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Bullet Train to Pattaya?


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Unreal Construction going on in the Pattaya area..Thousands of Condos being built Pratamuk Hill---Jomtien--Pattaya--Banglamon you name it and a construction site is being built....

Not Sure where there going to find all the wealthy Thais that can afford a 2nd home on the Beach..Construction Prices are ofent in the 140,000 THB Sq Meter Range making this Expensive to say the least and mainly using Cheap foreign Labor...

Over dinner I heard the Bullet Train has been approved where you can commute to BKK in about an Hour or Vice Versus from BKK to the Beach making it easy to get here? Any truth to this and is this why the Explosion of Construction Projects taking place?

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Approved long ago mate. However, there is the question of money and routing. The money isn't approved. There are a lot of empty condo units. Don't be fooled by the amount of construction. Unless and until the 51-49 Thai to Farang ownership law is revoked there will remain new buildings hoping to capture an ever growing Farang demand. It isn't about rich Thai's. Thai's in general don't like farangs and many don't like Pattaya either.

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If they don't like Pattaya why the massive influx of Thai's on the weekends/public holidays ?

It's difficult to explain to some, but suffice to say if you knew the real Thai's with money you would also know they don't come to Pattaya. It's the lower income Thai's who come here and they come because it's cheap. Sure, there are a lot of poor people in this country so it looks like a "massive influx" but focus on the spending. Yes, I know Central Festival is crowded but just one time look at the number of people with actual shopping bags indicating they have bought something in one of the stores. You will be shocked. It's not the Philippines yet where they go to malls to cool off, but we are in fact approaching it.

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If they don't like Pattaya why the massive influx of Thai's on the weekends/public holidays ?

Why do you think Thais don't like Pattaya?

They don't care about all the beer bars/walking street but are more amused that some old Westerners walk hand in hand with a young prostitute.

Thais also uses prostitutes but do it behind closed doors so to speak, when done they are out of there.

A BKK Thai owns the house opposite mine and they comes sometimes in the weekends, sometimes not.

We spoke to some Thais at my sons school and they moved out from BKK and was very happy to have left BKK for good.

Really many well off BKK Thais have bought condos/houses either here or in Hua Hin, they got a big scare during the big flooding in BKK a couple of years back.

Real estate taxes in Thailand are very low so many just put a lot of their earnings in houses/condos.

The most expensive house in my village (app 25-30mill) have never been lived in but is owned by the same famliy. They pay the yearly maintenance fee (double as the house is located on 2 large plots) but nobody never saw them.

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The fast train will be not bullet, according to one of the newspapers last week it will go about 160km/h (100m/h). There are a number of lines being proposed for this train, and there is a big bucket of money to built them.

Whilst faster than the current train, it aint no bullet.

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In most tourist places, construction is in sane. A large portion of the the money going into building shop houses and condo's are used to white-wash the funds. It is as simple as that. This is also why the prices for new buildings or condos never go down. The ones "investing" really doesn't care about the return of the investments. But this is not only in Thailand. In many countries in Asia it's like that. wai.gifwai.gifwai.gif

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5555... There were two "definite" projects promised to happen starting December 2013.

#1- The bullet train

#2- An underpass that would run on Sukhumvit Pattaya Nua to Pattaya Tai

The estimated time was 16 months and would leave one lane open in either direction.

Can you imagine the nightmare that would have created?

The reasoning for underpass rather than overpass was "aesthetics."

I think the projects were to be headed by Basil Fawltey and Homer Simpson...

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There was talk of a monorail doing the route along 2nd road to Tops , left down onto beach road , left before walking st and back to second road.

I think the gentlemen from the songthaew and taxi committee put a stop to that.

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There was talk of a monorail doing the route along 2nd road to Tops , left down onto beach road , left before walking st and back to second road.

I think the gentlemen from the songthaew and taxi committee put a stop to that.

The monorail would never have worked from a practical position. The proposed route would have covered approcimately 7,000 meters.

Each station would require stairs and a short platform, requiring 10-15 meters of ground space on Beach Road, Pattaya Tai, Second Road, and Pattaya Klang, removing a lot of currently occupied land. Even if they put in 25 stations, they would be approximately 280 meters apart.. Following that plan, if you were on the ground midway between stations, you would have to walk 140 meters to a station, plus whatever walking distance you may have to walk at the departing station. Practically no Thais would choose to walk that distance if the had the availability of a songtaew at perhaps 1/3 to 1/5 the price that takes them door to door on that route.

Pattaya's year-round population is growing at an amazing rate. Estimates maintain that as of 2010 the number of people in Pattaya ranged between 275,000 to 500,000 depending on the season. Monorails, buses, trolleys are not what needs to be dressed. There is an ever-growing road shortage and that may not have a solution available. You can't build more roads where there is no land. Abd yet they keep building more and more condos and apartments within the same cramped zone because of the cheap money in Thailand these days. One day go boom!

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Bullet train? You sound like a man with a mission ! Is one and a half hours on the bus too long?

51% Thai Ownership of Thousands of Condos and many of these Thai work in BKK so why take a bus to your job if you live here..Bullet train would allow a Thai to Work in BKK and Live in Pattaya...If the Govt has already Voted on this train then when is the completion date and have the funds been set aside?

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