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The cases mentioned above all concern arrivals at BKK airport. Can anyone report an incident whereby a foreign person on a non-immigrant Ed visa with a valid re-entry permit was denied entry at a land border after being out of the country for less than 30 days?

Incidentally, since about three weeks or so ago, the language school I am attending has started making us sign each day we attend to prove our attendance to immigration, who have been visiting the school on occasion. Pictures of us in class were also required. All good in my opinion as there are many absentee 'students' from what I can gather.

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You sound upset but I must admit that I side with immigration on this one. She came here to study but left for 2 months. Sounds like not real studying. Most legitimate schools don't give 2 month holidays in the first months.

Did she just have a visa or did she have a 1 year extension? If someone has 1 year extension, then they should be allowed back.

They are getting stricter with people abusing visas. If she was a legitimate student and here in Thailand for the purpose of studying, then I would feel more sympathetic but most people are using the ED visa to extend their long term stays in Thailand.

The country doesn't want long term tourists, they don't want people abusing the loopholes in the visa system to extend their holidays. You can work, you can invest, you can retire, you can be married (if you have money/job), you can study if you are really studying. Sounds reasonable to me.

Talking about people "abusing the loopholes", it seems the immigration officers don't mind having a go too.

Not too long ago I heard of a Filipino lady on a Ed Visa returning after a short trip home to the Philippines and being pulled aside by immigration officers at the airport and into an "interrogation room" to test her Thai language skills. After asking her the 3rd letter of the Thai alphabet and a few other basic Thai language questions they told her she cannot stay because she's obviously not learning Thai.

That was all fair enough and we've heard it many times before, but what happened next?.....She managed to "negotiate" her entry by paying 15,000 baht. They wanted 20K, but she managed to get it down to 15. She was told she will not gain entry on an Ed Visa again. She happens to have a Farang boyfriend (she was traveling alone on this occasion) whom she lives with in Pattaya, so that's probably why they decided to make a "monetary exception" in this case.

This surprised me in that I always believed that immigration at the airport was clean.

Of course this is all hearsay because I heard it from her Filipino friend, but I've known this friend for many years and believe the story is legit.

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Same thing happened to several Russian guys in Suvarnabhumi airport a couple of months ago: denied entry with ED visa (studying English or Thai; FYI: also not working in Thailand). They also had to fly back to their home country (as far as I know some of them returned on another kind of visa and/or entered Thailand via land border). As far as I know they all got the "Lack of funds on entry" stamp in their passports (one has to present 20k-40k Baht when arriving to Thailand; needless to say that they had money to present but it didn't matter):

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I also heard from my school a couple of months ago that it would not be possible to re-enter with the ED visa. But since then officers became less strict (several people with ED visa I know managed to return to Thailand), so people thought that it was a temporary problem which resolved by itself.

It is interesting what kind of note/stamp did your Vietnamese friend got in her passport.

Thank you for posting the stamp refusing entry into Thailand. It makes reference to Section 12 (2) (3) of the Immigration Act, the English translation of which reads as follows:

Section 12 : Aliens which fall into any of the following categories are excluded from entering into the
Kingdom :
...
2. Having no appropriate means of living following entrance into the Kingdom.
3. Having entered into the Kingdom to take occupation as a laborer or to take employment by
using physical without skills training or to work in violation of the Ministerial Regulations.
...
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Same thing happened to several Russian guys in Suvarnabhumi airport a couple of months ago: denied entry with ED visa (studying English or Thai; FYI: also not working in Thailand). They also had to fly back to their home country (as far as I know some of them returned on another kind of visa and/or entered Thailand via land border). As far as I know they all got the "Lack of funds on entry" stamp in their passports (one has to present 20k-40k Baht when arriving to Thailand; needless to say that they had money to present but it didn't matter):

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I also heard from my school a couple of months ago that it would not be possible to re-enter with the ED visa. But since then officers became less strict (several people with ED visa I know managed to return to Thailand), so people thought that it was a temporary problem which resolved by itself.

It is interesting what kind of note/stamp did your Vietnamese friend got in her passport.

Why didn't it matter that they were able to present 20k-40k? Just because they were Russian?

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Why didn't it matter that they were able to present 20k-40k? Just because they were Russian?

We can't know. Certain nationalities are selected more than others. Same as for any immigration or police force of the world.

