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what time should the esl teacher leave school?


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Depends on the school policy. At my school both foreign and Thai teachers have to be at school at 7:45 h and can leave after 16:10 h.

Friends of mine are teaching at another school in town but have to be at school at 08:00 h but don't have to be on the premises when not teaching.

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I volunteer at the local public school, which is a 5-minute bicycle ride from my home. I have a very goofy schedule, split shifts, etc. That schedule seems to change monthly. I'm present 5 minutes before class begins and leave at the end of class. One afternoon I have two classes in a row :) Just have to move classrooms. If they want me at school 8 a.m. until 4 p.m. the four days a week I volunteer, they would have to start paying me a LOT and give me a desk to work from and some supplies to work with, too. Our current arrangement works well for all of us.

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Yeah it varies depending on the school

e.g. I had a friend who was teaching at a school in Lampang, and he wasn't even meant to leave the school grounds at lunch time (And it was compulsory that he pay the school x amount per month to have his lunch provided, regardless of whether he wanted it or not, and he couldn't/wouldn't eat about half of the dishes they selected).

By comparison, the school I was working at in RoiEt, allowed us to leave whenever we didn't have class.

Likewise, some schools require teachers to sign in and out during the school holidays, some require just once per week, some require the teachers to sign in/out every day, and others not only require them to sign in/out, but also to be present at the school during the holidays from 8am - 4pm, although a lot also can just go on holiday during the holidays.

Sometimes the rules which apply to Thai and Foreign teachers are different, and sometimes they're the same, a lot depends on the relationship between the school and the Foreigner, as well as the school's expectations. As Technically Thai teachers should be present from 8am - 4pm, including most of the holidays, and this should technically also apply to foreign teachers as well (The teachers then need to apply for annual leave over the school holidays if they want to not come in to school). However many/most schools are more relaxed than this, and allow their teachers a lot more leeway, particularly foreign teachers.

Apparently a lot of this stems from the fact that other professions / branches of government previously complained about how many holidays teachers had, and so Taksin's government* changed their policy in regards to how much time off teachers should have. It still hasn't caught on at a lot of schools though, since I don't think it was a popular change.

* That's based on what my wife told me a few years back, She could be wrong (Or I might have just remembered it incorrectly).

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Why not fulfil your contractual obligations? I guess your expected leaving time is written down.

What's in the contract, and how these are interpreted, differ depending on the school. Teachers who leave school between classes, are still fulfilling their contractual obligations, based on the interpretation of them which the school/employees are using.

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I tend to feel bad when i walk out of school early occasionaly but some other farang teachers do it all the time. Thai teachers dont do it but im not sure what they think about the farangs doing it. I get the feeling its why they treat us as below them. Example wai kruu day. Farlangs are told to just stand out the back and watch.

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Why not fulfil your contractual obligations? I guess your expected leaving time is written down.

This. I don't know why they bother with writing up such a detailed contract that clearly states our expected start and stop-work times, then as soon as we sign it, we're asked if we wouldn't mind coming in 45 minutes early on Mondays and Fridays, and couldn't we stay an extra 30 minutes on Wednesday to attend the staff meeting (that's never in English).

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At most schools I've taught at teachers were supposed arrive by 7:30 to 8:00 and leave at 4:00 to 4:30. However, all of those schools were 'open campuses' for teachers and we were/are able to leave for lunch or to do a bit of shopping.

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If you have to ask when it is appropriate to go home, then maybe you are in the wrong profession.

- You attend the school according to the hours in your contract. (What other teachers do is not relevant)

- You arrive early or leave late, as is required to complete your workload.

Jeez, teachers who are out the door at 30 seconds past bell time p*ss me off

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