MJP Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Pound would no longer be backed by north sea oil. How much of that is left though and what will the Scots do when it runs out? 30 years away. Find me a politician that thinks beyond the next polling day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I'm not British or Scottish... So nothing in the game... But from my general life experience, I have found that those who are truly 'undecided', normally opt for the status quo Given this, unless the yes vote continues to grow more momentum, would put my money on this not passing The problem is persuading them to vote. That said, on the day, I still think it'll be around 52-48 in favour of the No option. Today's polls show the yes vote leading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/04/scottish-independence-5-reasons-yes-winning-polls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Labour leader Ed Miliband has raised the prospect of guards lining the 95-mile English-Scottish border if there is a 'Yes' result in Scotland's independence referendum. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/scottish-independence/scottish-independence-ed-miliband-raises-prospect-of-guards-along-the-border-if-scotland-votes-yes-9716639.html They shall not pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soihok Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) Hadrian's Wall revisited. Passport control along the M6. Edited September 7, 2014 by soihok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Hadrian's Wall revisited. Passport control along the M6. Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richardathuahin Posted September 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2014 Well I don't really care. A yes vote would probably be for the best and then we could deport the likes of Brown or better still put him on the chain-gang to rebuild the wall 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 You all watch this. It'll be a yes but afterwards it'll be announced separation will be complete by 2045. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I don't see how it could be bad for Scotland if they get to take the North Sea oil with them. They could be the next Norway. However, Scottish independence would consign the UK to the clutches of the Tories forever. Hard luck for the Brits in that case. Scotland's case for oil in the North Sea is debatable,the 70s brought up a deal it was for the UKs use,but I think the Shetland Islanders now will see a sizeable shift in their thinking. Was being suggested they too want their own referendum, interesting to see . But a superb result for England even if it did come by default No "hard luck" for the English either ,I always vote conservative If the Shetlands went independent, they'd be richer than Qatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soihok Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Hadrian's Wall revisited. Passport control along the M6. Really? In jest as a reply to post 35# 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soihok Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 You all watch this. It'll be a yes but afterwards it'll be announced separation will be complete by 2045. Yes, more than likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MJP Posted September 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2014 Hadrian's Wall revisited. Passport control along the M6. Really? In jest as a reply to post 35# Not sure. We have no details. This whole Salmond ego trip is devoid of detail. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Labour leader Ed Miliband has raised the prospect of guards lining the 95-mile English-Scottish border if there is a 'Yes' result in Scotland's independence referendum. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/scottish-independence/scottish-independence-ed-miliband-raises-prospect-of-guards-along-the-border-if-scotland-votes-yes-9716639.html They shall not pass. I hope the guards do a better job than elsewhere, not that it would actually happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) Great news. Who cares what happens to England. We hate them and all they have done from tricking us into the Union, The Highland clearances, killing our Queen, Margaret Thantcher etc etc. I feel for the Welsh but. Maybe we could take them with us, Thatcher f****d them as well. Personally I don't think we should accept a share of their debt and to you English who say it's better for England - ha ha ha, you are screwed without us. Edited September 7, 2014 by Neeranam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Labour leader Ed Miliband has raised the prospect of guards lining the 95-mile English-Scottish border if there is a 'Yes' result in Scotland's independence referendum. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/scottish-independence/scottish-independence-ed-miliband-raises-prospect-of-guards-along-the-border-if-scotland-votes-yes-9716639.html They shall not pass. I hope the guards do a better job than elsewhere, not that it would actually happen. No problem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Great news. Who cares what happens to England. We hate them and all they have done from tricking us into the Union, The Highland clearances, killing our Queen, Margaret Thantcher etc etc. I feel for the Welsh but. Maybe we could take them with us, Thatcher f****d them as well. Personally I don't think we should accept a share of their debt and to you English who say it's better for England - ha ha ha, you are screwed without us. Be careful. We'll turn off the transboundry methadone pipeline. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Great news. Who cares what happens to England. We hate them and all they have done from tricking us into the Union, The Highland clearances, killing our Queen, Margaret Thantcher etc etc. I feel for the Welsh but. Maybe we could take them with us, Thatcher f****d them as well. Personally I don't think we should accept a share of their debt and to you English who say it's better for England - ha ha ha, you are screwed without us. Be careful. We'll turn off the transboundry methadone pipeline. You can keepy your bloody Bucky too - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/10540061/Benedictine-monks-urged-to-stop-selling-Buckfast-to-young-people.