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On the story about a lady from the Philippines unable to speak Thai, immigration should also fine the school for providing false attendance documentation to get continued 90 day extension.

Large language schools are making millions of baht per month on student enrollment but not large enough facilities or teachers for the student enrollment.

I heard this is also true of companies with illegal worker: small fine for company making the money and large fine to foreigner.

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You sound upset but I must admit that I side with immigration on this one. She came here to study but left for 2 months. Sounds like not real studying. Most legitimate schools don't give 2 month holidays in the first months.

Did she just have a visa or did she have a 1 year extension? If someone has 1 year extension, then they should be allowed back.

They are getting stricter with people abusing visas. If she was a legitimate student and here in Thailand for the purpose of studying, then I would feel more sympathetic but most people are using the ED visa to extend their long term stays in Thailand.

The country doesn't want long term tourists, they don't want people abusing the loopholes in the visa system to extend their holidays. You can work, you can invest, you can retire, you can be married (if you have money/job), you can study if you are really studying. Sounds reasonable to me.

Talking about people "abusing the loopholes", it seems the immigration officers don't mind having a go too.

Not too long ago I heard of a Filipino lady on a Ed Visa returning after a short trip home to the Philippines and being pulled aside by immigration officers at the airport and into an "interrogation room" to test her Thai language skills. After asking her the 3rd letter of the Thai alphabet and a few other basic Thai language questions they told her she cannot stay because she's obviously not learning Thai.

That was all fair enough and we've heard it many times before, but what happened next?.....She managed to "negotiate" her entry by paying 15,000 baht. They wanted 20K, but she managed to get it down to 15. She was told she will not gain entry on an Ed Visa again. She happens to have a Farang boyfriend (she was traveling alone on this occasion) whom she lives with in Pattaya, so that's probably why they decided to make a "monetary exception" in this case.

This surprised me in that I always believed that immigration at the airport was clean.

Of course this is all hearsay because I heard it from her Filipino friend, but I've known this friend for many years and believe the story is legit.

Show some proof then. Stories like this one is not true. If it really did happen, the people involved would not tell everyone or write about it on the internet Edited by larsjohnsson
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Show some proof then. Stories like this one is not true. If it really did happen, the people involved would not tell everyone or write about it on the internet

We're just having an informal discussion here about shit that happens so I really don't care if you believe me or not.

Others who have known me on here for 8 years will probably believe me as I've posted about what goes on in the Filipino community for years as my wife is Filipino. Both my wife and I know the lady who was held for interrogation at the airport, but sorry, I'm not about to post names and addresses.

Apart from that, is corruption within the ranks of Thai Immigration so hard for you to believe. If so, I suggest you take you head out of the sand.

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On the story about a lady from the Philippines unable to speak Thai, immigration should also fine the school for providing false attendance documentation to get continued 90 day extension.

Large language schools are making millions of baht per month on student enrollment but not large enough facilities or teachers for the student enrollment.

I heard this is also true of companies with illegal worker: small fine for company making the money and large fine to foreigner.

I agree. The Filipino lady in question was indeed guilty of utilizing the services of a "visa school", so it's not surprising she didn't know the 3rd letter of the Thai alphabet,

I do know this particular school has shut its doors already, if indeed they had doors to begin with.smile.png

It is going to be very hard to find Filipino maids from here on in.

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Since you know about the school, do you think immigration did any legal or monetary penalty?

If it was obviously only for visa and no classes then the students just loose their money they deserve it.

But the owner should pay fine double the money collected from students for providing false official document to immigration

I think many people complain about education visa not because of the small cost but most won't even attend 4 hours a week.

Very little asked and even less given.

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It's nothing new with this incident.

Every similar case comes to the same point ....permit permit...issued in Thailand.

There is no more permits to be sure to be allowed to come back to Thailand

There is one simple think to do ;

You want to stay longer in LOS ....GET YOUR VISA OUTSIDE THAILAND AND PAY FOR IT ! The best option is to get it in your home country and get all information in there.

I have done it in Australia , paid 1 year multi entry for $225 doll and used it without problem being twice outside and not after I returned to Australia I was asked at airport just when I am coming back...that's all.

Simply , I must earn some money to return and continue my "Passa Thai" before my visa run out. Probably I will even pay another year before I go to LOS to have no problems and I do not have to write in this site similar questions.coffee1.gif .

