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No more Thai visa runs: Immigration will not let visa runners return after Aug 12

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It's a crackdown on people who abuse the visa exempt system and tourist visas, that's all.

This is aimed at people who get tourist visas or just nip in and out every few months and end up staying here for a couple of years or more.

The line from Immigration yesterday was "you are a tourist for 30 days, no more" which is right IMO.

You can't keep on getting tourist visas just so you can stay in Thailand, it isn't the correct visa for that.

I'm on retirement extensions now...

But back in my tourist days, I'd sometimes make 3 or 4 visa-exempt entries to Thailand per year -- with each entry being 2-4 months apart and usually stays in country of 2-4 weeks, depending on the time of year.

I was absolutely a 100% legitimate tourist then, staying in hotels and always with confirmed air tickets back to my home country at arrival. But I kind of wonder how Immigration is going to respond to that kind of pattern now in this latest enforcement approach?

It certainly ought to be OK... But in the current environment, kind hard to know for certain -- at least until mid-August arrives and we see how things are handled at Suvarnabhumi airport.

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A lot of people are going to lose a lot. Including Thais. This is baby with bath water on steroids. Too inflexible and done too fast. It would be OK if there were now easier "real" visas, work permits, including legalization of online freelancing, etc. But there is not. On the condo market, no kidding, this is really bad for places like Pattaya. Cause and effect clearly not well considered on this one.

This won't even begin to get serious until they start doing at the international airports.

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Wonder what will happen to all those foreigners that are married, have children, but don't have enough money to get a Non-Imm visa based on marriage.

Will Immigration start splitting up families?

I hope so.

These guys should have thought about the correct visa before getting married and having kids.

A little forward planning/saving may have helped them here.

You hope that families are split up??

You are a dreadful person.

What about the kids losing their father.... their fault as well eh????

Your bitterness is unique and I m glad I don't think I have had to suffer meeting someone with your thought process.

Maybe one day we will see you back on here whining because your own category is being rinsed by the xenophobic Thai immigration.

My personal opinion is live and let live, these people are seldom terrible people whom probably do no harm to anyone, and you wish them a downfall??

More like Thailand needs rid of people like YOU!!!!

Cry me a river.

It's simple. Stop breaking the law and get a proper visa and then these people can live with their wife and kids.

If they don't get the correct visa, no mercy.

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Note to married people:

Going the legal route, getting a proper visa, extension, and or work permit is much cheaper than doing visa runs.

It's just not as much fun. sad.png

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Good news for all those "schools" that offer Education visas for foreigners who want to learn Thai, I expect. ;)

Next up: 90 day notifications. How long before the penalty for missing that starts getting serious?

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I assume the Out/In that takes place on a double or triple entry tourist visa will not fit the criteria for refusal

You're assuming incorrectly.

how do you know? has someone been turned away on the second or third entry of an existing visa?

Yes, read all about it here : http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/742573-tourist-visa-holders-denied-entry-to-thailand-and-left-stranded-in-malaysia/

Nobody on a tourist visa was allowed to cross the border - not sure on which entry they were on though but it did mention those on NON O type visas were all ok.

His comment about you can only be a tourist for 30 days seems to convey the thought process behind what's going on.

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Getting married and having a beautiful son is the best thing i ever did here, no more border runs and sweating on being let back in.

Back on topic i can see laos and Cambodia to start to become crowded as a lot of falang will find after being refused entry back here very hard to return to there own countries.

As long as you are following the legal route, no problem.

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I feel sorry for the guys who are going to get frozen out, esp the teachers. Thailand needs all the English teachers it can get, even if non-native, but whole WP is far too much work for too little reward. Will be interesting to see how this impacts demographics: finally us old farts will become even more attractive to the ladies who are in hunting mode. And this should really gut TAT estimates for number of tourists coming to Thailand. We could actually find out how many tourists do come here without the inflated numbers due to runners.

