webfact 78,931 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Family of Sevenoaks schoolgirls missing in Thailand make plea for information MISSING: Aleena ( r) and Ananya (l) Day, aged 6 and 11, have been missing in Thailand since June 1 SEVENOAKS: -- THE grandparents of two sisters who went missing and are believed to have been abducted while they were in Thailand 72 days ago are pleading for Sevenoaks holidaymakers to keep their eyes peeled for the girls. Aleena and Ananya Day, aged 6 and 11, arrived with their father in Pattaya on May 25 and spent several days visiting their 33-year-old mother, Onwarat Gamlem formerly known as both Wiganda Day and Onwarat Suphikunphong. missing seven oaks girlsThe alarm was raised when Mrs Gamlem failed to take the two girls to the airport on June 1 so that they could fly home with their father and there has been no sign of them since. An arrest warrant has been issued for Mrs Gamlem on suspicion of abducting her daughters. Grandmother Betty Day, who lives with her husband, son and granddaughters in Chipstead, told the Chronicle: Its been nine weeks and we still havent heard anything. My son, Robert, is still in Thailand searching for them. He has made so many enquiries hes doing everything he can think of. Its really very hard. His funds have run out so were helping to support him. He wont come home until hes got them back. Both children were born in Thailand but have been raised in Sevenoaks since their parents divorced in 2010. Mr Day was awarded full custody of his daughters and they visit their mother once a year. In new steps to try to trace them, billboards displaying photographs of Ananya known as Annie and Aleena, as well as wanted posters for their mother, have been attached to vehicles now being driven around paraded across the resort of Pattaya with a loudspeaker. Airlines serving Thai airports have also been alerted to prevent attempts to flee the country. The police think that Onwarats new husbands visa will soon run out hes from Norway, Mrs Day said. Nobody knows where he is either but there could be warrants for his arrest soon too when his visa runs out. She added: Both girls missed the end of the school term. Annie is starting at Trinity School in September. Theyve assured us her place is secure. We can only hope that shell be back by then. If anyone has family or friends there or theyre going on holiday to Thailand, please keep raising awareness. We all want the girls back home. In an online plea for information, the girls father said: They have missed so much birthdays, end of year outings, the end of primary school party and induction day at senior school. Someone out there must know something that will help the police with their inquiries. Everyone is working so hard to find them but to date there has been no breakthrough. My girls are my world and I miss them both very much. Sevenoaks Chronicle -- Samui Times 2014-08-12 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Basil B 11,518 Posted August 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2014 I was hoping they would have been found by now. Has this story been covered by the Thai language national press and TV? 4 Link to post Share on other sites
DrLom 480 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) I was hoping they would have been found by now. Has this story been covered by the Thai language national press and TV? I doubt by now they are very much 'missing in Thailand'. Edit: Also, they were not abducted; they were handed to mother by father for a visit. If she absconded with them, then that by definition is not abducting. The article needs to get its facts right before pouring out, as yet, still unknowns. Edited August 12, 2014 by DrLom Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Bluespunk 52,909 Posted August 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) If you abscond with children who are not in your parental custody surely that is abduction. Edited August 12, 2014 by Rimmer off topic nit picking 46 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Basil B 11,518 Posted August 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2014 If it is believed that the new husband has anything to do with this he could find himself barred from Thailand. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Thai at Heart 17,307 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 If it is believed that the new husband has anything to do with this he could find himself barred from Thailand. There is every chance he has no clue what is going on. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post curtklay 979 Posted August 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2014 If it is believed that the new husband has anything to do with this he could find himself barred from Thailand. Being barred from Thailand is not necessarily a bad thing. 6 Link to post Share on other sites
DrLom 480 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 If it is believed that the new husband has anything to do with this he could find himself barred from Thailand. Being barred from Thailand is not necessarily a bad thing. See ya! Link to post Share on other sites
DrLom 480 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 If you abscond with children who are not in your parental custody surely that is abduction. He shall have been awarded 'custody' for sure, but in Thailand parental responsibility is 50/50 and never intended to be devisive. If the children are in Thailand, then legally (and unfortunately, in this case), and in law, she has as much right to that parental responsibility. Thus, it is not abduction. As soon as he handed them into the 'parental care of mother', on a formal, even if ad hoc, basis, he handed parental responsibility for the time they are with her. If that time was not agreed on paper, in a contractual form, then the mother has done nothing wrong. (again, I re-iterate, unfortunately). Such issues are delicate matters where children are involved, and anybody should read this forum with severity at mind. Sort out the law, before you assume it works the way it does in your home country. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Basil B 11,518 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 If it is believed that the new husband has anything to do with this he could find himself barred from Thailand. There is every chance he has no clue what is going on. More to the point where his money is going... Somebody is financing the escapade, her, her family, or the new husband. Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Zeegator 298 Posted August 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2014 If you abscond with children who are not in your parental custody surely that is abduction. He shall have been awarded 'custody' for sure, but in Thailand parental responsibility is 50/50 and never intended to be devisive. If the children are in Thailand, then legally (and unfortunately, in this case), and in law, she has as much right to that parental responsibility. Thus, it is not abduction. As soon as he handed them into the 'parental care of mother', on a formal, even if ad hoc, basis, he handed parental responsibility for the time they are with her. If that time was not agreed on paper, in a contractual form, then the mother has done nothing wrong. (again, I re-iterate, unfortunately). Such issues are delicate matters where children are involved, and anybody should read this forum with severity at mind. Sort out the law, before you assume it works the way it does in your home country. You clearly have no idea what the background of this case is. Do some research and refrain from posting uninformed nonsense. 24 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Zeegator 298 Posted August 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2014 I was hoping they would have been found by now. Has this story been covered by the Thai language national press and TV? I doubt by now they are very much 'missing in Thailand'. Edit: Also, they were not abducted; they were handed to mother by father for a visit. If she absconded with them, then that by definition is not abducting. The article needs to get its facts right before pouring out, as yet, still unknowns. "The article needs to get its facts right before pouring out,..." As do you. 7 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Bluespunk 52,909 Posted August 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) If you abscond with children who are not in your parental custody surely that is abduction. He shall have been awarded 'custody' for sure, but in Thailand parental responsibility is 50/50 and never intended to be devisive. If the children are in Thailand, then legally (and unfortunately, in this case), and in law, she has as much right to that parental responsibility. Thus, it is not abduction. As soon as he handed them into the 'parental care of mother', on a formal, even if ad hoc, basis, he handed parental responsibility for the time they are with her. If that time was not agreed on paper, in a contractual form, then the mother has done nothing wrong. (again, I re-iterate, unfortunately). Such issues are delicate matters where children are involved, and anybody should read this forum with severity at mind. Sort out the law, before you assume it works the way it does in your home country. The visit was at the farther's discretion {he has sole custody, I believe]. There was a time limit on the visit. The mother ignored this and abducted the children. That is how it works everywhere I would think, the fact the police are looking for her to return the children to their father would indicate the law is on his side. Might not be me who wants to sort out their facts, eh. Edited August 12, 2014 by Bluespunk 8 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post douginbkk 50 Posted August 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2014 If you abscond with children who are not in your parental custody surely that is abduction.He shall have been awarded 'custody' for sure, but in Thailand parental responsibility is 50/50 and never intended to be devisive. If the children are in Thailand, then legally (and unfortunately, in this case), and in law, she has as much right to that parental responsibility. Thus, it is not abduction. As soon as he handed them into the 'parental care of mother', on a formal, even if ad hoc, basis, he handed parental responsibility for the time they are with her. If that time was not agreed on paper, in a contractual form, then the mother has done nothing wrong. (again, I re-iterate, unfortunately). Such issues are delicate matters where children are involved, and anybody should read this forum with severity at mind. Sort out the law, before you assume it works the way it does in your home country. You clearly have no idea what the background of this case is. Do some research and refrain from posting uninformed nonsense. The above is not correct. Many years ago I took my then girlfriend to the Thai family court and was awarded sole custody of our daughter. I can tell you that she has no legal right to access my daughter unless I say so. Nor does she have 50/50 parental responsibility any longer unless of course something were to happen to me. This case is now most likely an abduction case pure and simple. 19 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post djjamie 7,408 Posted August 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2014 I live in Thailand and have full custody of my first born. Because my ex and I were not married she automatically gained full custody of her and I am not even recognized as the father until we marry or go to court. We broke up and I went to court with a 2 tiered request. To be recognized as the father and to gain full custody which was granted. If I hand my child to her mother and she is not returned then it is kidnapping. Obviously the police here think that to due to the arrests warrant out on her. I commend him for the dedication and commitment he has made in trying to get his kids back. I empathize with him as it would rip my heart out if I was in the same predicament. I hope they are returned as soon as possible and the woman held to account. For a father to be granted full custody is apparently rare in Thailand so one can be assured there is a combination of her being an unfit mother and him being an exemplary father. Good luck. 15 Link to post Share on other sites
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