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Yes it would be nice! But i doubt it will happen one day sad.png Also good luck to all, just be aware that, never the less you have a valid visa you can be REJECTED at any kind of border, obviously depending of the country of your passport but also of what is already inside smile.png

Particularly if you're not white or are Russian.

Some ethnic groups have well and truly ground their welcome down to the bone in this country, when the overweening majority of any particular group are up to no good, then the honest minority suffer, just don't blame the hosts!

For the most part, I'm glad to hear the rapid fire 'thwack!' of the airport turnstile hitting planeloads of them on the arse on the way out for the last time!

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It's nothing new with this incident.

Every similar case comes to the same point ....permit permit...issued in Thailand.

There is no more permits to be sure to be allowed to come back to Thailand

There is one simple think to do ;

You want to stay longer in LOS ....GET YOUR VISA OUTSIDE THAILAND AND PAY FOR IT ! The best option is to get it in your home country and get all information in there.

I have done it in Australia , paid 1 year multi entry for $225 doll and used it without problem being twice outside and not after I returned to Australia I was asked at airport just when I am coming back...that's all.

Simply , I must earn some money to return and continue my "Passa Thai" before my visa run out. Probably I will even pay another year before I go to LOS to have no problems and I do not have to write in this site similar questions.coffee1.gif .

I think you are going to be in a world of shock on arrival mate, you better be very very sure of your specific rights of re-entry, multi-issue permits are the exact ones they are cracking down on.

Also, the OP and girlfriend did not say as much, but it seems they had been in and out the country enough times in recent times to trip the barrier switch, it may not be 'just', but or even rational, and it is annoying in a sense, because the lax approach of the authorities encouraged the situation to flourish as the norm for so long, that it became the norm! Of course, the General has spoken, and in a flash, the law is actually applied, throwing thousands of lives and plans into chaos. One wonders what will happen if they ever actually enact the laws against prostitution.

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I have heard rumors of certain nationalities being targeted in the crackdown as suspect of part of mafia in Pattaya.

While trying to find a language school to learn Thai(not visa), I heard the lady at Walen tell a person with a Russian passport that the school had reached its limit for Russian passports. The prospective student visa applicant said he will return with passport from another country.

I assume most countries have limits on number of visas per country? ( only America? )

I think you must have misunderstood something, nothing like that has ever happened at Walen School in Pattaya.

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The country doesn't want long term tourists, they don't want people abusing the loopholes in the visa system to extend their holidays. You can work, you can invest, you can retire, you can be married (if you have money/job), you can study if you are really studying. Sounds reasonable to me.

The country should be doing all it can to encourage long term tourists even if that means issuing new types of visas which makes it easier for people to stay for longer periods of time without having to do the stupid visa runs.

The numbers are going to be way down this year and this will have consequences which work their way throught the government right to the very top.

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On the story about a lady from the Philippines unable to speak Thai, immigration should also fine the school for providing false attendance documentation to get continued 90 day extension.

Large language schools are making millions of baht per month on student enrollment but not large enough facilities or teachers for the student enrollment.

I heard this is also true of companies with illegal worker: small fine for company making the money and large fine to foreigner.

I agree. The Filipino lady in question was indeed guilty of utilizing the services of a "visa school", so it's not surprising she didn't know the 3rd letter of the Thai alphabet,

I do know this particular school has shut its doors already, if indeed they had doors to begin with.smile.png

It is going to be very hard to find Filipino maids from here on in.

I spent 18 months in Thai Language school - and guess what.... if immigration asked me that I would not have known it either. I was never taught the alphabet in order, it was pronounciation, writing, grammer, etc. - but not the alphabet in order tongue.png (yes, it does cause problems if I try to look up words in a book based dictionary).

Even years ago, when I went to class I was required to sign attendance records etc. because that was what was the way it was done. The majority of their customers were people here on wp, and the price was higher than average... and the required hours per week before they would do a work permit was considerably higher than 4 hours.

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I have heard rumors of certain nationalities being targeted in the crackdown as suspect of part of mafia in Pattaya.

While trying to find a language school to learn Thai(not visa), I heard the lady at Walen tell a person with a Russian passport that the school had reached its limit for Russian passports. The prospective student visa applicant said he will return with passport from another country.

I assume most countries have limits on number of visas per country? ( only America? )

I think you must have misunderstood something, nothing like that has ever happened at Walen School in Pattaya.