When jobs disappear for Thais in expat spots, classrooms suddenly lack teachers, and property values drop.... will Thailand then come up with reasonable work visa and long term resident standards?

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I assume the Out/In that takes place on a double or triple entry tourist visa will not fit the criteria for refusal

You're assuming incorrectly.

how do you know? has someone been turned away on the second or third entry of an existing visa?

Yes, read all about it here : http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/742573-tourist-visa-holders-denied-entry-to-thailand-and-left-stranded-in-malaysia/

Nobody on a tourist visa was allowed to cross the border - not sure on which entry they were on though but it did mention those on NON O type visas were all ok.

His comment about you can only be a tourist for 30 days seems to convey the thought process behind what's going on.

i read that and nowhere does it say that they were on anything other than the first entry of a new visa. so your assumption is no more valid than mine and you have no basis to claim mine is incorrect

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"condos will be selling for peanuts soon"

How many condos are owned by tourist visa runners? Zero.

I am not a visa runner anymore and i was thinking to buy something here in Thailand. Not anymore ... too much uncertainty here ... ok if you follow the rules then you are ok but what if they are changing the rules during the game?

I almost regret that i've burned my bridges to the country i was born coincidally but thinking again, nah that country is even worse then Thailand ...

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I'm on double entry tourist visa spending a week in Vietnam and arriving back to Thailand on 14th for second half of my visa.

Wonder how this will go. I don't have any back to back visas in my passport, and I don't have any visa exemptions. I do have multiple double entry tourist visas over many years. Visa was acquired from home country, not a border country in Asia.

you'll be fine. youre not doing an Out/In

That is wrong info.

He is doing an out/in just not an instant one... It says nothing about them clamping down only on instant turnaround entries, it said they are clamping down on EVERYONE with multiple visas in their passport from re-entering on a tourist visa.

So I would say he is NOT going to be OK.

Remember Sunday where many were refused entry with visas issued in KL?.... That wasn't an instant turnaround out/in situation, but they still got refused.... because they had other tourist visas in their passports.

I think at best he has a 50/50 chance of getting back in, and all down to the officer on the border at the time. You can't even ask immigration for advice because nothing is consistent, any day at any time they can just say NO at will.

If you actually read the article, they were only refused at the land border. They were instructed to go back to KL, buy an airline ticket and fly in. Therefore, all visa holders were ultimately NOT denied entry into Thailand.

Of course that will all change on Aug 12th when the new rules are also applied to those flying into Thailand.

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Post flaming others members removed, as well as a measured response.

7) Respect fellow members by posting in a civil manner: do not launch personal attacks, or be hateful or insulting towards other members, ie No flaming

This is an emotive issue, let's keep things civil.

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Well there are many recent reports by Thai visa that people have been refused entry even when they have traveled to Penang stayed there for a few days waiting for a visa, got the visa and still been refused entry, this process can take two or three days from what i can remember? I would not call them in- out straight turn around. Remeber we are in Thailand immediate to SOME thais can mean one week.

I'm on double entry tourist visa spending a week in Vietnam and arriving back to Thailand on 14th for second half of my visa.

Wonder how this will go. I don't have any back to back visas in my passport, and I don't have any visa exemptions. I do have multiple double entry tourist visas over many years. Visa was acquired from home country, not a border country in Asia.

you'll be fine. youre not doing an Out/In

How do you define Out/In though? I'll be in Vietnam for 7 days. Is Out/In about people who cross back the same day? 1 day? 3 days? 1 week?

I wish the immigration rules were clearer.

youre 7 days and using an airline. dont worry. they are targeting the same day folks and the back to back visas.

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I assume the Out/In that takes place on a double or triple entry tourist visa will not fit the criteria for refusal

You're assuming incorrectly.

how do you know? has someone been turned away on the second or third entry of an existing visa?

Let's all stop assuming / guessing. (all = incl appologists, whiners, know it alls)

Ask this question again after 12 august.

Maybe - just maybe, there will be an answer then.

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