SoiBiker Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 News just in. Immigration officials explain why digital nomads released after raid: "None of them were actually doing anything that could reasonably be described as 'work'. There's no law in Thailand that forbids posing with a Macbook all day, or banging on endlessly about the 'startup' you'll be getting off the ground any day now". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ableguy Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Maybe they were looking for a boiler room ?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwdrwdrwd Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) At the end of the day, excuses and "I think I'm outside the law because..." explanations aside, it's still illegal and there is no visa that suits the digital nomad - as fully outlined here http://www.thethailandlife.com/working-online-thailand At the end of the day, literally, they were questioned by police then released without charge. In practice, it seems like the opinion of those that actually have the authority to enforce law in Thailand, differ those of 'The Thailand Life' and those that they consulted (none of whom were Thai lawmakers or enforcers). Seems to me that it is not considered illegal. It's not like the police tend to try to avoid charging people with illegally working after investing planning and resource in a raid with the purpose of catching illegal workers is it? Edited October 1, 2014 by rwdrwdrwd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanetX Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 At the end of the day they were detained against their will for infractions (not having a passport/ being a digital nomad) that have already been discussed and stated by immigration to not be infractions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 At the end of the day they were detained against their will for infractions (not having a passport/ being a digital nomad) that have already been discussed and stated by immigration to not be infractions But on the plus side, they have the material for a killer new blog post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlejuice Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Did you read through this thread before commenting? Who is complaining about the police or immigration? Who is operating outside of the bounds of Thai law? To break it down: 1 - The immigration police raided a co-working space under the suspicion that the people there were working FOR the co-working space. 2 - The people in the co-working space were taken for questioning. 3 - Once it was determined that they were not employed by the co-working space, the people who were questioned were released without charge. Points to take from this: Nobody is complaining about police or immigration conduct. Beyond a couple of people claiming it is a waste of resource - which, to be fair, it turned out to be. The people in the co-working space were not considered to be operating outside the bounds of Thai law. Why are you rolling out the 'if you don't like it go elsewhere' comment and defending the police from non existent criticism? They were released without any charges - generally that means the person questioned did nothing wrong. I think this somes it up nicely. And does this also pertain to your views regarding the laws of Thailand? That also happen to be officially written. No comment. Exactly. I guessed you would either ignore my question or not give a direct answer. This has been my point all along, because there are probably hundreds, perhaps thousands who share the same attitudes as you do and this is one main reason why the authorities have increased their observations on the activities of farangs in the country. Most of the blame that the Digital Nomads (whatever they’re about or do) hassle of today’s unwanted attention can be attributed to the likes of you and those like you, plus of course that has the knock on affect of eventually creating more hurdles for the rest of us who respect the laws and abide by the imposed Immigration department rules and regulations for foreigners staying in Thailand. Regarding your belief that paying taxes should not apply to you, have you heard the old saying; the two certainties in life? We pay tax and we die, and sorry to have to make you aware of this; but no one ever escapes either of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanetX Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 At the end of the day they were detained against their will for infractions (not having a passport/ being a digital nomad) that have already been discussed and stated by immigration to not be infractions But on the plus side, they have the material for a killer new blog post. And the police have material to try and avoid finding real killers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwdrwdrwd Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) Exactly. I guessed you would either ignore my question or not give a direct answer. This has been my point all along, because there are probably hundreds, perhaps thousands who share the same attitudes as you do and this is one main reason why the authorities have increased their observations on the activities of farangs in the country. Most of the blame that the Digital Nomads (whatever they’re about or do) hassle of today’s unwanted attention can be attributed to the likes of you and those like you, plus of course that has the knock on affect of eventually creating more hurdles for the rest of us who respect the laws and abide by the imposed Immigration department rules and regulations for foreigners staying in Thailand. Regarding your belief that paying taxes should not apply to you, have you heard the old saying; the two certainties in life? We pay tax and we die, and sorry to have to make you aware of this; but no one ever escapes either of them. Does the fact that they were released without charge not indicate that the Immigration department consider those they questioned today to be 'respect(ing) the laws and abide by the imposed Immigration department rules and regulations