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Hat Yai: Co-pilot of budget airline passes out during flight and later dies

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And something else:

The Ryanair (EU) had a plan to use flights with 1 pilot ...... Off course they can't, but they would. Crazy greedy people.

Just the Michael O'Leary publicity machine. They knew it isn't possible and no-one with half a brain cell would fly with a one-pilot commercial aircraft but gets them in the media. Same as saying they want to charge people £1 to use the toilet, having standing-only tickets etc.

They haven't been doing as well recently, unlike Easyjet or Norwegian Air, and instead of the "no-one likes us we don't care attitude" they were proud of they seem to be making some effort to turn their image around now.

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WOW - maybe I will give Lion Airlines a big miss. I wonder how old was the co-pilot. Sad end to his flying career.

At least he died doing what he liked to do. FLY RIP

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I have an airline I wont fly on either.

I met a guy & his wife at White Beer'd a few weeks ago.

It was about 11:30pm, he was very drunk and flying to Samui at 8:30 am the following morning.

Crazy.

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Completely legal in the USA. Have to refrain from drinking only 8 hours prior to your flight. Some airlines however require 12 hours but law only requires 8.

8 hrs from bottle to throttle, but also less then .004 blood alcohol. When the ops manual states 12 hrs, that is the law for each airline

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I'll say one thing for Thailand:

Based on its ample history of aviation (non)-regulation and safety, I wouldn't rely one whit on the Thai authorities to keep any particular airline in adherence to key safety standards. The past history with Thai Orient, the mangled investigation into the jet that exploded on the tarmac at Don Mueang years ago and other episodes more than prove that reality.

If any particular Thailand-based air carrier is operating safety, I'd say they're doing it because their corporate culture expects and demands it -- not because the government is enforcing it. So that leaves you with the individual airlines.

AFAIK, Thai Air Asia seems to have a much better safety record that Nok Air, at least in terms of crashes and mishaps. Thai Air's safety record isn't the best nor the worst compared to other international airlines, but given the way Thai Air is managed and the people managing it, I'd get the willies any time stepping onto one of their jets.

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4 unhelpful posts have been removed. No need for some members to start bickering. Further such posts will be removed.

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Interesting that so many posters jumped down my throat regarding my earlier comment that I wouldn't fly this airline.

I never mentioned anywhere this was because of this pilots heart attack. Please show me where I said that.

Had it ever dawned on any of you that I might be making this statement for another reason?

Of course it wouldn't of had anything to do with the dozen or so incidents they've been involved in over the last 10 years or so or the fact that they are presently blacklisted in the EU.

And to the Captain that thinks P2F is such a great thing, I'm wondering how many hours you had before moving from the RHS to the left? Most people here wouldn't have any clue what P2F even is nor would they understand the importance of having two experienced pilots in the cockpit verses one & someone who's paid for a so called short cut. There's many pilots that feel very strongly about the P2F schemes around the world and they have their reasons for this, I guess you have your reasons for disagreeing.

I wonder if the FO on this flight had stress because he was P2F (& obviously I don't know if he was) however if he was maybe he was struggling to keep food on his families table as a result of paying to work verses earning a wage? I guess we will never know.

I find it odd when pilots embrace a system that is playing a direct part in downgrading the job & the conditions of the job itself.....not to mention safety.

Anyway, as I said earlier, my comments had absolutely nothing to do with this poor pilot & his heart issue.

I wonder if the guy in the RHS would of had the same success if the guy in the LHS had become incapacitated ?

Anyway, it's interesting there's so many aviation experts on this forum, I wonder how many of them have flown anything bigger than an ultralight or Microsoft SIM ? 5555555

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You would never, for love nor money, get me on this airline.

Why? We can only speculate now. Maybe he was 45 and apparently in excellent health. Sometimes checkups may not reveal all.

The verdict on the airline will be known after the particulars of the incident are known.

On a second thought, you may be right. I am not sure if I will travel with Malaysian in the near future although I know that the fear is irrational.

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I have an airline I wont fly on either.

I met a guy & his wife at White Beer'd a few weeks ago.

It was about 11:30pm, he was very drunk and flying to Samui at 8:30 am the following morning.

Crazy.

Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand

Completely legal in the USA. Have to refrain from drinking only 8 hours prior to your flight. Some airlines however require 12 hours but law only requires 8.

Yeah, but also not under any effects........ And more than ever they are breath testing, gone are tho old days of slamming shooters at 8 hours to go.

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even the headline is worded in a way that presents this as something that happened because it was a "budget airline". There is nothing wrong with the concept of budget airlines who reduce costs by stripping out unecessary things from their business. That does not mean that safety should be compromised and there is nothing indicated in the reporting that suggest that it was in this case. Most of the airline disasters we read about seem to involve large national carriers rather than the budget airlines - granted this is partly because they have many more flights but I dont see the evidence that you are less safe on a budget flight than you are in a first class cabin of a major airline. Anyone can have a heart attack even weeks after a positive health check - it is luck of the draw.

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Besides having a pilot's license all pilots must have a medical, irregardless of which airline they fly for. To make remarks, solely based on the death of a pilot, that this somehow indicates that the airline he works for is not to be trusted is just ignorant.

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I have an airline I wont fly on either.

I met a guy & his wife at White Beer'd a few weeks ago.

It was about 11:30pm, he was very drunk and flying to Samui at 8:30 am the following morning.

Crazy.

Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand

Completely legal in the USA. Have to refrain from drinking only 8 hours prior to your flight. Some airlines however require 12 hours but law only requires 8.

Breath tests are given at random, fail and your flying days are over.

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WOW - maybe I will give Lion Airlines a big miss. I wonder how old was the co-pilot. Sad end to his flying career.

WOW,why would you do that,all is well except for CO PILOT who is more concerned about the end of his life bugger his career.

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I don't want to be picky, but two posters mentioned "from BKK".

Lion is operation from Don Mueang (DMK) only.

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