easybullet3 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Why are Thailand's Star Sign Dates different from the rest of the world ? i don't care about star signs,, but t do want to find an answer to this question: I am Scorpio - 4th November. But, in Thailand, they are telling me I am NOT Scorpio!!! In Thailand , Scorpio runs from the 16th November to 14th December. and according to Thai Astrology,I am a Libra (the sign BEFORE Scorpio) !!!! it seems that in Thailand, ALL the starsigns are about 3 or 4 weeks BEHIND the dates that we are accustomed to. How on earth can this be ? is this something from they copied from the Chinese? or is it just GROSS MIS-CALCULATION? or is there a genuine intelligent reason for this? Here's a LINK to a typical Thai Chart: http://webboard.yenta4.com/uploads/2011/... (TRANSLATION BELOW) Capricorn 14 Jan - 13 Feb Aquarius 14 Feb - 13 Mar Pisces 14 Mar - 14 Apr Aries 15 Apr - 14 May Taurus 15 May - 14 Jun Gemini 15 Jun - 16 Jul Cancer 17 Jul - 16 Aug Leo 17 Aug - 15 Sep Virgo 16 Sep - 16 Oct Libra 17 Oct - 15 Nov Scorpio 16 Nov - 14 Dec Sagittarius 15 Dec - 13 Jan if anyone knows the reason why the Thai Dates are different,, PLEASE Let us know Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tw25rw Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I've seen it said that our star signs are wrong as over time, the constellations have "moved" so that the dates are no longer correct. Maybe when the Thais adopted 'our' system, they recalculated them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
condemnation Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 A lack of knowledge, understanding, and education. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkerry Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 In a nutshell, tropical zodiac year (western) v Sidereal year (Hindu). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Thai time? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easybullet3 Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) I've seen it said that our star signs are wrong as over time, the constellations have "moved" so that the dates are no longer correct. Maybe when the Thais adopted 'our' system, they recalculated them. A lack of knowledge, understanding, and education. In a nutshell, tropical zodiac year (western) v Sidereal year (Hindu). Thanks for your answers. I googled "Tropical Vs Sidereal Astrology" and i was pretty interested to see that "astrology" (as I know it) is not the 'only' Astrology out there. it seems the Indians also have their Hindu Vedic Astrology which takes into account the Earths adjusted positioning and time loss. to see a comparison of Dates: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidereal_and_tropical_astrology#Astronomic_zodiac Basically: the Western "Tropical" Astrology is Fixed. it was developed about 2000+ years ago and used the suns relation to the earth. but: about 5000 years ago, the Hindu indians already had their system which takes into account the fact that the Earth moves backwards about 1 degree every 72 years (in relation to the stars). so, since the Starting-point of the Western Method (about 2000+ years ago), the stars were in a different position to Earth as they are today. (about 23 or 25 degrees out of position!!) Hence: if you follow the Hindu System, (which accounts for the slow re-positioning effect) then most of us are NOT the Star-Sign that we thought we were!! We are in fact the star-sign that comes the month Before!! There is a good article about the two systems here: http://www.soulhealing.com/ending.htm and another one here: http://www.carolallenastrology.com/vedicvwestern.html Thailand traditionally has adopted the Hindu Indian method (as it has also adopted other things from india.. (ie: Bhuddism). (though I have noticed that some Gossip Magazines have gone with the Western Approach). I'm happy I learned this today Edited February 10, 2015 by easybullet3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinity11 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) Thais use the Chinese zodiac based on the year of one's birth? Edited February 11, 2015 by infinity11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Probably the same reason as its 2557 and the rest of the world (mostly) its 2015 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post krisb Posted February 11, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 11, 2015 It's because of Buddha. The western zodiac signs run on Jesus system. Tel them your Leo, you always get a beer that way 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Tel them your Leo, you always get a beer that way 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 So maybe the western zodiac is wrong? All the time I believed I was a libra and my horoscope never mstched, now I know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MZurf Posted February 11, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 11, 2015 Here's the real truth; it's all bullsh!t!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Here's the real truth; it's all bullsh!t!! About so many things here..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Watch Zeitgeist religion on YouTube, quite fascinating and answers lots of questions on the topic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exsexyman Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 A lack of knowledge, understanding, and education. Aw, don't be so hard on yourself! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko kok prong Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Thainess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave2 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 re Probably the same reason as its 2557 errr ummm errr .... we are in 2558 just joshin dave2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) Why is there the expectation that imaginary fairy <deleted> should be imagined up the same way in different parts of the world?? Edited February 11, 2015 by samran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tw25rw Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Well yeah, it's <deleted>, but if they have adopted the same constellations, then you might expect the same system. There are other systems using different constellations, which is fair enough considering they are just random patterns of stars with no relationship to each other except for how they appear to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bina Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 charlie h . in israel and among jews all around the world we are in year 5775.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony5 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I've seen it said that our star signs are wrong as over time, the constellations have "moved" so that the dates are no longer correct. Maybe when the Thais adopted 'our' system, they recalculated them. That makes sense, Thais are know to be much smarter than the rest of the universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tw25rw Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 "That makes sense, Thais are know to be much smarter than the rest of the universe." They take this stuff seriously, so naturally they make the effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony5 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) "That makes sense, Thais are know to be much smarter than the rest of the universe." They take this stuff seriously, so naturally they make the effort. You're right again, they take everything supernatural serious. su·per·nat·u·ral ˌso͞opərˈnaCH(ə)rəl/ adjective adjective: supernatural 1. (of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature. "a supernatural being" synonyms: paranormal, psychic, magic, magical, occult, mystic, mystical, superhuman, supernormal; More noun noun: supernatural; plural noun: supernaturals 1. manifestations or events considered to be of supernatural origin, such as ghosts. Edited February 11, 2015 by Anthony5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Not a direct answer to the op but some background information from a topic I started in 2006 - Thai Months & Days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 charlie h . in israel and among jews all around the world we are in year 5775.... Well now I'm confused bina! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 I am Sagittarius, half man, half horse, licenced to shit in the street Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubby johnson Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I am Sagittarius, half man, half horse, licenced to shit in the street Good point. Why are horses and elephants allowed to shit on the streets but I'm not? I pay my council tax, they don't! Yours, A disgruntled Virgo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trembly Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Thai horoscopes use the jyotic method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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