for foreigners staying in Thailand'? Bit of an oversight if not... In terms of taxes, Thai residents are only liable for tax on foreign income remitted to Thailand in the year it is earned, as with many other countries. Therefore it is quite feasible for taxes not to be a certainty - the saying is a fallacy - well, technicallly they are taxable, but on 30% of zero. Edited October 1, 2014 by rwdrwdrwd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudRight Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 It seems like the police (regular and immigration) were just doing their jobs, what's wrong with that...? It always amazes me the people (I thought to use another word but am opting to stay civil) who always come out here with nothing good to say about Thailand or Thai authorities. If they find it so distasteful to stay within the bounds of Thai law, and they are really here, why don't they leave - go to Cambodia, go home, or anyplace other than here? What about Thai in their own countries? How easy for Thai to go to them, stay, and work? I love Thailand and the Thai people, that's why I'm here.... If I didn't love Thailand and respect its culture I would go elsewhere. Who cares if it was 'their job,' to harrass foreigners and enforce bad laws? That could be used as an excuse for anything. You get a morality pass because someone else told you to do something crazy or unethical. And this is about Thailand not somewhere else, sorry your new perfect home is actually pretty <deleted> up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlejuice Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) Exactly. I guessed you would either ignore my question or not give a direct answer. This has been my point all along, because there are probably hundreds, perhaps thousands who share the same attitudes as you do and this is one main reason why the authorities have increased their observations on the activities of farangs in the country. Most of the blame that the Digital Nomads (whatever they’re about or do) hassle of today’s unwanted attention can be attributed to the likes of you and those like you, plus of course that has the knock on affect of eventually creating more hurdles for the rest of us who respect the laws and abide by the imposed Immigration department rules and regulations for foreigners staying in Thailand. Regarding your belief that paying taxes should not apply to you, have you heard the old saying; the two certainties in life? We pay tax and we die, and sorry to have to make you aware of this; but no one ever escapes either of them. Does the fact that they were released without charge not indicate that the Immigration department consider those they questioned today to be 'respect(ing) the laws and abide by the imposed Immigration department rules and regulations for foreigners staying in Thailand'? Bit of an oversight if not... In terms of taxes, Thai residents are only liable for tax on foreign income remitted to Thailand in the year it is earned, as with many other countries. Therefore it is quite feasible for taxes not to be a certainty - the saying is a fallacy - well, technicallly they are taxable, but on 30% of zero. I based my previous post on the comments of one particular poster and saying that it is those with these types of attitudes that are the cause of there being critical observations upon us by the authorities and that in fact these people are not doing themselves or anyone else any favours. Sure, the said group came out of this lightly, but it now means that these types of outfits that includes all themes of groups will have to be squeaky clean in the future and they will also have to keep a keen eye on the activities on those involved with their groups, because it`s rather like a stack of cards, one goes and the whole lot come tumbling down. I don`t make the laws in Thailand, neither do I have any influence towards the authorities here, I just abide by them without questioning the rights and the wrongs. What I am doing is given out some good advice, a tip off in fact and for those who don`t heed may find their lifestyles here in Thailand totally disrupted and problematic in the future. Again as I said; those who consider this as BS; it`s up to you. Edited October 1, 2014 by Beetlejuice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annako Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) I am a "digital nomad" and for the people who are not or who keep saying "set up a company" etc it's all stupid and you know very little. I pay 0 taxes, and nore do I intend too. I am from a country where if you live outside longer than 6 months you are no longer required to pay tax to them. I don't have to pay anything in Thailand either, great ( I would if I had too, see comment later). The whole idea of setting up a business and doing it "the right way" as many who know nothing about working online is a total joke, it defeats the concept of being a digital nomad. I work as much or as little as I want, sometime I will do nothing, other days I will put in hours at home. I don't need anybody other than myself, nore do I need to setup a business because money goes straight into my home country bank account, and they don't require me to declare anything. Starting a company and running it through there is so 20th century, get with the times. Which country are you from? This no-tax/nomad set up is all fun and games until the day you for example have particularly bad traffic accident that requires significant hospital time (quite likely in Thailand), get serious illness or suddenly lose your money/jobs for whatever reason that has nothing to do with you - what do you do then? Since you think paying taxes is stupid I guess you are on your own then… I am willing to put my money on that you would be running back home and claim all benefits/help you can think of. If you are not legally living anywhere or dont have company anywhere, you cannot get insurance for you as far as I know – or can you? I’m not that stupid to think that nothing bad ever happens to me or my business… life’s a bitch sometimes you know. Many learn this lesson too late