Lite Beer Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Scottish independence: Yes camp hails 'momentum'Supporters of Scottish independence claim they have the "big momentum" with less than two weeks to go before the referendum vote.It comes as a Sunday Times poll suggests the Yes camp has taken the lead for the first time.Some 51% of those who have made up their mind and intend to vote back an independent Scotland while 49% plan to vote no, the YouGov poll suggests.The Better Together campaign's Alistair Darling called it a "wake-up call".The poll of 1,084 people, carried out between 2 and 5 September, is the first and only serious study to put the Yes campaign ahead, and suggests the pro-Union camp has lost its lead - once regularly in the double-digits.On 18 September voters will be asked the Yes/No question: "Should Scotland be an independent country?"The headline poll results exclude undecided voters or those who plan not to vote.When they are included, 47% backed Yes while 45% said they would opt to stay in the UK. Read More: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-29096458 -- BBC 2014-09-07 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GentlemanJim Posted September 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2014 The yes campaign has a big following in the 16-18 yr old range (all eligible to vote of course), who have been fed too much Brave Heart and Rob Roy for their own good. I really hope people stop and think what they are doing, once the result of the vote is done there is no going back. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post soihok Posted September 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2014 What would new currency be called? Personally I think it would be a bad move for Scotland, but if they want to go for it all the best. At least the Bank of England could make some money on loans to the new government when it realises it can't make ends meet. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptHaddock Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I don't see how it could be bad for Scotland if they get to take the North Sea oil with them. They could be the next Norway. However, Scottish independence would consign the UK to the clutches of the Tories forever. Hard luck for the Brits in that case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post loppylugs1 Posted September 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2014 GREAT GREAT GREAT (For England) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loppylugs1 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I don't see how it could be bad for Scotland if they get to take the North Sea oil with them. They could be the next Norway. However, Scottish independence would consign the UK to the clutches of the Tories forever. Hard luck for the Brits in that case. Scotland's case for oil in the North Sea is debatable,the 70s brought up a deal it was for the UKs use,but I think the Shetland Islanders now will see a sizeable shift in their thinking. Was being suggested they too want their own referendum, interesting to see . But a superb result for England even if it did come by default No "hard luck" for the English either ,I always vote conservative 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 The yes campaign has a big following in the 16-18 yr old range (all eligible to vote of course), who have been fed too much Brave Heart and Rob Roy for their own good. I really hope people stop and think what they are doing, once the result of the vote is done there is no going back. What I find odd is there is no concrete answers from the NO or YES side regarding Scot currency, oil, and joint debt, just saber rattling for the electorate to listen too. Also the YES stating removal of "our" deterrent that has kept the union "safe" for decades. Hmmmm, perhaps the closure of nuclear power stations will be next......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post uptheos Posted September 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2014 The last debate had a big influence, Alistair Darling was absolutely hopeless. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 What happens if Scotland votes yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajyindee Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 The last debate had a big influence, Alistair Darling was absolutely hopeless. The ridiculously patronising TV ad put out by the Project Fear folk probably played a part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajyindee Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 What happens if Scotland votes yes? We go back to living in caves and eating our young. Apparently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 What happens if Scotland votes yes? We go back to living in caves and eating our young. Apparently. I mean how does it work? What's the transition plan? Timeframe? Is there a plan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post uptheos Posted September 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2014 What happens if Scotland votes yes? Braveheart becomes mandatory viewing. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajyindee Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 What happens if Scotland votes yes? We go back to living in caves and eating our young. Apparently. I mean how does it work? What's the transition plan? Timeframe? Is there a plan? Lots of answers online. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 What happens if Scotland votes yes? We go back to living in caves and eating our young. Apparently. I mean how does it work?What's the transition plan? Timeframe? Is there a plan? Lots of answers online. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky54 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Lots of answers online. Sounds they want all the benefits but don't want to pay for them, so they will still be a millstone around the neck of the UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 What would new currency be called? Personally I think it would be a bad move for Scotland, but if they want to go for it all the best. At least the Bank of England could make some money on loans to the new government when it realises it can't make ends meet. Here is a dedicated group to discuss that specific matter. if-scotland-votes-to-leave-is-the-pound-doomed . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I don't see how it could be bad for Scotland if they get to take the North Sea oil with them. They could be the next Norway. However, Scottish independence would consign the UK to the clutches of the Tories forever. Hard luck for the Brits in that case. Does Scotland owe any debt to the UK? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Pound would no longer be backed by north sea oil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soihok Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 What happens if Scotland votes yes? Braveheart becomes mandatory viewing. Yeah. Film star Mel Gibson William Wallace to offered the keys to the country, as long as he comes in costume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajyindee Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) Sounds they want all the benefits but don't want to pay for them, so they will still be a millstone around the neck of the UK Won't the UK have to change its name? Scotland is easy. What will the remainder be called? Maybe at the same time you could take the opportunity to do away with that awful national anthem in favour of something with a bit more oomph! about it. Edited September 7, 2014 by rajyindee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky54 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I don't see how it could be bad for Scotland if they get to take the North Sea oil with them. They could be the next Norway. However, Scottish independence would consign the UK to the clutches of the Tories forever. Hard luck for the Brits in that case. Does Scotland owe any debt to the UK? . Yes part of the national debt which they say they will negotiate about after, no detail though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky54 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I don't see how it could be bad for Scotland if they get to take the North Sea oil with them. They could be the next Norway. However, Scottish independence would consign the UK to the clutches of the Tories forever. Hard luck for the Brits in that case. Does Scotland owe any debt to the UK? . Yes part of the national debt which they say they will negotiate about after, no detail though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Sounds they want all the benefits but don't want to pay for them, so they will still be a millstone around the neck of the UK Won't the UK have to change its name? Scotland is easy. What will the remainder be called? Maybe at the same time you could take the opportunity to do away with that awful national anthem in favour of something with a bit more oomph! about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post uptheos Posted September 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2014 Sounds they want all the benefits but don't want to pay for them, so they will still be a millstone around the neck of the UK Won't the UK have to change its name? Scotland is easy. What will the remainder be called? Maybe at the same time you could take the opportunity to do away with that awful national anthem in favour of something with a bit more oomph! about it. Could change from Great Britain to Little Britain. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWMcMurray Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I'm not British or Scottish... So nothing in the game... But from my general life experience, I have found that those who are truly 'undecided', normally opt for the status quo Given this, unless the yes vote continues to grow more momentum, would put my money on this not passing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajyindee Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Just realised that they'll need a new flag as well. That'll cost a few bob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky54 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Pound would no longer be backed by north sea oil. How much of that is left though and what will the Scots do when it runs out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 There doesn't seem to be any detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajyindee Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) I'm not British or Scottish... So nothing in the game... But from my general life experience, I have found that those who are truly 'undecided', normally opt for the status quo Given this, unless the yes vote continues to grow more momentum, would put my money on this not passing The problem is persuading them to vote. That said, on the day, I still think it'll be around 52-48 in favour of the No option. Edited September 7, 2014 by rajyindee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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