howto Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Well I'm *nix dumb. Time to seriously start the windoze to *nix migration. Went the the local bookstore at rangsit... - everything is in Thai. Swam in the bay... - many versions of the book offered. What is recommended. * of course i can and will DL the man file, * however I would choose to get a book or DL. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) Go here: http://www.linuxmint.com/download.php Download image, burn DVD, install, and use. Easy Read a little bit here: http://www.linux.org/forums/beginner-tutorials.53/ while you install. Edited August 13, 2014 by Morakot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpinx Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Assuming you have a working system at the moment I'd suggest you install some virtual machine system (maybe vmware) and run debian or a debian based OS on that while you learn the ropes. Debian has the best support of all linux distros -- both forums and irc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaimite Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) RTFM is for wimps Seriously I suggest you download some linux 'Live CD's and boot them up and see what you think. I am sure you will find it is not that hard to get stated and only if you really want to master the command line wil you need to start reading manuals. Booting from a Live CD will give you the option to experiment with Linux without there being any danger to your existing setup although it may be slow. For a windows user I would suggest Lubuntu or Mint or any of the other 'buntu flavours as being easy to get started, but others here wilhave their suggestions. Once you have a versiopn of Linux running then answers to specific questions can be found on the web. Once you have found a distr0 that you think you may like then either create a virtual machine or install it as a dual boot system and play away to your hearts content before fully migrating. Once you have a distro in mind many hee will offer guidance on how to install in a virtual machine or dual boot. However if you are determined to read up on Linux, PM me and I can probably provide you with a few ebooks that I have acquired over the years (but never actually read). edit If you have trouble sleeping and really want to read up before starting, then look at this free download https://ubuntu-manual.org/ Edited August 13, 2014 by thaimite 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSixpack Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) I'd go for something simple and newbie friendly, already Windows-like. Mint has been mentioned. http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=handy http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=zorin http://handylinux.org/ http://www.zorin-os.com/ With these, a lot is done for you already, docs are good on the sites, and you can easily figure everything out just going thru the menus. Linux issues, unless you're trying to use software normally Windows-only, generally fall into getting the wifi working, getting videos, music, and flash working, updating, getting new software packages, and getting your peripherals, notably the printer, working. If the peripherals are linux-friendly--and you can check at some linux sites or on the mfg's sites, google around--then you should have no problem. Edited August 13, 2014 by JSixpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoslim Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 install gentoo or arch linux, it will force you to learn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morakot Posted August 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2014 install gentoo or arch linux, it will force you to learn 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul944 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 There are many Linux distributions out there. It almost like religions, they all are supported by fanatics, extremists, believers and pragmatic users. Which distribution to choose I can not tell you. Just try one and if you don't like it try the next one. I have experience with Ubuntu and Fedora. Mint would be a good choice too I think. You probably want to be able to watch movies, access flash sites. Installing the necessary software for this is quite challenging on some Linux distributions, especially Debian. Which I would not recommend to an inexperienced Linux user. Most Linux distributions offer a run from USB stick image. If you have an empty USB stick, 2Gb would be fine, access to reasonable reliable and fast internet you can download http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora Boot from the USB stick and give it a try. If you can not manage to create a bootable USB stick or to boot from it you have to ask yourself if you really want to pain yourself with this. The problem with books about Linux is they already outdated before they leave the printer. I would stick to the documentation you can download and maybe use an e-reader to read it. https://ubuntu-manual.org/downloads http://docs.fedoraproject.org/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloggie Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Go to: https://www.edx.org/ and sign up for "Introduction to Linux" - course started August 1st so you are not that far behind. You can follow the course behind your own computer at any time you like - free of charge. Have fun! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howto Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 Wow, thanks for the replies... I did 'live boot' Mint-Debian-Gnome-Cinnimon back in 2011 [LMDEx64]. Was mostly impressed, especially compared to 1994 Red-Hat. I noted a couple of devices did not work. Every 'flavor' has a diff in command line structure. I do know how to use the command line. And all of u know I will have to use it, at some point. Anyway, thanks for all the replies, Your replies do open up several other issues. - VIRTUALIZATION Some of you mentioned virtualization. This is a topic for a new. thread. - INSTALL A DT ROUTER/FIREWALL This is a topic for a new thread. BTW, that 'Star Trek FacePalm' is priceless Anyway im gone now fer a'while. I'll be back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpinx Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Go to: https://www.edx.org/ and sign up for "Introduction to Linux" - course started August 1st so you are not that far behind. You can follow the course behind your own computer at any time you like - free of charge. Have fun! Good enough idea, but very broad brush. Shame the website for linux is so riddled with third-party scripts that it requires an insecure browser....