webfact Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Two more civilians arrested in connection with major bribery scamBANGKOK: -- Two more suspects wanted for bribery and four other charges that eight senior police officers and two civilians are facing have been arrested, Royal Thai Police commissioner spokesman said Monday.The arrest of the two who are husband and wife, Mr Chob Chinporapa and Mrs Tiyaphan, came after the Criminal Court issued warrants for their arrest on bribery in connection with the eight accused officers now facing five charges that include lese majeste, demanding bribes, and money laundering.Six senior police officers who included former commissioner of the Central Investigation Bureau Pol Lt-Gen Pongpat Chayaphan and his deputy Pol Maj-Gen Kowit Wongrungroj were dismissed from police services pending disciplinary action investigation, in addition to the five charges.The spokesman said Chob Chinporapa and his wife were under the police custody and were being questioned.One civilian suspect Mrs Sawong Mungthieng has contacted the police to turn herself in to the police, while another Mr Rerngsak Saknarongdej has escaped. Both were wanted for violating wildlife conservation law and bribery, he said.Former Crime Suppression Division commander Pol Maj-Gen Chaitat Boonkam who was earlier transferred to the Royal Thai Police Operations Centre same as the CIB commissioner, however, was still spared from the charges as evidence remained insufficient to implicate him, the spokesman said.But for another CSD officer Pol Lt-Col Akarawut Limrat who died falling from high ground, the spokesman confirmed the deceased officer also faced questioning in connection with the charges that eight police officers were accused.The spokesman said Pol Lt-Col Akarawut gave very useful information to the Investigation team.However the officer committed suicide later, may be from stress after he was engaged with the accused officers, the spokesman said.He said he was told that the officer had tried to commit suicide three times before he jumped to his death.Earlier circumstances surrounding his death was not explained as death certificate issued by Ratchathevi district office said he died from fractured spine bones after falling from high ground.Meanwhile Justice Minister Gen Phaiboon Khumchaya said the Department of Special Investigation (DSI) and the Anti-Money Laundering Officer (AMLO) were closely monitoring the case as suspects were accused of money laundering.He said it was not yet discussed if the ministry would request the case to be a special case that will allow the DSI to take over investigation from the police as the suspects were also charged with lese majeste.However he would seek information from the Royal Thai Police commissioner whether the case should be handled by the DSI or not as it was very complicated.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/two-civilians-arrested-connection-major-bribery-scam -- Thai PBS 2014-11-24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post huahinjoe Posted November 24, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2014 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 "However the officer committed suicide later, may be from stress after he was engaged with the accused officers, the spokesman said." After he "engaged" with them anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 "Maj-Gen Kowit Wongrungroj" Was this guy at one stage the head of the Ko Tao investigation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cuchulainn Posted November 24, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2014 Only a drop in the ocean, but a start nonetheless. Wouldn't have happened if the politicians were running the show. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Wonder if they will get bail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsujin Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 "demanding bribes" ... more like "receiving bribes" and getting them ... LOTS and LOTS of them ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xieng Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 So where's the usual 'theatre' in all this? Where are the photos of the police looking shameful with details spelled out using the actual haul? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bignose Posted November 24, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2014 There is a frustrating desire by some posters to give this story a "political" slant, I personally see it as something much more simple. After years of corrupt indifference we now see some real action, some serious investigation with some real results. Yes it is one case but it most definitely is a start, maybe now the cynical nay sayers can take a back seat and wait to see what else transpires. This present government may not be perfect but would any one of you prefer to go back to what we had? I'll take my chances with this present government, on the face of it an excellent result, lets wait and see where it goes from here! 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commerce Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 There is a frustrating desire by some posters to give this story a "political" slant, I personally see it as something much more simple. After years of corrupt indifference we now see some real action, some serious investigation with some real results. Yes it is one case but it most definitely is a start, maybe now the cynical nay sayers can take a back seat and wait to see what else transpires. This present government may not be perfect but would any one of you prefer to go back to what we had? I'll take my chances with this present government, on the face of it an excellent result, lets wait and see where it goes from here! Disagree. The present government is a wolf in sheeps clothing. It could be worse than ever imagined. And no, I don't like the Shin clan..... but utter irresponsible people are making decisions they have no experience of and contributing to the financial losses this country can no longer endure..... and for personal gain, I SHALL add. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lust Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 (edited) After years of corrupt indifference we now see some blah blah.. This present government may not be perfect but would any one of you prefer to go back to what we had? I'll take my chances with this present government, on the face of it an excellent result, lets wait and see where it goes from here! Smoke and mirrors. I miss the old thailand and would gladly go back. And you say you will take your chances with this government.. Opposed to what? Gonna go hold up your 3 fingers lol. Edited November 24, 2014 by lust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wilcopops Posted November 24, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2014 (edited) There is a frustrating desire by some posters to give this story a "political" slant, I personally see it as something much more simple. After years of corrupt indifference we now see some real action, some serious investigation with some real results. Yes it is one case but it most definitely is a start, maybe now the cynical nay sayers can take a back seat and wait to see what else transpires. This present government may not be perfect but would any one of you prefer to go back to what we had? I'll take my chances with this present government, on the face of it an excellent result, lets wait and see where it goes from here! simple is as simple sees..... be careful you just might get what you wish for! Edited November 24, 2014 by wilcopops 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siampolee Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Commerce post # 11 Disagree. The present government is a wolf in sheeps clothing. It could be worse than ever imagined. And no, I don't like the Shin clan..... but utter irresponsible people are making decisions they have no experience of and contributing to the financial losses this country can no longer endure..... and for personal gain, I SHALL add. Government moves against corruption . Wrong Government ignores corruption. Wrong. Commerce can you will you reveal to we, the great unknowing illiterate posters on T.V.F. your grand master plan to sanitise the system here then? Personally having been here for some 23 years + I among many others too I am sure would love to see your wisdom and theories explained and acted upon. Perhaps a mass debate might be a good opening gambit for you so as to start things moving. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsider Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 This is going somewhere... in a positive direction, one hopes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nickymaster Posted November 24, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2014 There is a frustrating desire by some posters to give this story a "political" slant, I personally see it as something much more simple. After years of corrupt indifference we now see some real action, some serious investigation with some real results. Yes it is one case but it most definitely is a start, maybe now the cynical nay sayers can take a back seat and wait to see what else transpires. This present government may not be perfect but would any one of you prefer to go back to what we had? I'll take my chances with this present government, on the face of it an excellent result, lets wait and see where it goes from here! Disagree. The present government is a wolf in sheeps clothing. It could be worse than ever imagined. And no, I don't like the Shin clan..... but utter irresponsible people are making decisions they have no experience of and contributing to the financial losses this country can no longer endure..... and for personal gain, I SHALL add. Sorry but I really had to think about Yingluck when I read this sentence. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commerce Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Commerce post # 11 Disagree. The present government is a wolf in sheeps clothing. It could be worse than ever imagined. And no, I don't like the Shin clan..... but utter irresponsible people are making decisions they have no experience of and contributing to the financial losses this country can no longer endure..... and for personal gain, I SHALL add. Government moves against corruption . Wrong Government ignores corruption. Wrong. Commerce can you will you reveal to we, the great unknowing illiterate posters on T.V.F. your grand master plan to sanitise the system here then? Personally having been here for some 23 years + I among many others too I am sure would love to see your wisdom and theories explained and acted upon. Perhaps a mass debate might be a good opening gambit for you so as to start things moving. Corrupt government moves against corruption...... perfect back yard. Corrupt government ignores corruption........ perfect back yard. I never said I have a grand master plan, Siampolee. You also know the answer to your latter comment..... I cannot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro01 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Has to be said - Prayuth has put his own personal safety on the line here. He is in charge and these guys would not have been charged without him. I hope his security is good as I'd like to see a lot more of this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bangkokfrog Posted November 24, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2014 I'm waiting for the finger pointing press conference and crime re-enactment. Or does this only happen to people without connections? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawker9000 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Only a drop in the ocean, but a start nonetheless. Wouldn't have happened if the politicians were running the show. Bingo! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siampolee Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Commerce post # 16 Corrupt government moves against corruption...... perfect back yard. Corrupt government ignores corruption........ perfect back yard. I never said I have a grand master plan, Siampolee. You also know the answer to your latter comment..... I cannot! A superb ''Paper Tiger '' response. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yann55 Posted November 24, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2014 (edited) How can corruption even begin to be seriously addressed when a massive majority of Thais see absolutely nothing wrong with it ? I remember a few years back when Mr T. was in power, a front page article in the Bangkok Post gave a list of high ranked people whose assets had increased dramatically since the (then) Thai Rak Thai party had taken over. Guess who was first on the list, with figures that showed his wealth had been multiplied by more than 5 ? Well, when I talked to my Thai friends and asked them if they found the fact shocking, they almost all said "that's what you do in this country when you reach the top. If I was in his place, I would do the very same thing". And then... they giggled. Mai pen rai. End of conversation. Thais do complain about corruption in the police, but it's nothing other than 'lip service', so to speak, because every single Thai person has a family member or close friend in the force and when they have a problem they call him to make it disappear. And they see this as being perfectly normal. Sociology is not like technology. You can't change a system that doesn't want to be changed. On the other hand when a group of people does want to change, things