Some people just like to make up the rumours themselves and go on to say.........Oh I heard this...........Oh I was told that

Clueless and brainless.

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The country doesn't want long term tourists, they don't want people abusing the loopholes in the visa system to extend their holidays. You can work, you can invest, you can retire, you can be married (if you have money/job), you can study if you are really studying. Sounds reasonable to me.

The country should be doing all it can to encourage long term tourists even if that means issuing new types of visas which makes it easier for people to stay for longer periods of time without having to do the stupid visa runs.

The numbers are going to be way down this year and this will have consequences which work their way throught the government right to the very top.

There is a visa for that it is called the elite visa.... :P

What they should do is adjust prior year numbers retroactively filtering out suspected in-out numbers and everything will be hunky-dory....

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I would like to share my horrible experience about bring refused entry into Thailand on 29th of May 2016. Previously since October 2015 I was staying in Thailand on a student visa and regularly attending my classes and learning Thai language. On February 2016 I received the bad news that my mother got stomach cancer and I decided to go immediately back to Turkey. So I did and my mother unfortunately only lived three weeks after that . After the death of my mother I decided to go back to Thailand and continue where I left off . On the 28th of May 2016 I boarded the plane from Istanbul to Bangkok. As I arrived in Bangkok got into the immigration queue handed over my passport and the lady asked me why I was in Thailand. I had left Thailand two and a half months ago while I was on a student visa and I told her then I want to go back to my school get my documents and go back to Malaysia to get a student visa again. She seemed to be confused and directed me to another officer that officer asked me the same thing and I told him the same. Then he took me to to an interrogation corner and started asking me questions. Meanwhile he was checking my previous entries into Thailand which were about 15x since the beginning of 2013. Because I like travelling a lot especially within South East Asia. He seemed to be unhhappy me talking to him in Thai language and telling him that I like the country and I want to improve my Thai language. He made me wait for an hour there went and came back with another officer they took me to another interrogation room down stairs without no windows. until then I was just keeping quiet but then I decided to ask if everything was okay he told me that I'm going to be refused entry to Thailand and sent back. I asked the reason he show me the Immigration Act number 2 "Having inappropriate means of entering the kingdom". I showed him 500 US Dollars and 4500 Euros cash and told him that it is more than 200,000 baht and I had more in my Kasikornbank account. he told me it's the immigration officers decision and he can't do anything about it. Then they took me to the departure I had to wait for 13 hours without no food and drinks. They even wanted me to pay for the security officer 750 baht for his daily wage + 900 for changing the date of my return ticket. And I was sent back to Istanbul. I don't think I had deserved this .I have a furnished apartment three motorbikes many friends and memories in Thailand I have never done anything illegal never overstayed my visas. Now I want to go back at least to sell my three motorbikes and my belongings but I'm afraid to be turned down again and lose another 30,000 baht for a wasted flight ticket.

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You had more than enough financial proof to show. Did you have a return or onward ticket?

Getting a visa prior to returning to Thailand would lessen the chances of being denied again. Perhaps try to enroll in a school before trying again and obtain a single entry non-ed visa. If not then get a single entry tourist visa.

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You had more than enough financial proof to show. Did you have a return or onward ticket?

Getting a visa prior to returning to Thailand would lessen the chances of being denied again. Perhaps try to enroll in a school before trying again and obtain a single entry non-ed visa. If not then get a single entry tourist visa.

Yes I had a return ticket and thanks for the advice. I will do that and get an ed visa from the embassy in Ankara. And this time will fly to Malaysia first so that if I get refused again they at least send me back to Malaysia and i can try again from there.
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You had more than enough financial proof to show. Did you have a return or onward ticket?

Getting a visa prior to returning to Thailand would lessen the chances of being denied again. Perhaps try to enroll in a school before trying again and obtain a single entry non-ed visa. If not then get a single entry tourist visa.

"Meanwhile he was checking my previous entries into Thailand which were about 15x since the beginning of 2013. "

Perhaps the IO's suspected he was living and working in Thailand using an inappropriate series of visas to do so.

Maybe he will scan and post the stamp placed in the passport at the time of refusal.

This chap may be wise to not attempt any immediate return.

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You had more than enough financial proof to show. Did you have a return or onward ticket?