when the s**t already hit the fan... I have seen it too many times in Thailand. Good luck to you! Edited October 1, 2014 by annako 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post skippie999 Posted October 1, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2014 Many posters here mention that there is not an easy visa for 'digital nomads' but they are not well informed! everyone who works online and generates over 70% of their turnover outside Thailand can apply for a BOI visa which needs an 'opening amount' of 700k baht and is valid for 3 years! So it is not that bad as many open fire on the Thai government! only people have to inform themselves correct and of course what they want to avoid, which is an international economic agreement that people can work with paying 0% tax! The tax rates in Thailand are very fair and not many countries can compete with that including all the beautiful infrastructure and services that Thailand has to offer. So it is not all that bad as many posters complain here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchClark Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) Another pathetic and pointless immigration raid. But isn't this what they are supposed to be doing? Preventing foreigners from working in the country without proper credentials? BTW, some great posts above. Edited October 1, 2014 by ClutchClark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry198 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) Which country are you from? This no-tax/nomad set up is all fun and games until the day you for example have particularly bad traffic accident that requires significant hospital time (quite likely in Thailand), get serious illness or suddenly lose your money/jobs for whatever reason that has nothing to do with you - what do you do then? Since you think paying taxes is stupid I guess you are on your own then… I am willing to put my money on that you would be running back home and claim all benefits/help you can think of. If you are not legally living anywhere or dont have company anywhere, you cannot get insurance for you as far as I know – or can you? I’m not that stupid to think that nothing bad ever happens to me or my business… life’s a bitch sometimes you know. Many learn this lesson too late when the s**t already hit the fan... I have seen it too many times in Thailand. Good luck to you! I have my own travel insruance that covers me for everything. And I don't see what is wrong with claiming benfits back home. When I worked back home, they took income tax from my salary and I didnt have a choice in the matter. I wasent even consulted. If I am allowed to claim benfits ( I don't think I am), I will happily do so. Who would'nt? It's free money. Life is a game my friend, it's all about how you play it. You are a nice person I assume but the system is a harsh beast that takes no prisonsers. We must do what we can in this life. God speed! Edited October 1, 2014 by Harry198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annako Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Which country are you from? This no-tax/nomad set up is all fun and games until the day you for example have particularly bad traffic accident that requires significant hospital time (quite likely in Thailand), get serious illness or suddenly lose your money/jobs for whatever reason that has nothing to do with you - what do you do then? Since you think paying taxes is stupid I guess you are on your own then… I am willing to put my money on that you would be running back home and claim all benefits/help you can think of. If you are not legally living anywhere or dont have company anywhere, you cannot get insurance for you as far as I know – or can you? I’m not that stupid to think that nothing bad ever happens to me or my business… life’s a bitch sometimes you know. Many learn this lesson too late when the s**t already hit the fan... I have seen it too many times in Thailand. Good luck to you! I have my own travel insruance that covers me for everything. And I don't see what is wrong with claiming benfits back home. When I worked back home, they took income tax from my salary and I didnt have a choice in the matter. I wasent even consulted. If I am allowed to claim benfits ( I don't think I am), I will happily do so. Who would'nt? It's free money. Life is a game my friend, it's all about how you play it. You are a nice person I assume but the system is a harsh beast that takes no prisonsers. We must do what we can in this life. God speed! So its ok that you claim benefits when you disagree paying tax that funds exact benefit you want? That to me is called greed. Just for the sake of argument, what if everyone does this? I know life aint always fair and tax is pain in the *** but at least I know if things go really bad - I do not need to worry at all as I am fully covered. Seen too many "know it all" guys in deep s**t because not being legal anywhere. System may not always seem fair, but you can change it if you think its wrong. Just go play the game, it works way better than moaning about it... or avoiding it. What's your insurance company? I'd like to know as during my research I did not find any company that offers insurance to person who does not have permanent address in some country (thai tourist visa is not sufficient either). They need to know where to ship you in case s**t hits the fan. This info is in the fine print... and they keep quiet about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry198 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 So its ok that you claim benefits when you disagree paying tax that funds exact benefit you want? Eactly, now you see how wrong the whole system is. There are a few coampies that insure you if you do not have a perm residence. World Nomads being one of the few. Something people living in Thailand on a TV should consider imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annako Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 So its ok that you claim benefits when you disagree paying tax that funds exact benefit you want? Eactly, now you see how wrong the