can move incredibly fast. Edited November 24, 2014 by Yann55 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakseeda Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 There is a frustrating desire by some posters to give this story a "political" slant, I personally see it as something much more simple. After years of corrupt indifference we now see some real action, some serious investigation with some real results. Yes it is one case but it most definitely is a start, maybe now the cynical nay sayers can take a back seat and wait to see what else transpires. This present government may not be perfect but would any one of you prefer to go back to what we had? I'll take my chances with this present government, on the face of it an excellent result, lets wait and see where it goes from here! Disagree. The present government is a wolf in sheeps clothing. It could be worse than ever imagined. And no, I don't like the Shin clan..... but utter irresponsible people are making decisions they have no experience of and contributing to the financial losses this country can no longer endure..... and for personal gain, I SHALL add. Sounds like you are talking about Thailands previous government.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Prbkk Posted November 24, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2014 How can corruption even begin to be seriously addressed when a massive majority of Thais see absolutely nothing wrong with it ? I remember a few years back when Mr T. was in power, a front page article in the Bangkok Post gave a list of high ranked people whose assets had increased dramatically since the (then) Thai Rak Thai party had taken over. Guess who was first on the list, with figures that showed his wealth had been multiplied by more than 5 ? Well, when I talked to my Thai friends and asked them if they found the fact shocking, they almost all said "that's what you do in this country when you reach the top. If I was in his place, I would do the very same thing". And then... they giggled. Mai pen rai. End of conversation. Thais do complain about corruption in the police, but it's nothing other than 'lip service', so to speak, because every single Thai person has a family member or close friend in the force and when they have a problem they call him to make it disappear. And they see this as being perfectly normal. Sociology is not like technology. You can't change a system that doesn't want to be changed. On the other hand when a group of people does want to change, things can move incredibly fast. Thais complain directly about police corruption as it is something they see personally and on a regular basis. What they don't see ( or if they do are too scared to talk about) is the mega corruption in other Thai public institutions. The true measure of this new guy will be how he addresses that issue, much closer to home, if at all. If he does, great; if he does not, nothing will have changed other than political realignment. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Where is the finger pointing pic when everyone wants to see one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commerce Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Commerce post # 16 Corrupt government moves against corruption...... perfect back yard. Corrupt government ignores corruption........ perfect back yard. I never said I have a grand master plan, Siampolee. You also know the answer to your latter comment..... I cannot! A superb ''Paper Tiger '' response. You know as well as I do that we are not permitted to answer in detail as much as we'd like to..... but thanks for debate...... THE BAIT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gonzo the Face Posted November 24, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2014 Remember the poll ran sometime earlier this year, yes here in Thailand, that said 68+% of those polled found nothing wrong with corruption, as long as you could get something out of it...... I found that extra shocking... How do you fix something that is wrong, if the majority doesn't see anything wrong??? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpeg Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 (edited) There is a frustrating desire by some posters to give this story a "political" slant, I personally see it as something much more simple. After years of corrupt indifference we now see some real action, some serious investigation with some real results. Yes it is one case but it most definitely is a start, maybe now the cynical nay sayers can take a back seat and wait to see what else transpires. I'll take my chances with this present government, on the face of it an excellent result, lets wait and see where it goes from here! No. 'We' did not 'see'. We read yet more from the ongoing propaganda from the junta. Which you 'farang', nor Thais, come to that, have NO say in. This present government may not be perfect but would any one of you prefer to go back to what we had? LOL! 'We' again. Even the citizenry has NO say and NEVER DID. Which is why this country is where it's at NOW Edited November 24, 2014 by jpeg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 There is a frustrating desire by some posters to give this story a "political" slant, I personally see it as something much more simple. After years of corrupt indifference we now see some real action, some serious investigation with some real results. Yes it is one case but it most definitely is a start, maybe now the cynical nay sayers can take a back seat and wait to see what else transpires. This present government may not be perfect but would any one of you prefer to go back to what we had? I'll take my chances with this present government, on the face of it an excellent result, lets wait and see where it goes from here! Disagree. The present government is a wolf in sheeps clothing. It could be worse than ever imagined. And no, I don't like the Shin clan..... but utter irresponsible people are making decisions they have no experience of and contributing to the financial losses this country can no longer endure..... and for personal gain, I SHALL add. Ding ! Another one ! .........................And no, I don't like the Shin clan..... but............................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 The arrest, prosecution and punishing of any criminal, regardless of rank or position, is applauded by this reader. Those that choose to qualify, minimize, justify, compare or detract are certainly free to do so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maidee Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 they should visit all the houses of those high in place, who knows how many money rooms they will find 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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