webfact Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Koh Tao murder suspects detained for another 12 daysBANGKOK: -- The Koh Samui provincial court on Thursday ordered two Myanmar suspects in Koh Tao murder case detained for another 12 days pending more interrogations of the suspects.This was the fifth detention ordered by the court out of a total of seven of 12 days each as permitted by the law. The court however instructed the police to speed up the process so as not to keep the two suspects under detention for too long.The two suspects, Win and Zorin, were presented before the court by the public prosecutor who wanted to seek the court’s order to hold them in detention for another round of 12 days.The defence lawyer, MrNakhonChompoochart, said he would challenge the prosecutor’s demand for further detention of the suspects because he thought further detention was unjustified as the suspects had already been detained for 48 days.MrVeeravuthPrammahan, the deputy public prosecutor of SuratThani, told the court that police were to question the suspects further and the prosecutor were to question the suspects too regarding their complaint that they were tortured by the police.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/koh-tao-murder-suspects-detained-another-12-days -- Thai PBS 2014-11-21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelticBhoy Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) "The defence lawyer, Mr Nakhon Chompoochart, said he would challenge the prosecutor’s demand for further detention of the suspects because he thought further detention was unjustified as the suspects had already been detained for 48 days." Does Mr Nakhon reckons they should be released then? Murder suspects? 48 days is a sentence to this "lawyer" it would seem. Edited November 21, 2014 by Jai Dee Removed derogatory word 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunMoo Posted November 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 21, 2014 I wonder how Thai law looks at "wrongfully arrested" and "incarcerated without reason"In Scandinavia, you get about 7-10k baht, a day, for the time you wasted in the lockup. I guess here, they will just get the "you are lucky to get out again"To be honest, when is this charade going to end? Eveybody, even Thai's, know by now, that these two migrant workers did not kill anyone.... 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunMoo Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 "The defence lawyer, Mr Nakhon Chompoochart, said he would challenge the prosecutor’s demand for further detention of the suspects because he thought further detention was unjustified as the suspects had already been detained for 48 days." Does Mr Nakhon reckons they should be released then? Murder suspects? 48 days is a sentence to this "lawyer" it would seem. Have you been following the case? It's quite simple - either the state prosecute you or let you go, this charade has been going on for to long! Btw..Many ethnic Thai's goes out on bail - AFTER a murder conviction. So i guess, you can let these to fellows go back, to washing dishes on Koh Tao. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I wonder how Thai law looks at "wrongfully arrested" and "incarcerated without reason" In Scandinavia, you get about 7-10k baht, a day, for the time you wasted in the lockup. I guess here, they will just get the "you are lucky to get out again" To be honest, when is this charade going to end? Eveybody, even Thai's, know by now, that these two migrant workers did not kill anyone.... There is indeed a formula for this. You get 200 Baht a day, I believe. However, I don't think these 2 would qualify as they are just being held on remand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Another report elsewhere says the detention was to permit more evidence to be obtained so just how much more does a ' perfect ' case need ? More questioning of the suspects by police or is it to remind them what they're supposed to say ? Will their lawyers be present when they're questioned by prosecutors about the torture allegations ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunMoo Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) I wonder how Thai law looks at "wrongfully arrested" and "incarcerated without reason" In Scandinavia, you get about 7-10k baht, a day, for the time you wasted in the lockup. I guess here, they will just get the "you are lucky to get out again" To be honest, when is this charade going to end? Eveybody, even Thai's, know by now, that these two migrant workers did not kill anyone.... There is indeed a formula for this. You get 200 Baht a day, I believe. However, I don't think these 2 would qualify as they are just being held on remand. Well, in the west you also get compensated for wrongly "preventive detention". Its only the first 24 to 72 hours (depends on the EU country) that you can not get compensated for. (Edit. And again - in the scandinavian countries and Holland, you can also get compensated for the first 24 hours.) Edited November 21, 2014 by KhunMoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The stuttering parrot Posted November 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 21, 2014 There's a photo with the British ambassador with the coup leader general in today's news. Surely by now he must have something to say on the subject. I mean they have condemned the coup sent British police there to observe the murder of two British citizens and he's sitting down talking trade deals and it's all lovey dovey? Absolutely absurd ! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Reigntax Posted November 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) Strange how the British were able to enact a law in 1679 which is still in force today to stop the unjust detaining of suspects without charge but almost 350 years later thailand is not even close to sorting out this abuse of rights. I suppose we could go back further to the 1215 Magna Carta which also provides an accused with certain rights of Liberty. Edited November 21, 2014 by Reigntax 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post catweazle Posted November 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 21, 2014 So far for their "perfect" open and shut case that once was 100% "perfect", then 90%, then 80... The proscecutor obviously knows that he's walking on thin ice with the whole world watching. Would be interesting to know where the initial prime suspects, Mafia HiSo Brat and AC Bar Rambo and Fatty with the ray bone ring posing with the garden hoe are "residing" today... To the ones who did not follow up on this case from the very beginning: Please stay out of it, you have no idea what you are talking about! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post catweazle Posted November 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 21, 2014 "The defence lawyer, Mr Nakhon Chompoochart, said he would challenge the prosecutor’s demand for further detention of the suspects because he thought further detention was unjustified as the suspects had already been detained for 48 days." Does Mr Nakhon reckons they should be released then? Murder suspects? 