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Hat Yai: Co-pilot of budget airline passes out during flight and later dies

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And judging by the advertised recruitment on the Lion Air website, ex pats are taken on as captains. Their recruiting states that first officers and ab-initio are to be Indonesian citizens. Based on their ad, this pilot would be over 4000 hrs of pilot in command and in the left seat. The first officer obviously did what they were trained to do and land that bird alone, with the added stress of his partner incapacitated in his seat. I think for ANY pilot, this situation would be traumatic, but it shows that TRAINING kicked in and the man or woman at the controls in the right seat did what they practiced for.

I presume you meant Left hand seat. The Pilot who passed away was the 1st officer who was almost surely seated at the right hand seat. Guess just a type mistake on your side. Anyway good post from you!

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I just took it based on their recruitment that their captains are foreigners. In any event, it was that practice. Communicate, aviate, navigate....

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I just hope that all pilots adhere to their medical check schedule.

They do and they have to...

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I just hope that all pilots adhere to their medical check schedule.

They do and they have to...

It should be; "They do and they have to...." Reality is; "They should do and they have to...." There is some small Thai carriers flying in the present and past that come to mind! 1zgarz5.gif.pagespeed.ce.GJfs_tQOQ-.gif

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Avoiding an airline because a crew member died is illogical. People in all professions die and don't plan to do it while on the job.

I did service as a sugical scrub nurse while in the Army. During one procedure at Fort Polk, the patient was anesthetized and the surgeon had open the abdominal cavity for the procedure. The surgeon became faint and almost collapsed, only to be caught from falling by the circulating nurse and an observer. The doctor passed away later that day from a heart attack that he had suffered mid-procedure.

Budget airline or major international carrier employees live and die, just as we do. It has nothing to do with the reliability, safey or economics of the company.

Speaking of safety. Why do you suppose their is a pilot and co-pilot?

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Avoiding an airline because a crew member died is illogical. People in all professions die and don't plan to do it while on the job.

I did service as a sugical scrub nurse while in the Army. During one procedure at Fort Polk, the patient was anesthetized and the surgeon had open the abdominal cavity for the procedure. The surgeon became faint and almost collapsed, only to be caught from falling by the circulating nurse and an observer. The doctor passed away later that day from a heart attack that he had suffered mid-procedure.

Budget airline or major international carrier employees live and die, just as we do. It has nothing to do with the reliability, safey or economics of the company.

Speaking of safety. Why do you suppose their is a pilot and co-pilot?

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Hold on folks!

You can't blame Lion Air for this. The Co-pilot was only 41 years old, would have had all required health checks and just happened to die of a presumed HEART ATTACK..... thousands of people around the world do the same thing every day...without any warning.

I have no vested interest in LION AIR but come on, "fair suck of the Sav" (forgive the Aussie expression) but honestly, there is no way you can blame the carrier for this. The Skipper obviously did exactly what he should have done and all ended well...except for the poor Co-Pilot.

I agree.

It is irrational thinking, at best, to avoid an airline because someone dared to die on the job. I am not in control of anyone, least of all determining who can die, when they can die and where they can die.

If one avoids a budget carrier because of this incident, that is up to them. I suppose they should also avoid all large carriers that have experienced horrific events of late.

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I have an airline I wont fly on either.

I met a guy & his wife at White Beer'd a few weeks ago.

It was about 11:30pm, he was very drunk and flying to Samui at 8:30 am the following morning.

Crazy.

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WOW - maybe I will give Lion Airlines a big miss. I wonder how old was the co-pilot. Sad end to his flying career.

Seriously, do you know anything about the airline itself or you just typed something.blink.png Obviously such a fatality does not happen due to lack of safety of aircraft. happy.png

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WOW - maybe I will give Lion Airlines a big miss. I wonder how old was the co-pilot. Sad end to his flying career.

Seriously, do you know anything about the airline itself or you just typed something.blink.png Obviously such a fatality does not happen due to lack of safety of aircraft. happy.png

Exactly: VERY WELL SAID. Even worse is that this comment your refer to is made by a well known moderator.annoyed.gifannoyed.gif

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thanks God they have always two persons in the cockpit

Dream on if you think that there are always two pilots in the cockpit!

They most certainly will be for takeoff and approach and landing.

Can't believe the ignorance of some posters on this thread.

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Two people in the cockpit? These days they are talking about zero people in the cockpit. About as dumb as driverless cars.

Wow. So what happens when one of them has a heart attack?

Did you not read the original article? That.

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I just hope that all pilots adhere to their medical check schedule.

Pilots have NO choice about if/when they undergo medicals. It's rigidly controlled, and no medical certificate, no fly.

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You would never, for love nor money, get me on this airline.

I have an airline I wont fly on either.

I met a guy & his wife at White Beer'd a few weeks ago.

It was about 11:30pm, he was very drunk and flying to Samui at 8:30 am the following morning.

This was a very unfortunate incident and it has nothing to do with the quality of Lion Air : I have a good impression after having taken several of their flights in Thailand and in Indonesia.

from PERSONAL EXPERIENCE,, i do NOT advice anyone to use LION AIR,, unless they want to take a risk with their lives.

I flew from Bkk to HadYai a few week ago with them.

the take off was really shoddy!!! the pilot was NOT keeping the aircraft straight while accelerating to take off.. MOST SCARY !!!

and then LANDING WAS ONE OF THE WORST I HAVE EXPERIENCED IN 30+ years of Flying!! I must have flown more than 200 times in my life.. and TRUST ME... the pilots landing was AWFUL!!! he seemed like it was his first week of flying!!! definitely NOT experienced.

Later I googled Lion Air and saw their SHOCKING track record!!! basically they are a MEGA CHEAP AIRLINE... (the crappy chinese dragon style logo is 'give-away' sign of their chinese style managment and operation!!!)

it seems they dont train their pilots adequately enough. and this message is REPEATED by so many reviews.

the Airplane was spanking new... but the pilot was shocking!!!

about the dutch guy... I truly feel sorry for him and his family.

but its definitely Lion Airs responsibility to have Medical exams for their pilots.. and I HIGHLY DOUBT they have a proper full reliable exam on their pilots.

i will NEVER recommend to anyone to fly on Thai Lion Air, or Lion Air.

dont listen to anyone who says they are good !! (either they work for the airline, or they were lucky to get a passable Pilot, or they dont have enough flying experience to compare safety).

Also: just google Lion Air and see the complaints!!!

most people say that the Lion Air Customer Services NEVER REPLY TO ANY LETTER OR EMAIL !!!

just another example of how awful they are !!!

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@ Pedro01 - Please tell us what AIRLINE he worked for. its a bit of a tease to tell us a shock story and not give the final punchline.. Lol

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