micmichd Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 http://books.google.co.th/books/about/Soldiers_in_Revolt.html?id=BIJjAAAAMAAJ&redir_esc=y The impact of Vietnam war resisters inside the US Army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtsabai Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Watch the movie "Sir, No Sir" about the GI movement, confession, I had a very small hand in the movie. Once gave a speech at the Olio Strut in Killean and was arrested. The still pic at the dedication at the end to John Kniffin, my best friend-killed by Agent Orange, is of the Texas 3, I'm the guy in the back. There are many other books, both about the Vets that came home and opposed the war and the GI movement. Quite a few about VVAW. My good friend that was cross border opps out of NPK is another VVAW strong member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarpoFongness4U Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Seems everyone missed a big part of the war. If you have read several books and watched movies Air America cooperated with the Thais in movement of a lot of drugs from Laos to Thailand. It was a business bigger than Air America. The deceased CIA guys Pat Landry, Jack shirley and Tony Poe were good friends until the died. It was a two way avenue. They are still moving high quantities of drugs through that route. Someone is supplying the islands with their party material for the backpacking crowd, and I saw large quantities of cocaine being snorted by Brits and Australians in the pubs, its not coming in via suitaces its coming in boats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtsabai Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 This is about Udon and US forces in Thailand, of course that would include the CIA, DEA, FBI, and all the other "initials". With as many agents as there are running around up here and the Chiang Mai etc. area, cocaine is not coming in from Lao or Burma, never were producers anyway. Think South America. Heroin always was the main product coming from Burma and Lao. Afghanistan is back in operation now for that. Yaba the main drug coming across now. Air America is out of business. BTW, loose lips sink ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarpoFongness4U Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 if this thread read instead, is the US still conducting covert activity from Thailand, would the responses be different? since when does the CIA leave, anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 There was a listening post in Khon Kaen until a few years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarpoFongness4U Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Thai at Heart, and others: Thailand has more than just "listening posts if this website is real, on cyber attacks world wide, Thailand is right up there in the top 5, whenever I look at this, and considering this is a country that couldnt do DNA test's in Kao Tao, I doubt this is run by the Thai's http://map.ipviking.com/# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Thai at Heart, and others: Thailand has more than just "listening posts if this website is real, on cyber attacks world wide, Thailand is right up there in the top 5, whenever I look at this, and considering this is a country that couldnt do DNA test's in Kao Tao, I doubt this is run by the Thai's http://map.ipviking.com/# Calm down. The CIA had a listening post in Khon Kaen airport and university. They staffed it with some interesting guys. One lover of Bacardi and another guy who was 7ft tall and looked like ZZ top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarpoFongness4U Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 those cyber attacks are coming from sofisticated networks, and aren't likely exposed to the public I would think the CIA has boiler rooms scattered throughout the cuntry for spying on the Chinese and Russians, based in Thailand and Vietnam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpokaneAl Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 those cyber attacks are coming from sofisticated networks, and aren't likely exposed to the public I would think the CIA has boiler rooms scattered throughout the cuntry for spying on the Chinese and Russians, based in Thailand and Vietnam Are you saying that you believe that recent cyber attacks, such as the one against Sony, are conducted by the CIA in some boiler room in Thailand? If so, wow, just wow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klikster Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Udorn Thani Province was not only a big air base but later was the local headquarters of the CIA run by Bill Lear and Pat Landry. Their assistant was Jack Shirley. They moved the headquarters for the local operation from Vientiane for political reasons. I think you mean Bill Lair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klikster Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Most, if not all, we think we know about CIA ops during Vietnam came via stories told at Madrid Bar in Patpong. I had a number of conversations with Jack Shirley -- and believed most of what I heard. He was normally good at confirming or denying stories. > One of the more interesting, IMO, was that Tony Poe (who I never had the privilege to meet) went to Tibet to escort the Dali Lama out of the country. > Jack Shirley was the only "civilian" to command a SF "A" Team > Tony Poe returned to the US (San Francisco?) because of a disinheritance threat from his aging mother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 if this thread read instead, is the US still conducting covert activity from Thailand, would the responses be different? since when does the CIA leave, anywhere? look for white Toyota vans with 2 long aluminum ladders mounted to roof racks on top. number plates are blue letters on a white background. look closely at the ladders, you will find camera's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2fishin2 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 You guys.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergen Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 One of the most entertaining topics in a while ................