48 days is a sentence to this "lawyer" it would seem. They are not murder suspects, they are patsies, my patriotic friend... 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alantheembalmer Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 So the RTP have only 2 more detentions to go. This could get very interesting about Christmas time! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yougivemebaby Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Why is there a delay. ? It's a perfect case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fritzzz25 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Why is there a delay. ? It's a perfect case Exactly!!! Perfectly botched! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 There's a photo with the British ambassador with the coup leader general in today's news. Surely by now he must have something to say on the subject. I mean they have condemned the coup sent British police there to observe the murder of two British citizens and he's sitting down talking trade deals and it's all lovey dovey? Absolutely absurd ! Whether you approve or not, life continues...business needs to be done.......... I doubt any country would cease diplomatic relations over something like KT..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyBowskill Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) Wonder if these two lads go to court every time thinking today will be our day to get out........ Must be a right kick in the balls, assuming they do and are in fact innocent. Edited November 21, 2014 by JeremyBowskill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The stuttering parrot Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I understand Chris y1 but surely and update after all this time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swifty5x5 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 The police were very quick to absolve the village head son through DNA testing. What happened to the retesting of these fellows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechnikaIII Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Ho hum ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Just reminding everybody they are also facing a charge of illegal entry into the country so I think they will continue to be held on that charge even if they are not indicted on the murder charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 if th B2 are facing illegal entry into thailand what about there employer, for employing such an illegal there is a penalty for employing illegals, something to do with work permit,, 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 The weasels need more time for interrogation !?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphya33 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 In the Bangkok Post, they said "Examination of material evidence was also not complete, including DNA taken from the body of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller.' Does this mean that they still haven't been able to match the DNA with these two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chiangmai sooty Posted November 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 21, 2014 Everyone knows these two guys would be incapable of the murders. Due to the corrupt useless police, they had to find some poor innocent soul so the police dragged these two in front of the cameras and charged them with the murders. It's the police who should be charged for botching a murder case and wrongfully charging these guys. They should be set free without any charge and paid compensation for all there worry. I have decided to leave Thailand due to the corruption, the pathetic police that don't even know basic road rules and the shocking Thai driving. It's been a good 8 years but I've had enough.I don't know why they paint pedestrian crossings when no one stops. And that is poor quality paint, only lasts 1 month if that! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 yeah, and after another, another and another 12 days or so they will be discharged and have to leave Thailand....Case closed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makkam Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Strange how the British were able to enact a law in 1679 which is still in force today to stop the unjust detaining of suspects without charge but almost 350 years later thailand is not even close to sorting out this abuse of rights. I suppose we could go back further to the 1215 Magna Carta which also provides an accused with certain rights of Liberty. Yes the British legal system is infallible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12DrinkMore Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Apropos http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/20/burmese-murder-accused-british-backpackers-thailand The pair, who were arrested a fortnight after the double murder and face a possible death penalty, passed the Guardian an open letter addressed to the victims’ parents. Handwritten in Burmese, and with their names signed in English, it reads: “We are really distraught about the loss of your children, and we share your grief. But we want to stress to you that we didn’t do anything wrong, and this crime was nothing to do with us. “In order that the truth can be revealed, we want to ask for help from all of you to ensure that we get access to information that the British government has. We would like this information to be shared with our lawyers so the truth can come out. We really want to express our thanks for your help.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadako Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 i dont mind when 3rd world ppl are daft through poor education ..........its when theyre up themselves that gets me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmayes Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 The weasels need more time for interrogation !?!? Beat the suspects into another forced confession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelticBhoy Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 "The defence lawyer, Mr Nakhon Chompoochart, said he would challenge the prosecutor’s demand for further detention of the suspects because he thought further detention was unjustified as the suspects had already been detained for 48 days." Does Mr Nakhon reckons they should be released then? Murder suspects? 48 days is a sentence to this "lawyer" it would seem. They are not murder suspects, they are patsies, my patriotic friend... "Patsies" they may well be but is it not for the rape and murder of a couple of people. Would that not make them, say, "murder suspects" in the eye of the law? Just askin' like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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