connda Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 A conspiracy nonsense post has been removed as well a reply. Yeah, this usually brings out the 'tin-foil hat' crowd. But the fact is, although air transportation is probably safer than any other mode of travel, mechanical malfunctions do happen. Prays to those on-board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted December 28, 2014 Author Share Posted December 28, 2014 AirAsia plane with 161 aboard missing in Indonesia JAKARTA, Indonesia (AP) — An AirAsia plane with 161 people aboard lost contact with ground control on Sunday after takeoff from Indonesia on the way to Singapore, and search and rescue operations were underway.The plane lost communication with Jakarta's air traffic control at 7:24 a.m., about an hour before it was scheduled to land in Singapore, the Singapore Civil Aviation Authority said in a statement. The contact was lost about 42 minutes after takeoff from Indonesia's Surabaya airport, Hadi Mustofa, an official of the transportation ministry told Indonesia's MetroTV.AirAsia said in a statement that the plane was an Airbus A320-200 and that search and rescue operations were in progress.The plane had six crew and 155 passengers, including 16 children and one infant, the general manager of Surabaya's Juanda airport, Trikora Raharjo, told The Associated Press.There were six foreigners — three South Koreans including an infant and one each from Singapore, British and Malaysia, said Raharjo. The rest were Indonesians, he said.The plane lost contact when it was believed to be over the Java Sea between Kalimantan and Java islands, Mustofa said.He said the weather in the area was cloudy.The Singapore aviation authority said it was informed about the missing plane by Jakarta ground control about half an hour after the contact was lost."Search and rescue operations have been activated by the Indonesian authorities," it said, adding that the Singapore air force and the navy also were activated with two C-130 planes. -- (c) Associated Press 2014-12-28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 It's getting like the Bermuda triangle around this area of air space. Makes you wonder. The Bermuda triangle is nonsense 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NeverSure Posted December 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2014 (edited) Severe weather and a request for a different routing. Looks like weather trouble to me. There are still weather events that planes like to avoid. From the looks of the location and the altitude there is still a chance that the craft got down somewhere remote. I hope. I read thunderstorms. A full-blown thunderstorm can take the biggest airliner down. Of course I don't know what happened, but thunderstorms have air traveling both up and down side by side. This is what creates the electricity for the lightning followed by the thunder. This rapid air movement both up and down side by side creates what is called wind shear. It can tear a plane to pieces by hitting it from both directions at once. Edit. Pilots can see a thunderstorm on their radar because it is so dense. The rule is to stay 5 miles away from the edges of its top. Even then it can get very bumpy. Edited December 28, 2014 by NeverSure 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 flightradar24 #QZ8501 may have flown out of Flightradar24 coverage at 23:12 UTC as we are missing coverage on lower altitudes in this area. 28/12/14 11:40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catweazle Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Sad to read this - since the plane was over water at the time, I fear that there's no hope... Perhaps they managed to do an emergency landing on water, but then there shouls be EPIRB signals from one of the life rafts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangon04 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Sad, sad news. I pray that the plane and it's occupants are found, but it does t look good at all. Failing that, I hope the family and lived ones of this flight arnt out through the same anguish of the MH370 relatives. RIP. at least they got the airline name right now.. early news reports eg NHK were quoting a "Malaysian Airlines" flight from Singapore.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee b Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Oh no, I hope they find this one soon! What is going on really! Prayers to those on board and for all there familys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 flightradar24 #QZ8501 may have flown out of Flightradar24 coverage at 23:12 UTC as we are missing coverage on lower altitudes in this area. 28/12/14 11:40 After 4 hours it isn't likely a factor. The plane would travel 2,000 miles by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted December 28, 2014 Author Share Posted December 28, 2014 RT @W7VOA: #Indonesia Transport Ministry spokesman: Last contact from #QZ8501 was pilot request for permission to change altitude due to bad weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawrenceChee Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Omg ....prayers for the family ..not another one We really don't want this to happen anywhere and to anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwbrown Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Why does every article say the aircraft lost communication with air traffic control? It's the other way around! We're not on the aircraft so we have no idea now if they had comms problems but we do know that ATC lost radio, data and radar with the aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuketguyhere74 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Yes, doesn't look good, Prayers for the missing and their families. Thoughts with the families, this is obviously not looking good given that it is 4 hours or so missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpinx Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Hoping for the rescue efforts to find them soon. Looks like a monster thunderstorm -- it's big even on the satellite pics. Thoughts are with all on board and those waiting for news of their loved ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangon04 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Expect the mother of all cock-ups by the Indo authorities if search and rescue comes into the picture. Sad but true, with a major dose of "facesaving" thrown in.