

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What's so difficult to get a valid permit to stay & live in Thailand??? ermm.gif 

 

 

There's quite a few situations where you remain a tax resident in your country of origin and cannot easily change that, no matter where you physically spend your time. Since all of the work is provided online, your physical whereabouts are of no importance to your clients - but your tax residency may be of great interest to your country of origin. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm still paying taxes back home.

 

It would make sense to move your tax residency to Thailand if it was your intention to settle here. That may not be the case for many who nevertheless spend extended periods of time in Thailand.

That's a problem with your country. With my country, if I live more than 180 days per year outside of it, I am a "tax foreigner" and don't pay taxes there.

 

However, if you live and work in Thailand, it really does not matter what your native country's law says (unless there is a double-taxation treaty): You work here so you pay taxes here. That's not difficult to understand, is it?

 

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"it really does not matter what your native country's law says".      Are you referring to the IRS?   If so I'd say it does matter.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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