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You know sometimes I read peoples responses about teaching, and I wonder ewhy some of you are teaching, really.....if its that much of a pain, DON'T TEACH.....

I've taught in Los Angeles, California for over 17 years, in the heart of the beast that is L.A., and love my job, love my students. I have taught in Korea in the 90's on a one year sabbatical, and loved it. In fact I wanted to live there....

No matter where you work/teach, you're going to have to deal with the bullcrap of the workplace, you're going to have to deal with the up's & down's of life, deal with it....No buddy ever promised any one of us a rose garden, life some times is a bitch...So when you have a beautiful moment, cherrish it, love it, and let your heart embellish in it......

You know there are some people who are not made out to teach, so move on, find something else to do, because if you don't, all you do is harm the kids...And for teaching in another country, I've said this before, "when in Rome, do as the Romans do"......adapt, change is a beautiful everyday part of life. Learn the customs, culture, way of life, and leave your hang ups and assumptions at home....

Teaching is wonderful & noble profession, but it takes a special person to do it well, and to enjoy it everyday....and.... I can't begin to think of how many times my students have lifted my spirit with a good morning, a happy smile, and funny story, an inquisitive question, or a learning experience. If you don't realize how blessed you are to teach, then don't teach....

By the, PeaceBlondie......can a guy like me with a teaching credential, and eventually 25 years of experience, & a masters degree get a quality position when I want to retire in 8 years?

Peace to all, & don't forget to live in the present, that's why they call it a gift!

Mayacan

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You know sometimes I read peoples responses about teaching, and I wonder ewhy some of you are teaching, really.....if its that much of a pain, DON'T TEACH.....

I've taught in Los Angeles, California for over 17 years, in the heart of the beast that is L.A., and love my job, love my students. I have taught in Korea in the 90's on a one year sabbatical, and loved it. In fact I wanted to live there....

No matter where you work/teach, you're going to have to deal with the bullcrap of the workplace, you're going to have to deal with the up's & down's of life, deal with it....No buddy ever promised any one of us a rose garden, life some times is a bitch...So when you have a beautiful moment, cherrish it, love it, and let your heart embellish in it......

You know there are some people who are not made out to teach, so move on, find something else to do, because if you don't, all you do is harm the kids...And for teaching in another country, I've said this before, "when in Rome, do as the Romans do"......adapt, change is a beautiful everyday part of life. Learn the customs, culture, way of life, and leave your hang ups and assumptions at home....

Teaching is wonderful & noble profession, but it takes a special person to do it well, and to enjoy it everyday....and.... I can't begin to think of how many times my students have lifted my spirit with a good morning, a happy smile, and funny story, an inquisitive question, or a learning experience. If you don't realize how blessed you are to teach, then don't teach....

By the, PeaceBlondie......can a guy like me with a teaching credential, and eventually 25 years of experience, & a masters degree get a quality position when I want to retire in 8 years?

Peace to all, & don't forget to live in the present, that's why they call it a gift!

Mayacan

All very nice and thoughtful, but a bit overly dramatic, don't you think? All we were doing was talking about training courses.

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Well, it may seem overdramatic for this one topic about training courses, but the professional career BA/MEd sort of teacher probably detects that some of my posts, and some of the other posters's comments, drip of pessimism. If you want to teach, and really enjoy it, you'll take the bullcrap along with the smiling faces and seeing those light bulbs go on inside the brains of some of the students. To me, no matter how hard I complain, teaching is personally rewarding.

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CMU and Text and Talk academy are the only 2 TEFL schools recognized by the Thai board of education. I’m not an English teacher but I work for a government university in my degreed field and know many of our foreign language staff, which have supplied me with this information so, I would suggest checking them out if you are going to take a TEFL course. Hope this helps we need good educated English teachers here not hacks that want to extend their vacations.

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We need good educated English teachers here not hacks that want to extend their vacations.