Getting a visa prior to returning to Thailand would lessen the chances of being denied again. Perhaps try to enroll in a school before trying again and obtain a single entry non-ed visa. If not then get a single entry tourist visa.

"Meanwhile he was checking my previous entries into Thailand which were about 15x since the beginning of 2013. "

Perhaps the IO's suspected he was living and working in Thailand using an inappropriate series of visas to do so.

Maybe he will scan and post the stamp placed in the passport at the time of refusal.

This chap may be wise to not attempt any immediate return.

There is no clause under section twelve that states a denial can be done for staying here to long on assorted visas. It seem he was denied enty under clause 2 for lack of financial proof which was incorrect.

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Thanks for replying here to let us know you did have the cash and return-ticket to show at the airport - and it didn't make any difference. I do not plan to enter Thailand by air until I am over 50, with a retirement-based extension, for this reason.

I agree with UJ - definitely get a visa first. It would appear, based on many stories posted here, that an Ed visa in your passport is interpreted by Immigration is "Very Likely to be Working Illegally." If you go the Tourist Visa route (you can still take classes), I would replace your passport first, so the old 'ed' visa will not be there any more.

Whatever visa-path you choose, consider entering by land. In the worst case, if denied at that entry-point, you would not be stuck in Airport detention and forced to get burned on air-tickets / changes. I'll take a hotel in Laos or Cambodia over 'detention', any time. Entering from Cambodia or Laos would also allow you to try entering again at the many, generally-friendly entry-points, on the eastern border of Thailand. Your choices are fewer from Malaysia.

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You had more than enough financial proof to show. Did you have a return or onward ticket?

Getting a visa prior to returning to Thailand would lessen the chances of being denied again. Perhaps try to enroll in a school before trying again and obtain a single entry non-ed visa. If not then get a single entry tourist visa.

Yes I had a return ticket and thanks for the advice. I will do that and get an ed visa from the embassy in Ankara. And this time will fly to Malaysia first so that if I get refused again they at least send me back to Malaysia and i can try again from there.

Getting the visa would be the best option.

It is to late this time but you do have a right to appeal the denial of entry under this section of the immigration act. The fee for the appeal is 1900 baht.

"Section 22 : In the instance where the competent official discovers that an alien is forbidden from

entering into the Kingdom under the provisions of Section 12 , the competent official shall have authority
to order said alien by written notification to leave the Kingdom. If said alien is not satisfied with the
competent official’s order , he ( alien ) may appeal to the Minister. The order of the Minister shall be final.
Appealling cases are not allowed under Section 12 (1) or (10) , but if the Minister does not have an order
within seven days beginning from the date of submitting the appeal, it is considered that the Minister has
ordered that said alien is not forbidden from entering into the Kingdom under Section 12. Appeal must be
submitted the competent official within forty – eight hours beginning from the time of received said order
from the competent official and must comply with the pattern ( and a fee must be paid ) an provided in the
Ministerial Regulations. When appeal is submitted by the alien concerned , the competent official shall
delay deportation of said alien until an order for said case is receive from the Minister. While processing
under order of the competent official or while waiting for an order from the Minister , as the case may be ,
the provisions of Section 20 shall not be applied."
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On the story about a lady from the Philippines unable to speak Thai, immigration should also fine the school for providing false attendance documentation to get continued 90 day extension.

Large language schools are making millions of baht per month on student enrollment but not large enough facilities or teachers for the student enrollment.

I heard this is also true of companies with illegal worker: small fine for company making the money and large fine to foreigner.

I agree. The Filipino lady in question was indeed guilty of utilizing the services of a "visa school", so it's not surprising she didn't know the 3rd letter of the Thai alphabet,

I do know this particular school has shut its doors already, if indeed they had doors to begin with.smile.png

It is going to be very hard to find Filipino maids from here on in.

I spent 18 months in Thai Language school - and guess what.... if immigration asked me that I would not have known it either. I was never taught the alphabet in order, it was pronounciation, writing, grammer, etc. - but not the alphabet in order tongue.png (yes, it does cause problems if I try to look up words in a book based dictionary).

Even years ago, when I went to class I was required to sign attendance records etc. because that was what was the way it was done. The majority of their customers were people here on wp, and the price was higher than average... and the required hours per week before they would do a work permit was considerably higher than 4 hours.

I have never ever heard of someone going for a WP needing to attend thai language class or speak a word of thai.