whole system is. There are a few coampies that insure you if you do not have a perm residence. World Nomads being one of the few. Something people living in Thailand on a TV should consider imo Ah ok, so its ok for you to do it but not anyone else. First question World Nomads ask what is your country of permanent residence. DIRECT FROM WN POLICY: Your country of permanent residence can be defined as the country you would wish to be repatriated to in the event of a medical emergency and where you would be able to then receive long term medical care, if required. You must also be legally defined as a permanent resident (not temporary) of that country and have a residential address that you can refer to within that country. This same clause is all insurance policies that I have found... but they do keep quiet about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlejuice Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Which country are you from? This no-tax/nomad set up is all fun and games until the day you for example have particularly bad traffic accident that requires significant hospital time (quite likely in Thailand), get serious illness or suddenly lose your money/jobs for whatever reason that has nothing to do with you - what do you do then? Since you think paying taxes is stupid I guess you are on your own then… I am willing to put my money on that you would be running back home and claim all benefits/help you can think of. If you are not legally living anywhere or dont have company anywhere, you cannot get insurance for you as far as I know – or can you? I’m not that stupid to think that nothing bad ever happens to me or my business… life’s a bitch sometimes you know. Many learn this lesson too late when the s**t already hit the fan... I have seen it too many times in Thailand. Good luck to you! I have my own travel insruance that covers me for everything. And I don't see what is wrong with claiming benfits back home. When I worked back home, they took income tax from my salary and I didnt have a choice in the matter. I wasent even consulted. If I am allowed to claim benfits ( I don't think I am), I will happily do so. Who would'nt? It's free money. Life is a game my friend, it's all about how you play it. You are a nice person I assume but the system is a harsh beast that takes no prisonsers. We must do what we can in this life. God speed! You only get from life what you put into it, there are no free rides in this world and there is no bucking the systems. Those who think they can always end up as losers. My motto is and has always been; when it comes down to the authorities, is to make strides to always let them see what they want to see and to let them hear what they want to hear, that way the system will always work for you and not against you. I have never been in a situation where I have to constantly look over my shoulder or worried about who`s knocking on my door. Everywhere I have ever been I have always left the doors open for me. There is nothing wrong with claiming benefits for those who are legally entitled to them and yes life is a game, but that game has to be played fairly on all sides and in ways that does not infringe on others and not the I`m all right Jack approach and sod everyone else. And that`s the way life has to be played if you expect to have credibility and gain respect from people, or in other words, how to make friends and influence people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry198 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 So its ok that you claim benefits when you disagree paying tax that funds exact benefit you want? Eactly, now you see how wrong the whole system is. There are a few coampies that insure you if you do not have a perm residence. World Nomads being one of the few. Something people living in Thailand on a TV should consider imo Ah ok, so its ok for you to do it but not anyone else. First question World Nomads ask what is your country of permanent residence. DIRECT FROM WN POLICY: Your country of permanent residence can be defined as the country you would wish to be repatriated to in the event of a medical emergency and where you would be able to then receive long term medical care, if required. You must also be legally defined as a permanent resident (not temporary) of that country and have a residential address that you can refer to within that country. This same clause is all insurance policies that I have found... but they do keep quiet about it. Nice to know, they were too pricy for me anyway. Will need to renew in December, guess I'll stick who I am using now. Thanks for the heads up tho! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annako Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) So its ok that you claim benefits when you disagree paying tax that funds exact benefit you want? Eactly, now you see how wrong the whole system is. There are a few coampies that insure you if you do not have a perm residence. World Nomads being one of the few. Something people living in Thailand on a TV should consider imo Ah ok, so its ok for you to do it but not anyone else. First question World Nomads ask what is your country of permanent residence. DIRECT FROM WN POLICY: Your country of permanent residence can be defined as the country you would wish to be repatriated to in the event of a medical emergency and where you would be able to then receive long term medical care, if required. You must also be legally defined as a permanent resident (not temporary) of that country and have a residential address that you can refer to within that country. This same clause is all insurance policies that I have found... but they do keep quiet about it. Nice to know, they were too pricy for me anyway. Will need to renew in December, guess I'll stick who I am using now. Thanks for the heads up tho! I bet this came to you as a surprise - who reads fine print anyways... In insurance company's view you have to be permanent resident of a country, or you are not in fact insured under their travel insurance... You will find this clause or something similar in every insurance company policy.. There