Felt 35 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Where at Nai Harn Beach are this guards hanging out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 More off topic posts removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twice shy Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Thats why the card has multiple languages on it . Guard would need to be walking the beach and showing it. As guard sees said swimmer entering the water, blows his whistle and walks up with card. Maybe an illustration would need to be on it too. Exactly - Here is the card that I'm producing, in English, Chinese, Russian, Korean and Japanese. (I'm just waiting on the Japanese translation and then I can print/laminate the cards.) I need to check how many lifeguard posts there are in Phuket - any links to this information? LIFEGUARD.jpg Well done simon ...I take my hat off to you for doing something constructive I am also sure that card you are printing up will save someone's life I hope this idea of yours is a success 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simon43 Posted January 18, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2015 Twiceshy - thanks for the compliment. I have now completed the Japanese translation and will print/laminate tomorrow. I also have a complete list of all lifeguard points in Phuket - so should be able to complete distribution next week. I speak good Thai, so can also explain the best usage of these signs to the lifeguards, (such as using the sharp edge of the plastic laminate to decapitate any stubborn Russian swimmers....) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinmaew Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Communication breakdown perhaps. People sheet heed these warnings I understand the frustration of the life guard idiot tourists like that guy should not be ignoring warnings like red flags. No wonder so many die in Phuket I saw 3 road accidents while I was there. F me, prices have gone though the roof, those kitties really want more, its a joke. 50 baht for Jok Moo and Kannon Jim!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawker9000 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 If a tourist ignores a safety warning, it's on him. End of story. It most certainly does NOT give a beach lifeguard cause for a physical confrontation. And we all know what's really behind the aggressive attitude; the lifeguard perceives that he's lost face as a result of the lowly "farang" ignoring him. The tourist's attitude is bad; the lifeguard's attitude is WORSE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKangMan Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 If a tourist ignores a safety warning, it's on him. End of story. It most certainly does NOT give a beach lifeguard cause for a physical confrontation. And we all know what's really behind the aggressive attitude; the lifeguard perceives that he's lost face as a result of the lowly "farang" ignoring him. The tourist's attitude is bad; the lifeguard's attitude is WORSE! "And we all know what's really behind the aggressive attitude; the lifeguard perceives that he's lost face as a result of the lowly "farang" ignoring him." - I thought the lifeguards became aggressive when the farang refuses to pay for the lifeguard's safety advice, or, the farang has somehow scratched the red flag pole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon43 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I distributed some of my info cards today at Surin and Bangtao beaches. In chatting with the lifeguards at both beaches, they said that their major problem was with Russian tourists, who regularly ignore their instructions not to enter the water when the red flag is flying. My info card was well-received at both beaches - anything that reduces the death toll, especially during the monsoon season, has to be welcomed. I'll get to the other beaches later this week and see what other lifeguards have to say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eezergood Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Go back next week & see where your cards are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogan Koori Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I distributed some of my info cards today at Surin and Bangtao beaches. In chatting with the lifeguards at both beaches, they said that their major problem was with Russian tourists, who regularly ignore their instructions not to enter the water when the red flag is flying. My info card was well-received at both beaches - anything that reduces the death toll, especially during the monsoon season, has to be welcomed. I'll get to the other beaches later this week and see what other lifeguards have to say. Russians and Thais don't mix well. The Thais are chilled and the Russians pig headed. You want to see Australian and Dutch working together. Now that's a volatile mix...it's war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smotherb Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Need to equip these guys with a card and written in different languages, "I'm advising you to stay out of the water because it's too dangerous now, please do not go swimming". Gee, that may work if the tourist is near the life guard, but what if the lifeguard doesn't know which language the swimmer speaks and how big does that card need to be when the swimmer is up the beach or already in the water? Next! Thats why the card has multiple languages on it . Guard would need to be walking the beach and showing it. As guard sees said swimmer entering the water, blows his whistle and walks up with card. Maybe an illustration would need to be on it too. Once in the water, obviously too late.Next! As I said, "Gee, that may work if the tourist is near the life guard" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawker9000 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I don't think the problem is that tourists failed to understand that there was a warning out. I think they did, and simply decided to ignore it. Sort o' thick-headed, but some people are just like that. The real problem though is in how these lifeguards went about performing their duties, and their attitude, in the face of that... They should get some time in the slammer for simple assault. If there's a need, then call the police to handle the situation. Don't presume to authority you just don't have, and don't act out your insecurities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon43 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 As I said, "Gee, that may work if the tourist is near the life guard" Glass half empty?? No single item or action is going to eliminate the risks on the beach. So, howabout the lifeguard has a loudspeaker system in the most common languages spoken by tourists? 'Get out of the water now' in Thai, English, Russian and Chinese should help - not expensive to implement. There are always solutions if you think positively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKangMan Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 The soluton to this problem is simple. They should get a few plastic shark fins that float, and tie them to a mooring block. Then, the lifeguards can stand there and point at them. No one goes in the water. Job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKangMan Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 As I said, "Gee, that may work if the tourist is near the life guard" Glass half empty?? No single item or action is going to eliminate the risks on the beach. So, howabout the lifeguard has a loudspeaker system in the most common languages spoken by tourists? 'Get out of the water now' in Thai, English, Russian and Chinese should help - not expensive to implement. There are always solutions if you think positively Perhaps the tsunami speakers can also be used to carry voice instructions, for this purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockneyrebel Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 just let the <deleted> drown next time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 PG published an article about Simon's cards ---> http://www.phuketgazette.net/phuket-news/Phuket-lifeguards-gifted-multilanguage-surf-warnings/48173#ad-image-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eezergood Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 well done Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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