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Great news. Who cares what happens to England. We hate them and all they have done from tricking us into the Union, The Highland clearances, killing our Queen, Margaret Thantcher etc etc. I feel for the Welsh but. Maybe we could take them with us, Thatcher f****d them as well. Personally I don't think we should accept a share of their debt and to you English who say it's better for England - ha ha ha, you are screwed without us. Be careful. We'll turn off the transboundry methadone pipeline. You can keepy your bloody Bucky too - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/10540061/Benedictine-monks-urged-to-stop-selling-Buckfast-to-young-people.html We're sending George Galloway back to you. You'll find him inside a package marked 'Andy Murray'. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacky54 Posted September 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2014 The Scots have always been parasites on England, the sooner we dump them the better. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Neeranam Posted September 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2014 Great news. Who cares what happens to England. We hate them and all they have done from tricking us into the Union, The Highland clearances, killing our Queen, Margaret Thantcher etc etc. I feel for the Welsh but. Maybe we could take them with us, Thatcher f****d them as well. Personally I don't think we should accept a share of their debt and to you English who say it's better for England - ha ha ha, you are screwed without us. Be careful. We'll turn off the transboundry methadone pipeline. You can keepy your bloody Bucky too - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/10540061/Benedictine-monks-urged-to-stop-selling-Buckfast-to-young-people.html We're sending George Galloway back to you. You'll find him inside a package marked 'Andy Murray'. You'll have to wait another 70 years to get a Wimbledon Champion as Murray won't be British soon. England, the heart of a rabbit in the body of a lion, the jaws of a serpent, in an abode of popinjays. - Eustache Deschamps 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ldnguy Posted September 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2014 I don't see how it could be bad for Scotland if they get to take the North Sea oil with them. They could be the next Norway. However, Scottish independence would consign the UK to the clutches of the Tories forever. Hard luck for the Brits in that case. It would be good for England to have a Tory government, as that's what the majority there want. Split up the UK and let each individual country look after itself. There's too much animosity to make staying together worthwhile. English taxpayers give too much to Scotland and Wales, and all they do in return is complain that they want more. Independence for England. I really hope Scotland vote yes. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 The Scots have always been parasites on England, the sooner we dump them the better. England is not dumping us, we are dumping them. Poor trolling attempt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldnguy Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I'm not British or Scottish... So nothing in the game... But from my general life experience, I have found that those who are truly 'undecided', normally opt for the status quo Given this, unless the yes vote continues to grow more momentum, would put my money on this not passing More likely that the undecided won't vote at all so they won't have a say one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpinx Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 How can they question 1,000-odd people and call it representative in a population of 5 million-ish ? Pollsters are notoriously wrong, so I'll keep my powder dry till 18th As an aside -- I have never, ever met anyone who has been asked to take part in one of these polls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 A post with messed up quotes has been deleted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ldnguy Posted September 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2014 Labour leader Ed Miliband has raised the prospect of guards lining the 95-mile English-Scottish border if there is a 'Yes' result in Scotland's independence referendum. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/scottish-independence/scottish-independence-ed-miliband-raises-prospect-of-guards-along-the-border-if-scotland-votes-yes-9716639.html They shall not pass. Coming out with nonsense like this will just make people vote yes, so keep it up Ed. Labour Party already issued a statement denying what Ed said. They would have freedom of movement similar to the Irish. Shows that the No camp is getting scared because the result is getting too close for comfort. Shows how puerile some of our party leaders are. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I've a much better idea. Let's separate ourselves from London and the South East. Keep the Welsh and the Celtic English and the Jock brethren together and get rid of the vankars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawan Chan 7 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I've a much better idea. Let's separate ourselves from London and the South East. Keep the Welsh and the Celtic English and the Jock brethren together and get rid of the vankars. Rather insulting to call Scots "Jock", don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldnguy Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 How can they question 1,000-odd people and call it representative in a population of 5 million-ish ? Pollsters are notoriously wrong, so I'll keep my powder dry till 18th As an aside -- I have never, ever met anyone who has been asked to take part in one of these polls. If you choose a representative sample then all you need is about 1000 people. They results are usually accurate to +/-3%. Simple maths. Pollsters can be wrong but they are usually fairly accurate. No idea where you get 'notoriously wrong' from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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