starky Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Having a less lethal option such as a taser would have been convenient in such a situation. Watching the cop run away was a big undignified for the RTP and only emboldened the perp. I understand that police protocol for dealing with a knife-wielding suspect charging at you would consider shooting him in the leg as appropriate. In Australia they are taught only to shoot at the chest. No head shots or leg shots. I think it is the same in most countries. Centre body mass. You don't fire warning shots you don't shoot to "wound" If you draw a service weapon with intent to fire it is assumed fatality is the most likely outcome. Yet to meet anyone that had the ability to shoot to wound an armed perpetrator running straight at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iumentum Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) Gosh if he is like this at 21 , whats he going to be like in a few years... Hopefully a bit more mature and acceptable towards his own mistakes..... oh well who am i kidding, admitting mistakes doesn't seem to be something most thai are likely to do. I actually find this whole "lose face" things very much ironic, because i often see that people are so afraid of losing face, that they're bound to do so. As an example, if i hire someone to do a job where they are in doubt of something, they wont ask because that will make them "lose face", but because they do not ask the chance of making a mistake is very likely and that way they end up losing face. There is 2 things i probably never will 100% accept or understand about thai culture, and that is the "lose face" thing and the "mai pen rai" attitude which causes a lot of problems in my relationship. Anyway, with his attitude, he should be thankful if he gets a few years older!!! Edited December 24, 2014 by Iumentum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wat dee Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 If this clown was in a western country he would probably be dead. No, just in States. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dietergerhard Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 if that guy had been in New York for sure he would have been dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunCruiser Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 If he ended up shot then he would have deserved it Attacking a cop with a knife could easily be a form of "blueicide." (Maybe in Thailand it would be "brownicide" but that doesn't have the same ring to it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longstebe Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Indiana Jones would have shot him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iumentum Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Indiana Jones would have shot him. And we all know what crocodile dundee would do! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedy Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) In Australia they are taught only to shoot at the chest. No head shots or leg shots. I think it is the same in most countries. Center of Mass. Double Tap. i.e. right between the nipples 2 shots Edited December 24, 2014 by seedy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigdog474 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Having a less lethal option such as a taser would have been convenient in such a situation. Watching the cop run away was a big undignified for the RTP and only emboldened the perp. I understand that police protocol for dealing with a knife-wielding suspect charging at you would consider shooting him in the leg as appropriate. In Australia they are taught only to shoot at the chest. No head shots or leg shots. I think it is the same in most countries. Also true in Canada (where I worked as a civilian for the mounties). Had a heated argument the other day with a friend over the Ferguson shooting ... he was saying that if the suspect had rushed the cop, the cop should have shot him in he leg, not lethally. I couldn't get across to him that these situations aren't Hollywood movies where cops shoot the guns out of people's hands. In the real world, shooting to stop means shooting at the center mass... the torso. But a lot of folks don't get it... Ya, I get it, that's why so many people in Canada and the USA are getting shot by police, they now get away with murder, I think the officers in this case only wanted to stop the assailant not kill him. It's easy to sit on the sidelines and say what you'd do or not do when your life is threatened, you may think you'll be cool and calm, but it's very easy to panic. Not always so easy to stand your ground when your life's in danger. Likely the office will be the center of many jokes to come but both him and the assailant are still alive. For me, I would of shot the SOB dead, dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smotherb Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Just shows what respect Thai people have for the RTP. I guess after all these years after bribes and corruption, karma is coming back in a "Big Way". P.S. I do not condone any physical attack on any police officer. then why say what you did ? Stupid man. If you really can't fathom what was said, you've applied the right name to the wrong person. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
how241 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Try that anywhere else and have 50 bullets in your chest. This is one very lucky nutcase. +1...very lucky he wasn't shot dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovaltech Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Having a less lethal option such as a taser would have been convenient in such a situation. Watching the cop run away was a big undignified for the RTP and only emboldened the perp. I understand that police protocol for dealing with a knife-wielding suspect charging at you would consider shooting him in the leg as appropriate. In Australia they are taught only to shoot at the chest. No head shots or leg shots. I think it is the same in most countries. Also true in Canada (where I worked as a civilian for the mounties). Had a heated argument the other day with a friend over the Ferguson shooting ... he was saying that if the suspect had rushed the cop, the cop should have shot him in he leg, not lethally. I couldn't get across to him that these situations aren't Hollywood movies where cops shoot the guns out of people's hands. In the real world, shooting to stop means shooting at the center mass... the torso. But a lot of folks don't get it... Whatever we see in the little clip, the police officer did the right thing after the shots where fired, he ran for his life... This is exactly why cops in some country's are using less patience with someone who is a possible threat to there life... There are numerous story's about violent suspects been shot at, with multiple rounds , and still succeeded to plant their knife in the shooter... So, officer, keep your distance to have the time and by all means... if you see a weapon in unfriendly hands, shoot, shoot for your life and for the life of those who you sworn to protect... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovaltech Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 In Australia they are taught only to shoot at the chest. No head shots or leg shots. I think it is the same in most countries. Center of Mass. Double Tap. i.e. right between the nipples 2 shots Cambodja drill... one double tap in the chest, + one under the nose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cup-O-coffee Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 The fact is... no one knows. He could have been coming to whack the officer who is shagging his GF or wife. He could have been coming to whack for another reason. He could have been higher than a kite. Take away the clothing and you have four or five lunatics running around acting like chimps having a go over territory. No one knows... and I'll warrant it isn't about the law or the principle therein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 ........sound like the actions of a Thai 'VIP'......the law does not apply to him...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techboy Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Ya know, this is an example of the lack of respect the people have for law ... for rules to create a civilized society ... and the blame falls smack on the corruption in the judicial system from the top down.Ya know. This post is an example of why I believe that many forum members are sclerotic. %-() Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techboy Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Gosh if he is like this at 21 , whats he going to be like in a few years... Aiiii! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamalaRider Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) Out of control narcissism rears its head again. I see it all the time in Macro where people choose not to recognize that someone would like to get by them in the isle as it would disturb their conversation on the phone. And I push my cart into them and say loudly, katoht kap with a smile, works like a charm with them limping slightly. Edited December 24, 2014 by KamalaRider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamalaRider Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Gosh if he is like this at 21 , whats he going to be like in a few years... 26-27? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebonykap Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 In Australia they are taught only to shoot at the chest. No head shots or leg shots. I think it is the same in most countries. Center of Mass. Double Tap. i.e. right between the nipples 2 shots Cambodja drill... one double tap in the chest, + one under the nose Maybe I'm a pacifist, or perhaps I put too high a value on human life. Surely, a perpetrator with a knife and the law enforcement officer 20 metres or more distant, a shot to incapacitate rather than "murder" would be more appropriate. Hip, groin, leg, kneecap would suffice. If the situation became such that the officer's life was in danger, then resort to the chest shot. Already way, way too much violence in the world IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Having a less lethal option such as a taser would have been convenient in such a situation. Watching the cop run away was a big undignified for the RTP and only emboldened the perp. I understand that police protocol for dealing with a knife-wielding suspect charging at you would consider shooting him in the leg as appropriate. In Australia they are taught only to shoot at the chest. No head shots or leg shots. I think it is the same in most countries. Also true in Canada (where I worked as a civilian for the mounties). Had a heated argument the other day with a friend over the Ferguson shooting ... he was saying that if the suspect had rushed the cop, the cop should have shot him in he leg, not lethally. I couldn't get across to him that these situations aren't Hollywood movies where cops shoot the guns out of people's hands. In the real world, shooting to stop means shooting at the center mass... the torso. But a lot of folks don't get it... Actually Doc, a lot of the things that "allegedly" happen here do seem like scenes from Hollywood movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whidbeyboy Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 If this clown was in a western country he would probably be dead. Not probably. You don't even need a knife in the US, just attack one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 what bull , ths took place on MONDAY morning right in the middle of all the tourists waiting for the boat tours, the guy was SHOT in the leg ...i saw the pool of blood and the trail of it across the road looks like they are worried about AOnang so the story has been changed The cop needs lessons regarding his side arm aim............ . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 what bull , ths took place on MONDAY morning right in the middle of all the tourists waiting for the boat tours, the guy was SHOT in the leg ...i saw the pool of blood and the trail of it across the road looks like they are worried about AOnang so the story has been changed The article - or "part article" above says EXACTLY where it happened and if you had followed the link to the full story you would have read that the policeman shot him in the leg, you would also have read the article was written on the 23rd, which was Tuesday thus making "yesterday" Monday. So what part is bull and what part has been changed to protect Aonang? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captspectre Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Looked like the policeman was firing straight at him, before the policeman ran away. what good is it to have the Thai Police armed if they don't use their guns? this is a classic case of shoot to kill! the scum bag deserved to die, instead a cop is hurt and we never did find out what happened to the perp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 If this clown was in a western country he would probably be dead. Or black!! wow.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farfetched Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 If this clown was in a western country he would probably be dead. Or black!! WOW!!! What a Racist remark. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Any shot that doesn't hit the perp is considered a warning shot in my book. Otherwise the police look bad for not hitting their target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masuk Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Any sane professional police officer knows NOT to fire "Warning Shots" into the air! Those bullets do come down and could injure or kill some innocent victim. Much better to shoot the warning shots into the perpetrator. In the video it appears he is shooting at the perp. not into the air so I'm assuming the "Khaosod English" writer got his or her facts wrong. A falling bullet could kill??? A lot of imagination here. Seems the Thai police are better trained than I imagined, and not shooting to kill. A knife is a lot more dangerous than a toy pistol, for which a child was killed recently in another Western country. If this had been in Melbourne, the crazy guy would be dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phrisco17 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Falling bullets do kill! The New Orleans PD warns the public every year not to discharge firearms into the air on New Years. Several people in NOLA have been injured by the stray bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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