I hope you're willing to pay them a decent wage. If not, they'll probably move on like so many others to other countries that have higher wages and better benefits. Employers in Thailand are asking for: A recognised TEFL certificate, at least a bachelor's degree and experience (in many cases not necessary), and for this a teacher can expect to earn 25,000-40,000 baht per month. There is nothing wrong with asking for these qualifications, but they should be backed up with good pay. At these pay scales you are guaranteed a steady supply of hacks that 'want to extend their vacations.' It's a shame that so many teachers start out here, gain good experience after a few years, make a good impression on their students, and then move on to other pusuits or teach in other countries for more money. It is simply because most Thai employers are fine with that and don't mind taking on the next hack instead of increasing their pay. Sh#t, in some cases I'd even be ok with just 50 baht an hour more to keep me in a job. That's $1.30 an hour more.

Now I'm being overly dramatic. :o

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CMU and Text and Talk academy are the only 2 TEFL schools recognized by the Thai board of education.

What does this really mean?

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Chichester College (U.K.) sponsors a TEFL school in BKK with a convenient offering of courses and programs. I attended one such program two years ago to brush up on my teaching skills, and got my TEFL certificate to boot. I attended a weekend program which allowed me to continue my week-day teaching without interruption. The school offered professional instructors and small student-to-teacher ratio in the classes. I would recommend it without reservation. Click here for contact info.

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"CMU and Text and Talk academy are the only 2 TEFL schools recognized by the Thai board of education".

Means exactly what is says and some decent schools actually take it into consideration, I was just offering some possible useful help for anyone wanting to take a TEFL course. These schools also give you a real education and it is possible to not get a good or passing grade.

As far as the other comment about wages think about what I said

“We need good educated English teachers here not hacks that want to extend their vacations”.

That is why the wages are so low because there are many unqualified people willing to do the job for a low wage, if you can hire someone for 300B per hour why not your in business to make money not teach English. On the other hand there are jobs that pay between 500B and 1,200B per hour teaching English providing you have a masters or doctorate in certain fields teaching specific English. Just trying to give helpful information I’m not criticizing anyone or trying to hurt anyone’s feelings, but if I made a living teaching English I sure would be pissed that I had to compete with people that had no education.

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"CMU and Text and Talk academy are the only 2 TEFL schools recognized by the Thai board of education".

These schools also give you a real education and it is possible to not get a good or passing grade.

I received a real education at International House in London, and I'm sure many others have done similar with different schools in different locations.

What does a school need to do to become recognised by the Thai Board of Education and what exactly are the benefits? It it was particularly beneficial then I might expect other schools to register.

Edited by a269652

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CMU and Text and Talk academy are the only 2 TEFL schools recognized by the Thai board of education. I’m not an English teacher but I work for a government university in my degreed field and know many of our foreign language staff, which have supplied me with this information so, I would suggest checking them out if you are going to take a TEFL course. Hope this helps we need good educated English teachers here not hacks that want to extend their vacations.

CELTA and Trinity TESOL aren't recognized?

CMU? are you sure?

When I contacted Dr Mat at CMU's TEFL this is what he replied:

'...It was approved and accredited by a sitting of Chiang Mai University's academic board

and Chiang Mai University's President to be incorporated within the overall

curriculum offered at CMU...At the end of the successful completion of the program students receive a 120 hour TEFL Certificate fully accredited by Chiang Mai University and

signed by the university's president.'

No mention of recognized by anyone other than themselves.

As I understand it: 'Accredited' by the Thai board of education (Ministry of Education) means that your TEFL course's curriculum has been examined and approved by the MoE and added to an existing school licence.

Not that difficult and there are more than 2 TEFL schools in Thailand that are 'accredited'.

Edited by Loaded

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Loaded, I think Dr. Fisher's context was what was available in Chiang Mai.

There's now CELTA at ECC Chiang Mai and IH do one in Hang Dong Chiang Mai.

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CELTA and I think Trinity are automatically accepted/accredited and thus doesn't need to do so with the MoE here.......now whether the MoE is aware of this :o

Edited by kenkannif

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I’m just going to shut up and not post anything in English forums. I’m just trying to pass on useful information; I’m not looking to get anyone’s panties up in a bunch. I do have a little experience here and I have helped quite a few people get some nice jobs. When I am at work today I will take a walk down to the faculty of language and confirm what I have told you about Text and Talk and CMU. I have nothing to gain if you check these schools out it was just a suggestion based on what I was told by what I would consider a reliable source.

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