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Hello!

It depends upon the school and the contract you've signed with them.

I started teaching about 5 months ago when I had only 7 classes a week and got paid by the hour.

And I started teaching 10 classes a week this term but was still paid by the hour.

However, I finally got a Non-B visa last month and then have started to get paid by the month now.

I was also paid for 3 days I took off work for a visa run to Vientiane.

So now I have been requested by the school to get there by 7am every Monday to meet the kids

but I can go to school a half hour before my 1st class starts and leave there right after my last class

is over on the other days, though I could go to school a half hour before my 1st class began and

leave there right after my last class was over every day. The Thai teacher have not been very happy

with me about it, but I don't care about it because I haven't been treated like all the other teachers yet.

We have the other foreign teacher, who has 18 classes a week, must go to school by 7am on one of the

days of the week and by 7:45am on the other days, and remain there till 4pm every day like all the Thai

teachers.

You should talk to your school director about it.

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If you have to ask when it is appropriate to go home, then maybe you are in the wrong profession.

- You attend the school according to the hours in your contract. (What other teachers do is not relevant)

- You arrive early or leave late, as is required to complete your workload.

Jeez, teachers who are out the door at 30 seconds past bell time p*ss me off

You wrote in brackets that it's not relevant what other teachers are doing.

But your last sentence makes me wonder. I hope that you're not the head teacher of a school who's monitoring others when they go home, call everybody, even the janitors "Ajarn" and sweep the classrooms tidy, just to show them how involved you are.

Perhaps you should mind your own business, because also the Thai teachers at our school have to wait until 4.30 (if there's no meeting). Students already leave school at 3.30.

Most of our Thai teachers are waiting at the scanner to sign out at 4.30. Is there something wrong with them?

Good teachers who work hard should have enough time for family and friends. Don't you think so? wai2.gif

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I hope that you're not the head teacher ...

I have been the KG teacher, the Primary teacher, the Secondary teacher, the Assistant Principal and the international school Headmaster, all in the space of a few years.

I clearly had a different upbringing to you. Regardless of the job, salary etc, you stay until the job is done for that day.

I have zero time for clock-watchers - it usually indicates a lazy individual who has no real interest in the job.

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I hope that you're not the head teacher ...

I have been the KG teacher, the Primary teacher, the Secondary teacher, the Assistant Principal and the international school Headmaster, all in the space of a few years.

I clearly had a different upbringing to you. Regardless of the job, salary etc, you stay until the job is done for that day.

I have zero time for clock-watchers - it usually indicates a lazy individual who has no real interest in the job.

Or someone that is efficient and doesn't NEED to stay any later!

Also many here have been at the same school while you have been "getting the job done as a KG teacher, the Primary teacher, the Secondary teacher, the Assistant Principal and the international school Headmaster" for the last few years!

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I hope that you're not the head teacher ...

I have been the KG teacher, the Primary teacher, the Secondary teacher, the Assistant Principal and the international school Headmaster, all in the space of a few years.

I clearly had a different upbringing to you. Regardless of the job, salary etc, you stay until the job is done for that day.

I have zero time for clock-watchers - it usually indicates a lazy individual who has no real interest in the job.

Or someone that is efficient and doesn't NEED to stay any later!

Also many here have been at the same school while you have been "getting the job done as a KG teacher, the Primary teacher, the Secondary teacher, the Assistant Principal and the international school Headmaster" for the last few years!

Reminds me of a "three in one" shop in Ubon.

You can have a coffee, got a chick satisfying your needs, while you're looking for the right type of gun, they're selling. P.S. I won't tell you where the shop is.

Wait, maybe I will, if you're also a three in one teeechaaa. thumbsup.gif

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I hope that you're not the head teacher ...

I have been the KG teacher, the Primary teacher, the Secondary teacher, the Assistant Principal and the international school Headmaster, all in the space of a few years.

I clearly had a different upbringing to you. Regardless of the job, salary etc, you stay until the job is done for that day.

I have zero time for clock-watchers - it usually indicates a lazy individual who has no real interest in the job.

Which leaves an important question.

What/who are you now? Hopefully not one of these "lazy individuals". Is it possible to make a TVF member to a Headmaster?

Or maybe THE Supreme Commander of the teaching forum? Please mods.....w00t.gif

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I hope that you're not the head teacher ...

I have been the KG teacher, the Primary teacher, the Secondary teacher, the Assistant Principal and the international school Headmaster, all in the space of a few years.

I clearly had a different upbringing to you. Regardless of the job, salary etc, you stay until the job is done for that day.

I have zero time for clock-watchers - it usually indicates a lazy individual who has no real interest in the job.

Which leaves an important question.