is nothing greedier on this planet than insurance company (they are worse than any government!) and they sure know how to cover their a** and to get you to pay the bill, plus they have an army of lawyers! This clause is just one of them, never take insurance without reading and re-reading the fine print. Anyways all the best with your chosen lifestyle, I hope life treats you well and fairly. Edited October 1, 2014 by annako Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry198 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I bet this came to you as a surprise - who reads fine print anyways... In insurance company's view you have to be permanent resident of a country, or you are in fact not insured under their travel insurance... You will find this clause or something similar in every insurance company policy.. There is nothing greedier on this planet than insurance company (they are worse than any government!) and they sure know how to cover their a** and to get you to pay the bill, plus they have an army of lawyers! This clause is just one of them, never take policy without reading and re-reading the fine print. Not so much, I have a degree in Economics so know how the world works, but still a good find for other digital nomads looking to get insured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistachios Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 So they let everyone go. Another crushing news for the anti nomad brigade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maybole Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 They need armed police to check passports? I thought it odd too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheSpade Posted October 1, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2014 I couldn't agree more. Regardless of what Immigration may or may not have said about on-line workers, sheer common sense should have told them that they do such work, quietly, well away from the prying eyes of anybody. I do feel sorry for anyone caught up in this kind of raid,, but Jeez, don't they have any sense at all? - a bunch of foreigners, on tourist visas or visa exempt stays, sitting at desks, working away on computers in a place advertising itself as a place for digital nomads to 'work...' Not everyone who uses a co-working space will be living in Thailand and working online. Many people who use them are genuine tourists who have emails to catch up on or something for work / their business back home that needs done ASAP. A co-working space is basically just a fancy name for an internet cafe / coffee shop. This is no misunderstanding. Digital nomads and similar groups all have sites on facebook and are openly encouraging and teaching farangs how to run online businesses and make money online here and there are those cashing in on these groups by organising meetings and being self appointed so-called digital instructors. Let this be a warning to those who believe that the Thai authorities will turn a blind eye towards those who create and run such groups, and think they can get away with running these kinds of outfits without the official permissions and work permits. This also applies to certain other clubs that have pay subscription memberships. Oh what crimes they are committing. Showing someone how to set up a website. Crime of the century. Before you start banging on about digital nomads being illegal and the source of all Thailand's problems you should remind yourself that prostitution is illegal in Thailand. Not saying you indulge or have done in the past but you know just in case you consider it. i have to agree with the guy above, i'd much rather my kids grow up self-motivated and self-reliant than some dead end benefits layaboutscutting edge of the new economywell done to you sir. Indeed. With the unemployment levels we have in the West, the messed up economy, the lack of skills young people have, the low wages etc people should be encouraged to set up their own businesses. Online business is perfect. It's low cost, almost anyone can learn the basics, there's a 1001 ways to make money online, you can be started in next to no time, there's little financial risk and the barriers to entry are low. But it'll never happen. Karl Pilkington (Idiot Abroad) of all people did a show where he went around the world seeing different jobs and ways of life people had that were out of the norm. He met two South Africans who started out as slum dwellers selling fish they'd buy in bulk from the market then sell door to door in the slums who were now 2 of the richest people in South Africa. They told him about how they had to hustle and get out there and get on with things, do what they could to make money. Karl rightly said how great it was that people were willing to hustle and do what it takes to get ahead but how it's hard in the UK as someones always standing over you with a clipboard telling you that you can't do it for some bullshit reason or health and safety or trying to tax you for it. Too true. People in the West aren't encouraged to be entrepreneurial or make their own way in life. You're given bullshit advice all your life that you just need to stick in at school then go on to uni (where 9 times out of 10 you get a useless degree you never use before ending up stacking shelves in tesco) Or get a 'good' job (read: a pointless job that pays a little more than min wage and can be taken away from yo at any time and your hard work is rarely rewarded) work hard, save your money, get a mortgage and a car and everything will be fine by the time you reach retirement age. That's bullshit. Working hard doesn't necessarily get you anywhere. I know people who have worked hard all their lives and have little to show for it now they've gotten older. Working hard at a low paying job with little prospects and no chance of progression gets you nowhere fast. You need to work smart, take risks, make your own way in life and do what you believe is right not what society tells you is right. Most of the successful and richest business men in the world did their own thing in life and didn't listen to others. They didn't become super successful and wealthy by getting a 9 to 5 job and putting a tenner away a week until retirement age. If I ever had kids I'd encourage them to start their own business, make their own way in the world, make their own living without relying on someone else for a handout (and I don't just mean benefits...I mean a wage!), to be able to work from anywhere in the world, live abroad and travel. Anyone who wouldn't encourage their kids to do that has serious issues and must want their kids to be as mediocre and meaningless as they are. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpade Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 If you're breaking the law and stupid enough to do it out in the open you probably deserve the punishment. Digital nomads - whatever the hell that is - often say how they can do their job anywhere. Well why would anyone provoke the authorities by all getting together in the same place to make a mockery of the laws? They weren't breaking the law hence why they were released without charge and left to go on their way. A co-working space is just a glorified coffee shop or internet cafe with a fancy name. They are designed for people to check emails or do a little work whilst abroad. Many people in them would literally be tourists just passing through. Completely, absolutely and totally agree. If these fools believe that they are restricted and penalised by the laws, than they should go and start a revolution, otherwise for the present they will be imposed to respect the legal processes. As I have said many times on TV in the past, the irresponsible actions of these people have the affect of tightening the rules for all of us. Why some people openly flaunt the laws of Thailand on the social media and at public meetings beats me? So you'll never of indulged in prostitution in Thailand which is not only illegal but also wrong on so many other levels? Strange that there's so many older guys on the TVF so outraged at some guy sitting on his laptop in a coffee shop, minding his own business, doing his thing online and not affecting anyone, doing anything wrong, not taking jobs away from locals, not getting any benefits from Thailand and putting money into the country. Yet if I had to guess many of these older guys themselves regularly break an actual REAL life law by using the services of prostitutes. Not saying you do but lets be honest a vast majority of the older guys that come to Thailand do so for cheap sex. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christie Paul Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Not satisfied with tanking tourist numbers, authorities now take at aim at geeks. I can hardly think of a group of people that are less trouble to a society and less intrusive. But to offend and harass them is a huge mistake. These people are connected, often to dozens of forums, social media platforms and know very well how to get a message out, to quite literally millions of people. And what will that message be? Thailand used to be cool. But its not anymore. Too many goons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thairastawoman Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 How stupid these people must be to go to a place that tells immigration "come here and find dozen or illegal workers"... Work from home or your hotel, retarded ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christie Paul Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 How stupid these people must be to go to a place that tells immigration "come here and find dozen or illegal workers"... Work from home or your hotel, retarded ! Charming advice... Better still, go to luxuriant Ubud in Bali, or Cambodia. The Philippines has some totally exotic locations - cheap too. Sri Lanka is studded with some spectacular locations. And you won't have to look over your shoulder or lock yourself up in your hotel room to write emails. You'd think that authorities would be delighted that people have actually found a reason to stay in Chaing Mai. Let's be realistic, it has its charms, but its not exactly exotic or interesting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooHaa Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I'm just curious... where do so-called digital nomads pay taxes? In the clients' country, their home country, or their server's country? Depends on where they have their company.. Most would have to start the company in their home country and pay the taxes there.. Anything else would be illegal in most cases (paying no tax at all . or having an "offshore company"). In some cases I guess an offshore company would be legal.. And then tax would be paid in that country. What a load of nonsense. 1. You don't need to set up a company. You can work as an individual, as most digital nomads do. 2. It is not illegal to get income and not pay tax anywhere. Many people do it and it's completely legal. e.g. For a UK citizen you can leave the UK and become non-resident for tax purposes, so you don't need to pay any tax on your income. Spend 4 months each in 3 different countries and you won't be liable for taxes in any of them. That is the reality. There is nothing at all illegal about it. Depends on the countries and the tax rules, but most countries won't tax you if you're there for less than 6 months. Many won't tax you if income is derived from outside the country. 1. In my home country Sweden people need to register as a company.. I assume it's the same in most countries.. Even if the company is only a 1 person company. 2. Didn't know that... Seems like Sweden is insane as usual... can i become a UK resident? in most western countries the individual has been incorporated since the day their birth certificate was issued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Not saying you do but lets be honest a vast majority of the older guys that come to Thailand do so for cheap sex. It might seem that way if you hang out in the wrong bars, but I don't think that's really true. I know plenty that didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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