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You had more than enough financial proof to show. Did you have a return or onward ticket?

Getting a visa prior to returning to Thailand would lessen the chances of being denied again. Perhaps try to enroll in a school before trying again and obtain a single entry non-ed visa. If not then get a single entry tourist visa.

Yes I had a return ticket and thanks for the advice. I will do that and get an ed visa from the embassy in Ankara. And this time will fly to Malaysia first so that if I get refused again they at least send me back to Malaysia and i can try again from there.

Getting the visa would be the best option.

It is to late this time but you do have a right to appeal the denial of entry under this section of the immigration act. The fee for the appeal is 1900 baht.

"Section 22 : In the instance where the competent official discovers that an alien is forbidden from entering into the Kingdom under the provisions of Section 12 , the competent official shall have authorityto order said alien by written notification to leave the Kingdom. If said alien is not satisfied with thecompetent official’s order , he ( alien ) may appeal to the Minister. The order of the Minister shall be final. Appealling cases are not allowed under Section 12 (1) or (10) , but if the Minister does not have an orderwithin seven days beginning from the date of submitting the appeal, it is considered that the Minister has ordered that said alien is not forbidden from entering into the Kingdom under Section 12. Appeal must be submitted the competent official within forty – eight hours beginning from the time of received said order from the competent official and must comply with the pattern ( and a fee must be paid ) an provided in theMinisterial Regulations. When appeal is submitted by the alien concerned , the competent official shall

delay deportation of said alien until an order for said case is receive from the Minister. While processing under order of the competent official or while waiting for an order from the Minister , as the case may be, the provisions of Section 20 shall not be applied."

OP - be sure to take the train and use the Pedang Besar crossing - not Sadao - and let us know what happens.

UJ - It would appear that appeal could result in detention for up to 7 days? I am not sure how much money someone would need to pay me to wait in detention for a week. Unless I am mistaken, there is no option to spend those days in an "air-side" hotel. Maybe, in practice, they do it more quickly - but as they were set on giving the OP a hard time, it would seem they could have dragged it out.

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You had more than enough financial proof to show. Did you have a return or onward ticket?

Getting a visa prior to returning to Thailand would lessen the chances of being denied again. Perhaps try to enroll in a school before trying again and obtain a single entry non-ed visa. If not then get a single entry tourist visa.

Yes I had a return ticket and thanks for the advice. I will do that and get an ed visa from the embassy in Ankara. And this time will fly to Malaysia first so that if I get refused again they at least send me back to Malaysia and i can try again from there.

Getting the visa would be the best option.

It is to late this time but you do have a right to appeal the denial of entry under this section of the immigration act. The fee for the appeal is 1900 baht.

"Section 22 : In the instance where the competent official discovers that an alien is forbidden from entering into the Kingdom under the provisions of Section 12 , the competent official shall have authorityto order said alien by written notification to leave the Kingdom. If said alien is not satisfied with thecompetent official’s order , he ( alien ) may appeal to the Minister. The order of the Minister shall be final. Appealling cases are not allowed under Section 12 (1) or (10) , but if the Minister does not have an orderwithin seven days beginning from the date of submitting the appeal, it is considered that the Minister has ordered that said alien is not forbidden from entering into the Kingdom under Section 12. Appeal must be submitted the competent official within forty – eight hours beginning from the time of received said order from the competent official and must comply with the pattern ( and a fee must be paid ) an provided in theMinisterial Regulations. When appeal is submitted by the alien concerned , the competent official shall

delay deportation of said alien until an order for said case is receive from the Minister. While processing under order of the competent official or while waiting for an order from the Minister , as the case may be, the provisions of Section 20 shall not be applied."

OP - be sure to take the train and use the Pedang Besar crossing - not Sadao - and let us know what happens.

UJ - It would appear that appeal could result in detention for up to 7 days? I am not sure how much money someone would need to pay me to wait in detention for a week. Unless I am mistaken, there is no option to spend those days in an "air-side" hotel. Maybe, in practice, they do it more quickly - but as they were set on giving the OP a hard time, it would seem they could have dragged it out.

I don't understand why you keep suggesting to do entries at a land border. The chances of being denied entry at a land border increase by a large amount verses an airport.

It would be in detention at at the airport. Not sure it is legal for them to charge for the detention they don't at other detention centers.

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