What/who are you now? Hopefully not one of these "lazy individuals". Is it possible to make a TVF member to a Headmaster?

Or maybe THE Supreme Commander of the teaching forum? Please mods.....w00t.gif

He's a hotel owner! Third one now ohhh and third wife I believe. So if a jobs worth doing ..... and all that!

Actually I quite like Simon's threads .. down to earth and entertaining :-D

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Hello!

It depends upon the school and the contract you've signed with them.

I started teaching about 5 months ago when I had only 7 classes a week and got paid by the hour.

And I started teaching 10 classes a week this term but was still paid by the hour.

However, I finally got a Non-B visa last month and then have started to get paid by the month now.

I was also paid for 3 days I took off work for a visa run to Vientiane.

So now I have been requested by the school to get there by 7am every Monday to meet the kids

but I can go to school a half hour before my 1st class starts and leave there right after my last class

is over on the other days, though I could go to school a half hour before my 1st class began and

leave there right after my last class was over every day. The Thai teacher have not been very happy

with me about it, but I don't care about it because I haven't been treated like all the other teachers yet.

We have the other foreign teacher, who has 18 classes a week, must go to school by 7am on one of the

days of the week and by 7:45am on the other days, and remain there till 4pm every day like all the Thai

teachers.

You should talk to your school director about it.

visa run? does that mean you're working here illegally?!

someone should talk to your school director about that!

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Hello!

It depends upon the school and the contract you've signed with them.

I started teaching about 5 months ago when I had only 7 classes a week and got paid by the hour.

And I started teaching 10 classes a week this term but was still paid by the hour.

However, I finally got a Non-B visa last month and then have started to get paid by the month now.

I was also paid for 3 days I took off work for a visa run to Vientiane.

So now I have been requested by the school to get there by 7am every Monday to meet the kids

but I can go to school a half hour before my 1st class starts and leave there right after my last class

is over on the other days, though I could go to school a half hour before my 1st class began and

leave there right after my last class was over every day. The Thai teacher have not been very happy

with me about it, but I don't care about it because I haven't been treated like all the other teachers yet.

We have the other foreign teacher, who has 18 classes a week, must go to school by 7am on one of the

days of the week and by 7:45am on the other days, and remain there till 4pm every day like all the Thai

teachers.

You should talk to your school director about it.

visa run? does that mean you're working here illegally?!

someone should talk to your school director about that!

The school director is probably one that couldn't find all the correct paperwork while pocketing the guys monthly salary and paying him by the hour!!!!!!

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You work the hours in your employment agreement. Ignore anyone trying to judge you for not meeting their standards.

If you are a conversation teacher and your contract doesn't require time outside of class, then by all means go!

One of the places I work accepts only one half of one percent of applicants. I show up for classes and leave. If my boss wants me for an evening event or to work with teachers during the term breaks, I do it. But nothing other than time with my students require my physical presence at school.

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I hope that you're not the head teacher ...

I have been the KG teacher, the Primary teacher, the Secondary teacher, the Assistant Principal and the international school Headmaster, all in the space of a few years.

I clearly had a different upbringing to you. Regardless of the job, salary etc, you stay until the job is done for that day.

I have zero time for clock-watchers - it usually indicates a lazy individual who has no real interest in the job.

I am a clock watcher. I arrive very early in the morning and I get a lot of work done before others arrive --provided they have opened the shutters and turned on the electricity. At the end of the day, I am absolutely beat and I need to have a decent meal. I am out of there exactly at quitting time (usually). I spend a fair amount of time doing work at home, where there is some peace and quiet.

I don't find it particularly fun to sit in the long queue of cars leaving if I can avoid it by being out of there at quitting time.

If they can want to stay later, they can change the contract and then I will consider it.

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Hello!

Thank you for your responses!

First of all, I just talked about my story to answer this topic, where it shouldn't matter if

I had to make a visa run or teach illegally.

It's been almost 6 months since I started teaching BUT I'm still applying for a work permit.

You can imagine how frustrated I have been by the fact that things have been going way

too slow here in Thailand, which I have to live with because I love the kids and teaching

them.

I won't do everything that all the Thai teachers have to do such as having to get to

school by 7:45 every morning simply because I haven't been treated like they are,

as I told you, BUT some of them have started to give me the cold shoulder by now

just because I just won't do the same things that they have to do.

As you know, the Thais are a group-oriented people, and they're not good at expressing

themselves by speech, especially to foreigners, but by attitude. Yes, they're very good at

ignoring and looking away! Yes, their faces will speak! I don't care about them as long as I

enjoy teaching here.

Yes, I know the Thai government subsidizes the schools that have foreign teachers with

a work permit.

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