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCor Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Go to: https://www.edx.org/ and sign up for "Introduction to Linux" - course started August 1st so you are not that far behind. You can follow the course behind your own computer at any time you like - free of charge. Have fun! I decided to audit that course. It felt like they took a shotgun to what once may have been cohesive training material. It's certainly not for beginners, not comprehensive and comes across feeling like a recruitment tool. I would rate it a 2 out of 5. I wouldn't recommend it unless you're already familiar with Linux and are looking for a certificate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howto Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 Thanks again, @RichCor I also scoped that free course, thought the same. So Mint will be re-tested, just which one and which desktop Linux Mint 17 Qiana Cinnamon Edition *Linux Mint 17 is based on Ubuntu 14.04 ^^ I DL'ed this, will toss it on the Flash this weekend. Linux Mint 17 Qiana MATE Edition Linux Mint 17 Qiana KDE Edition Linux Mint 17 Qiana Xfce Edition I also noted... Qiana “v2″ ISO respins This article was posted on: Sun, 29 Jun 2014 11:55:05 +0000 The ISO images for the Cinnamon and MATE editions of Linux Mint 17 “Qiana” were updated and labelled “v2″. All the links were updated on the website and in the announcements to point to the new ISOs. If you’re already running Linux Mint 17, you don’t need to reinstall. The new ISO images provide fixes [...] Read more I also noted this thread... Linux Mint high power consumption? http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/750403-linux-mint-high-power-consumption/ I think I should start a thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSixpack Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Good review of newbie-friendly HandyLinux here: http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2014/08/handylinux-16-sample-of-what-you-can.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dharmabm Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Personally, I'm not a big fan of any 'just like windows' distros for Linux newbies... If you want to take the jump you need to be willing to get your hands a little dirty try lubuntu, mint or if you really want the experience, crunchbang or archbang. All can be run from livecd or a virtual machine, and will quickly give you a taste for what to expect. Come over from the dark side and see what freedom really means! Sent from my SlimKat OnePlus using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpinx Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Personally, I'm not a big fan of any 'just like windows' distros for Linux newbies... If you want to take the jump you need to be willing to get your hands a little dirty try lubuntu, mint or if you really want the experience, crunchbang or archbang. All can be run from livecd or a virtual machine, and will quickly give you a taste for what to expect. Come over from the dark side and see what freedom really means! Sent from my SlimKat OnePlus using Tapatalk I appreciate your sentiments, but there's no need to make life too difficult. Debian is the basis of so many distros and has such a good support system that I recommend it as a starter for anyone wanting to make the break from windows. Run it in a vm and see how you get on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howto Posted August 21, 2014 Author Share Posted August 21, 2014 (edited) Weird, could not get Mint Deb 16 to run off the thumb. Same thumb I used before. Sumptin 'bout 'non-contigious' memory'. I need a dvd and burn it. The previous Mint Deb 16 did not - work with the Realtek NIC - the HDMI did not work. Thanks for the link JSixpack, was interesting. dharmabm, I've been geek for 30+ years, At 60, really I've not the time nor inclination to re-geek and do *nix (on your level). 20 years in Thailand, 3 children, DVT resulting in 4 PE's, Flood, 3 million in damage, snake-bite [russell's viper] resulting in an "Ischemic event", which paralyzed my leg for 3 months, plus just getting older, I guess can do that to one. I'm not the work-alcoholic I once was. I want to follow the KISS method, for a while, and I know there is very likely - the 10 most commonly used 'command line commands'. I just don't know what those are. Hey, thanks very much for your help. jpinx, thanks, I don't have hardware to run a vm in. Guy's, got a list for the 10 most used command line stuff? Edited August 21, 2014 by howto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpinx Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Weird, could not get Mint Deb 16 to run off the thumb. Same thumb I used before. Sumptin 'bout 'non-contigious' memory'. I need a dvd and burn it. The previous Mint Deb 16 did not - work with the Realtek NIC - the HDMI did not work. Thanks for the link JSixpack, was interesting. dharmabm, I've been geek for 30+ years, At 60, really I've not the time nor inclination to re-geek and do *nix (on your level). 