hlfourie Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Hi everyone, I have just invested in a large industrial charger and battery testing machinery. My idea is to start a battery refurbishing shop that will service and restore old liquid acid batteries, around 90% of batteries can be restored using my method, that I will resell with a six months warranty. Do you think this will be a workable idea? And also does anybody know the details for the larger new battery suppliers here in Ubon, who might be interested in placing consignment batteries batteries in my shop for new battery sales. Your comments and suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 "Do you think this will be a workable idea?". Errr shouldn't you have already answered this question BEFORE you invested in the equipment ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlfourie Posted January 24, 2015 Author Share Posted January 24, 2015 Hi thanks for the reply, if you read my post, you would notice I did not ask if it's a workable idea, I asked for some ideas and opinions as I know it is workable, just hoping for some input from some business savvy people that probably make it more workable. Errrr understand now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve187 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Hi thanks for the reply, if you read my post, you would notice I did not ask if it's a workable idea, I asked for some ideas and opinions as I know it is workable, just hoping for some input from some business savvy people that probably make it more workable. Errrr understand now? quote '' Do you think this will be a workable idea?'' is that not a quote from your OP, asking for ideas and with an attitude, you are going to get lets of positive feed back here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlfourie Posted January 24, 2015 Author Share Posted January 24, 2015 You are a complete idiot obviously with nothing but boredom on your hands, please don't respond or comment any further to my post unless you have something useful, which I doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony5 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 You gonna refurbish dead batteries? I suggest you take a patent on that as quickly as possible, because nobody in the world has ever been able to do that. You gonna do that aside of your Whisky franchise? http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/789233-whiskey-franchise/ I suggest, don't give up the teacher job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve187 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 nice man it seems you have more negative replies than positive, that's the battery connection to the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony5 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 nice man it seems you have more negative replies than positive, that's the battery connection to the thread Hey, my reply was positive. you must have missed "I suggest, don't give up the teacher job." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve187 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I have seen batteries repaired in India they cut off the top, replace the plates, stick the top back on and refill with acid. but not seen that business model repeated anywhere.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktm jeff Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 What a "shockingly" bad attitude . Workable idea ? , depends how much you "charge" - fully i hope . With such a badly thought out business plan , i think it may be "terminal" . . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 You gonna refurbish dead batteries? I suggest you take a patent on that as quickly as possible, because nobody in the world has ever been able to do that. You gonna do that aside of your Whisky franchise? http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/789233-whiskey-franchise/ I suggest, don't give up the teacher job. once the whisky making flops he could use the still to make the distilled water for the batteries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Hi thanks for the reply, if you read my post, you would notice I did not ask if it's a workable idea, I asked for some ideas and opinions as I know it is workable, just hoping for some input from some business savvy people that probably make it more workable. Errrr understand now? Hi thanks for the reply, if you read your post, you would notice that you did infact ask if it was a workable idea. Errrr understand now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakshell Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Yesterday I had to get my car battery replaced roadside. After chatting to the mechanic here's what I learned. Here in the Middle East, car batteries don't last very long due to high temperatures. Generally, they last about 1 to 2 years before needing replacement. Used car batteries are not allowed to be resold here in UAE because they were often refurbished for nefarious reasons. However there is free zone company that refurbishes and exports them to Afghanistan, India and Pakistan, hopefully not for bad reasons. The company I called have a fleet of 10 roadside assistance trucks, operating on a 24 hour schedule. Each mechanic handles about 6-10 call outs a day with an average gross of about $100/service. Service includes battery, roadside assistance, replacement and battery disposal. When I crunched the numbers in my head, I realized there is a sustainable business model here. Of course this company has competition too, but with efficient reliable service they set themselves ahead of the pack (not difficult to do here in the gulf where services are not so reliable). I know that this isn't exactly the business that you are in but I guess a roadside assistance battery replacement business wouldn't be too hard to do in Thailand. Cars need maintenance everywhere that there are cars. I'm sure these companies exist, I never really looked into it. Consider starting with a small town or district and gradually expanding to other territories. Build up a good reputation and strong branding and all the good stuff. Good luck. Don't be put down by negative comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nithisa78 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Hi thanks for the reply, if you read my post, you would notice I did not ask if it's a workable idea, I asked for some ideas and opinions as I know it is workable, just hoping for some input from some business savvy people that probably make it more workable. Errrr understand now? if don mega can't find fault, how will he fun? it is very workable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlfourie Posted January 27, 2015 Author Share Posted January 27, 2015 Hi everyone, thanks for the posts. Three days now into the battery industry, new