webfact Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Lawyer slams Phuket Freedom Beach land inquirySuthicha SiriratThe owner of the land, Eakachai Sae’iew (right) and lawyer Ake Srisamuth.PHUKET: -- A lawyer for the owners of the land next to Freedom Beach yesterday (August 19) slammed the Land Department for setting up a committee especially to examine the land titles, pointing out that the matter is already before the court.The lawyer, Ake Srisamuth, said, “This case is already with the court. If the Land Department sets up a committee to investigate the same matter, then what is going to happen if the committee disproves the chanote [land title] and the judge approves it?”Mr Ake said his client brought the two pieces of land in question before 1990 and had requested Chanote papers back then, offering tax records he paid to prove.But in 1997 the Land Department issued a ruling prohibiting the granting of a chanote for the land. By that time, however, the owner already had court approval to go ahead with the application.“In the past so many parties have been involved in this matter and the chanotes for the 65 rai have been scrutinized many, many times.“The land owner wanted to built a resort but has had to stop the project. Although he now has a chanote for these two plots, he will not be able to sell them. He is paying high interest and owes as much as B400 million.“If the 65 rai of ocean view land were put on the market today, it would be worth about B1 billion,” Mr Ake said.Source: http://www.thephuketnews.com/lawyer-slams-phuket-freedom-beach-land-inquiry-47954.php-- Phuket News 2014-08-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelepulse Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 How much could 65 rai of non chanote land cost back then? Reason I'm wondering is it seems owing 400 million seems a bit much, unless someone decided to loan him money at 3/ month on the land and he finally couldn't keep paying the vig. Seems everyone has a woeful tale to tell. BTW, the landowner must have been very young to have bought the land 24 years ago, as witnessed by his Halloween backpack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I think he fears there will be an irrevocable result before the court case ends. And that would prematurely end years of income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renaissanc Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 The Land Department of Phuket has been corrupt for many years. Maybe the Land Department officials wouldn't give the owner a legitimate chanote until the owner paid them what they wanted, but he didn't pay the officials. So he doesn't have a legal chanote when he should have. Maybe his situation is because of the corrupt Land Department. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Removed a post that quoted from another, unrelated topic, and the replies to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timewilltell Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 The land department have every right to set up a committee and maybe it will be used to provide evidence to the court for either side. In the end the Land a Department will do what the court tells them to do until the web of corruption descends again to twist and steal and impoverish people. I wish Thailand would grow up and start punishing the evil and corrupt and especially deal with the huge problem of money lenders for huge interest who use every trick in the book to grab money, followed closely by barring for life corrupt and inept lawyers with a useful rapid system of investigation to restore the rule if law here. Sent from my iPad using ThaiVisa app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeycountry Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 How much could 65 rai of non chanote land cost back then? Reason I'm wondering is it seems owing 400 million seems a bit much, unless someone decided to loan him money at 3/ month on the land and he finally couldn't keep paying the vig. Seems everyone has a woeful tale to tell. BTW, the landowner must have been very young to have bought the land 24 years ago, as witnessed by his Halloween backpack. Keep in mind how lawyers work here. Just because his client owes 400 million, it does not necessarily have anything to do with the 65 Rai land plot. His client likely has other businesses. Perhaps he bought something else with money he borrowed with the 65 rai plot as security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 He is just seeing his years and years in court go away now, since the decision will be reached out of court. So in stead of 10 more years being paid he has to find himself a new client now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelepulse Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 (edited) Interesting bit from the gazette. http://www.phuketgazette.net/phuket-news/Fight-begins-billionbaht-Phuket-land-Freedom-Beach/33608#ad-image-0 >>"Mr At did not elaborate on who might have targeted Mr Eakkachai for investigation, but did reveal that the land – which he estimated to have a value of “at least 1 billion baht” – had been used to secure a mortgage of 400 million baht." No wonder why he is sweating it out, owing 400 million with perhaps no way to pay it back. I wonder if it was a private loan or a bank loan? I'm thinking private loan or his lawyer would have said he owed 400 million to the bank. >>"The Land Department was tasked with investigating the alleged involvement of corrupt officials in its ranks (story here).The result of that investigation was not made public." There no wonder why the results were never published because the land department even admits " only a small percentage of chanotes have been issued illegally" by officials. Something stinks here. Edited August 21, 2014 by steelepulse 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimi007 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Interesting bit from the gazette. http://www.phuketgazette.net/phuket-news/Fight-begins-billionbaht-Phuket-land-Freedom-Beach/33608#ad-image-0 >>"Mr At did not elaborate on who might have targeted Mr Eakkachai for investigation, but did reveal that the land – which he estimated to have a value of “at least 1 billion baht” – had been used to secure a mortgage of 400 million baht." No wonder why he is sweating it out, owing 400 million with perhaps no way to pay it back. I wonder if it was a private loan or a bank loan? I'm thinking private loan or his lawyer would have said he owed 400 million to the bank. >>"The Land Department was tasked with investigating the alleged involvement of corrupt officials in its ranks (story here).The result of that investigation was not made public." There no wonder why the results were never published because the land department even admits " only a small percentage of chanotes have been issued illegally" by officials. Something stinks here. Nice! Get a 400 Million baht loan on land that is most likely government land… No problem! LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Yet another off topic troll post removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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