20 years in Thailand, 3 children, DVT, Flood, snake-bite, plus just getting older, I guess can do that to one. I'm not the work-alcoholic I once was. I want to follow the KISS method, for a while, and I know there is very likely - the 10 most commonly used 'command line commands'. I just don't know what those are. Hey, thanks very much for your help. jpinx, thanks, I don't have hardware to run a vm in. Guy's, got a list for the 10 most used command line stuff? You don't need "hardware" it's a virtual machine You install vmware on your windows machine and run debian inside that. Peripherals will work same as they do for windows. Read the vmware instructions, they're pretty clear. Command line stuff depends on what you are trying to do. You can google any of the many command line guides and select a category of your preferences. If you have ever used command line in windows then you're already familiar with the concepts. You can find the man pages online if you want a preamble. Also - learn about irc -- that's where you will get the best help and support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crabdog Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 There's nothing difficult about using Ubuntu or Mint. Make a bootable USB drive or if that proves too much for you burn an ISO onto dvd. Running from a USB flashdrive is much faster than running from dvd however so I would recommend that. As for hardware compatability, I have tried and tested a shltload of different distros on my 3 desktop computers and my DELL laptop. Have not had any hardware or driver issues on ANY of them. I still use Windows 8.1 as my daily driver because of the fact that I play a lot of games. If you're not a serious gamer and do not need to use any specialized software then Linux has everything you need. Here are some of my recommendations for people new to Linux. I have used all of these with no issues whatsoever: Zorin OS Ubuntu (Lubuntu, Xubuntu) Mint (Cinnamon is my preferred DE) Voyager Elementary PCLinuxOS Manjaro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howto Posted August 22, 2014 Author Share Posted August 22, 2014 Thanks for the info jpinx and crabdog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSixpack Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Personally, I'm not a big fan of any 'just like windows' distros for Linux newbies... If you want to take the jump you need to be willing to get your hands a little dirty try lubuntu, mint or if you really want the experience, crunchbang or archbang. All can be run from livecd or a virtual machine, and will quickly give you a taste for what to expect. Come over from the dark side and see what freedom really means! Sent from my SlimKat OnePlus using Tapatalk http://www.techrepublic.com/article/can-we-please-stop-talking-about-the-linux-desktop/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumbFalang Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Go here: http://www.linuxmint.com/download.php Download image, burn DVD, install, and use. Easy Read a little bit here: http://www.linux.org/forums/beginner-tutorials.53/ while you install. Just wanted to say Thanks for posting this. You made it sound easy but I honestly didn't believe you. I was wrong. I downloaded the image, burned it to a DVD and I am now a proud Linux Newbie ;-) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siam2007 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 since many years I had hoped for an English-language course in BKK "Linux for beginners/Dummies/morons" but to no avail :-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSixpack Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Zorin is getting a lot of love these days. The black theme really looks good. http://linuxaria.com/recensioni/zorin-os-9-core-review-as-good-as-linux-mint-17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJazz Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) since many years I had hoped for an English-language course in BKK "Linux for beginners/Dummies/morons" but to no avail :-/ Go to: https://www.edx.org/ and sign up for "Introduction to Linux" - course started August 1st so you are not that far behind. You can follow the course behind your own computer at any time you like - free of charge. Have fun! I've started the above course and found it quite ok. You need some basic computer knowledge and some personal work is also useful. Each lesson (there are 18) takes me around 2 hours, including searching on Google each technical term I don't fully understand. I don't have any hope to become a professional Linux programmer but thanks to this course I now feel much more confident using Linux. Edited August 26, 2014 by JohnnyJazz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siam2007 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Thanks for your input Johnny Jazz, but those online Tutorings as well as books don't work for me. I need someone I can talk to and ask Hundreds of meaningful or silly questions.... usually when I try to teach myself with a book or an online course, it doesn't take longer than 5 minutes until I get stuck. whereas if I have a human being teaching me and explaining things, I learn very quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJazz Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 ^ I'm like you. A while ago I posted an offer in this forum to start a club where like minded people can meet and learn from each others. No reply so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKKdreaming Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 if you HAVE a working Windows running now WHY would you want to try Linux ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JohnnyJazz Posted August 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 27, 2014 (edited) if you HAVE a working Windows running now WHY would you want to try Linux ? It's called "evolution". Not everybody believe that the world was created by Bill Gates. Edited August 27, 2014 by JohnnyJazz 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpinx Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 ^ I'm like you. A while ago I posted an offer in this forum to start a club where like minded people can meet and learn from each others. No reply so far. A club of individualists is a bit of an oxymoron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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