to me but has started beyond expectations. Oh and by the way my wife's whisky business is booming, so not a bad investment at all. If you guys need any direction or business advice advice, please don't be shy to contact me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony5 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Hi everyone, thanks for the posts. Three days now into the battery industry, new to me but has started beyond expectations. Oh and by the way my wife's whisky business is booming, so not a bad investment at all. If you guys need any direction or business advice advice, please don't be shy to contact me. How about some advice regarding trolling, seems you have a master degree in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlfourie Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 Trolling? Is there something wrong with your head, I was speaking about my success and was kindly offering advice to people like you, never mind you are obviously American so that explains your lack of brain cells and ability to just be humble and ask for advice when offered. Have a great day now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) Hi everyone, thanks for the posts. Three days now into the battery industry, new to me but has started beyond expectations. Oh and by the way my wife's whisky business is booming, so not a bad investment at all. If you guys need any direction or business advice advice, please don't be shy to contact me. Good to hear it has proven to be a sound business idea and a success, you should consider selling franchises. what is the average cost of a refurbished scooter battery and warranty does it come with? Edited January 28, 2015 by Don Mega Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlfourie Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 It is not exactly refurbishing, more like an battery exchange. You have a bust battery, I will exchange for another a second hand one, depending on the condition, if it looks like I can fix the battery and you want a working battery. I'll give 100baht for the dead battery and charge 300 for the second hand one that I have rejuvenated. Sorry, don't want to go into to much detail, many idiots on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlfourie Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 It is not exactly refurbishing, more like an battery exchange. You have a bust battery, I will exchange for another a second hand one, depending on the condition, if it looks like I can fix the battery and you want a working battery. I'll give 100baht for the dead battery and charge 300 for the second hand one that I have rejuvenated. Sorry, don't want to go into to much detail, many idiots on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Ok, so thats half the price of a new battery. what is the warranty on this replacement battery ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlfourie Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 The price for a used battery is around 800 baht, with 7 day warranty, so I'm less than used battery price and I give a 6 month warranty. Talking 12volt car batteries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlfourie Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 A new battery is 2000 baht by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 (edited) I was talking scooter batteries. My car is automatic, hell will freeze over before I expose myself to the possibility of being stranded due to being cheap and buying a secondhand battery..... yes I know new batteries also die but as general rule of thumb they will provide reliable power for atleast 18 months.... your secondhand battery might only last 18 days and your 6 month warranty will be useless to me if iam 1000's of KM away from you on a trip..... unless of course your warranty allows for re-reimbursement of a new battery replacement. Edited January 29, 2015 by Don Mega Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlfourie Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 My target market is the lower working class Thai, ie the guy who can't afford to spend half his Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlfourie Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 Sorry... Half his monthly income on a new battery. My batteries are chemically and physical redone. But your point is taken and appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 So pointless posting here on TV about it then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony5 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 It is not exactly refurbishing, more like an battery exchange. You have a bust battery, I will exchange for another a second hand one, depending on the condition, if it looks like I can fix the battery and you want a working battery. I'll give 100baht for the dead battery and charge 300 for the second hand one that I have rejuvenated. Sorry, don't want to go into to much detail, many idiots on this forum. So revenue is 200 baht per battery, minus investment and labor? Mate you gonna be rich in no time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bung Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Rejuvanating old batteries by desulfation is possible but you have no way of knowing how far gone a battery is and if it can be coaxed back into life. You would normally cut the top off and get the debris out after the process and clean it out before plastic welding it back on. If not you run the risk of shorted cells and there goes the battery you just paid 100 baht for. That is what the indians do as another poster mentioned. Then you have the fact that most thais are untrusting of any farang business of this type and they already know how to get the most out of a battery. I assume your wife will be running the business? You are going to be doing the desulfation process yourself? Of course you run the risk of having immigration catch you out or are you going to set up a company, work permits etc for a 200 baht profit on each car battery? (maybe one a day) Btw. If you have no experience in batteries i hope you know what safety precautions to take. Uncle somchai bending over to peer at a battery being heavily charged will make quite a mess of the surroundings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlfourie Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 Hi Bung thanks for the detailed post. I have experience in the industry and it is possible to check the individual cells of the battery to see that there are no dead cells, because then I won't buy it. My wife's sister will be running the business I will train her to do the desulphation. She will also be doing general motorcycle repairs. She is not the feminine type of female, so will be quite capable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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