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangon04 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Why does every article say the aircraft lost communication with air traffic control? It's the other way around! We're not on the aircraft so we have no idea now if they had comms problems but we do know that ATC lost radio, data and radar with the aircraft. Is it safe to assume that AirAsia has not spent the extra money on installing the tracking equipment that we heard so much about in the MH370 story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delcavom Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 A conspiracy nonsense post has been removed as well a reply. Yeah, this usually brings out the 'tin-foil hat' crowd. But the fact is, although air transportation is probably safer than any other mode of travel, mechanical malfunctions do happen. Prays to those on-board. Well air travel is meant to be one of the safest modes of transportation. Beyond that they have black boxes that are nearly indestructible which should be able to tell us what happened and where the plane is located. You dont have to have a tin foil hat to know this. I imagine you will be happy with whatever the news tells you happened. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 RT @W7VOA: #Indonesia Transport Ministry spokesman: Last contact from #QZ8501 was pilot request for permission to change altitude due to bad weather. If the plane was flying at, say, flight level 32 (32,000 feet) and center was reporting rough air at that altitude but smoother air at flight level 25, the pilot would request permission to descend to 25. Center would find a spot for him and give permission including perhaps a slight change in direction to avoid traffic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernieOnTour Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 (edited) Severe weather and a request for a different routing. Looks like weather trouble to me. There are still weather events that planes like to avoid. From the looks of the location and the altitude there is still a chance that the craft got down somewhere remote. I hope. Yep, just read: ISOL CB FL450-XXX Edited December 28, 2014 by BernieOnTour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvavin Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 This is a seriously sad news! May Lord help them. Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpinx Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 flightradar24 #QZ8501 may have flown out of Flightradar24 coverage at 23:12 UTC as we are missing coverage on lower altitudes in this area. 28/12/14 11:40 Presumably because of weather clutter from that monster thunderstorm. I heard somewhere that the SAR effort was slightly delayed for the same reason, but hopefully they'll get going soon and something will turn up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernieOnTour Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 flightradar24 #QZ8501 may have flown out of Flightradar24 coverage at 23:12 UTC as we are missing coverage on lower altitudes in this area. 28/12/14 11:40 Unlikely, contact was lost on FL320 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy The Kid Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 My thought and prayers for them , and their families . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Severe weather and a request for a different routing. Looks like weather trouble to me. There are still weather events that planes like to avoid. From the looks of the location and the altitude there is still a chance that the craft got down somewhere remote. I hope. Yep, just read: CB ISOL 450-xxx ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draftvader Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 (edited) Unconfirmed (Indonesian media) that the plane is in the sea off Belitung Island - pprune ----EDIT---- Just checked the map and this would look like the plane descended on a glide path from the last known point of contact and was trying to make land. This is personal conjecture though. Edited December 28, 2014 by draftvader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernieOnTour Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 (edited) Severe weather and a request for a different routing. Looks like weather trouble to me. There are still weather events that planes like to avoid. From the looks of the location and the altitude there is still a chance that the craft got down somewhere remote. I hope.Yep, just read: CB ISOL 450-xxx ??... Isolated cumulonimbus from MSL up to 45.000 feetSorry for the typo, should have been ISOL CB FL450-XXX Edited December 28, 2014 by BernieOnTour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted December 28, 2014 Author Share Posted December 28, 2014 RT @W7VOA: MT @thenewpaper: Air Asia #QZ8501 Full passenger manifest released - http://ow.ly/GuGWh http://twitter.com/thenewpaper/status/549069298065735680/photo/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okey6thman Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 May God protect all d passengers and crew onboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 If as looks likely, this will be AirAsia's 1st frame loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scubascuba3 Posted December 28, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2014 Personally once someone has posted RIP and talks about prayers, there is no need for another 100+ saying the same thing, it doesn't add anything. Facts are good updates. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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