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDGRUEN Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) From about 1964 to about 1974 there were about one million American military personnel in Thailand over time. There were U.S. Air Force Bases located on Thai Air Forces Bases .. Utapao, Ubon Rachasima, Udon Thani, Don Muang, Takli, Nakon Phanom (NKP), A U.S. Naval Port at Satthip, U.S, Army Engineer camps all over central Thailand building roads to up north. Signal - Radio Relay sites, U.S. Army Special Forces Camps at numerous sites (see below). Plus U.S. Army Intelligence Sites and a CIA site at Udon... Also there was - later in the Vietnam War - a U.S. Marine Air Base at Nam Phong near Khon Kaen... There were a number of other places American Military personnel were stationed ... but I would have to get out my notes and not go by memory.. Oh - I forgot ... there were Special Forces Contingents -- the 46th. Special Forces Company Airborne... Headquartered in Lopburi with camps in a number of places in Thailand... From Trang to Nam Phung Dam Changwat Sakon Nakhon ... where I was stationed for one year. Edited February 26, 2015 by JDGRUEN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtsabai Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 It did take some some time, but some folks finally came out of the woodwork. Thanks. There is real history here, much no one will ever read about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpokaneAl Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 From about 1964 to about 1974 there were about one million American military personnel in Thailand over time. There were U.S. Air Force Bases located on Thai Air Forces Bases .. Utapao, Ubon Rachasima, Udon Thani, Don Muang, Takli, Nakon Phanom (NKP), A U.S. Naval Port at Satthip, U.S, Army Engineer camps all over central Thailand building roads to up north. Signal - Radio Relay sites, U.S. Army Special Forces Camps at numerous sites (see below). Plus U.S. Army Intelligence Sites and a CIA site at Udon... Also there was - later in the Vietnam War - a U.S. Marine Air Base at Nam Phong near Khon Kaen... There were a number of other places American Military personnel were stationed ... but I would have to get out my notes and not go by memory.. Oh - I forgot ... there were Special Forces Contingents -- the 46th. Special Forces Company Airborne... Headquartered in Lopburi with camps in a number of places in Thailand... From Trang to Nam Phung Dam Changwat Sakon Nakhon ... where I was stationed for one year. And Korat was a major air base as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micmichd Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 As a service, under command of Thailand. Of course, misuse is possible, and the CIA is known for this. This should be made public, and here's a good platform for publishing verifiable facts and data. They will be collected, evaluated and published, and I gguess nobody will have to hide in an airport's transit area this time. Please go ahead with details, thank you so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post daboyz1 Posted February 27, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2015 A lot of folks with tin foil hats in this thread. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDGRUEN Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 From about 1964 to about 1974 there were about one million American military personnel in Thailand over time. There were U.S. Air Force Bases located on Thai Air Forces Bases .. Utapao, Ubon Rachasima, Udon Thani, Don Muang, Takli, Nakon Phanom (NKP), A U.S. Naval Port at Satthip, U.S, Army Engineer camps all over central Thailand building roads to up north. Signal - Radio Relay sites, U.S. Army Special Forces Camps at numerous sites (see below). Plus U.S. Army Intelligence Sites and a CIA site at Udon... Also there was - later in the Vietnam War - a U.S. Marine Air Base at Nam Phong near Khon Kaen... There were a number of other places American Military personnel were stationed ... but I would have to get out my notes and not go by memory.. Oh - I forgot ... there were Special Forces Contingents -- the 46th. Special Forces Company Airborne... Headquartered in Lopburi with camps in a number of places in Thailand... From Trang to Nam Phung Dam Changwat Sakon Nakhon ... where I was stationed for one year. And Korat was a major air base as well. Oh yes ... going from memory so I knew I would miss one or more important bases or stations. Thank you for reminding me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDGRUEN Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 As has been noted before by Neversure .... the Best Thread to read about Thailand during the Vietnam War period is this thread... Lots of stories and lots of photos.. and not so much claimed cloak and dagger stuff. http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/657693-thailand-and-the-vietnam-war/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Bob Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 There is a small joint military detachment at JUSMAGTHAI just past soi 1 Sathorn Road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issangeorge Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 The Navy Seabees were also here and built spillways and structures like that in the North East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDGRUEN Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 The Navy Seabees were also here and built spillways and structures like that in the North East. Yes ... I have seen a story published on the Internet about one unit and their work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 As has been noted before by Neversure .... the Best Thread to read about Thailand during the Vietnam War period is this thread... Lots of stories and lots of photos.. and not so much claimed cloak and dagger stuff. http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/657693-thailand-and-the-vietnam-war/ Indeed it is an excellent topic and very informative and remarkably well behaved topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDGRUEN Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 As has been noted before by Neversure .... the Best Thread to read about Thailand during the Vietnam War period is this thread... Lots of stories and lots of photos.. and not so much claimed cloak and dagger stuff. http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/657693-thailand-and-the-vietnam-war/ Indeed it is an excellent topic and very informative and remarkably well behaved topic. When the Thread was created 'The Blether' the OP stated specifically that the Thread is about personal experiences and recollections not a debate about the War or anything political... And he ask the Admins/Moderators to help the members to respect that request. And that it was to be about Thailand not much of anything referencing Vietnam ... only as relevant And for the most the requests were followed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiguzzi Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 That station is still there. I had a friend who was walking near the gate and he was asked to turn around and go back the way he had come.this was about six years ago It is not a US facility. Wrong. Well, Americans work there, and drive an old Chevy van with funny number plates... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2fishin2 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 That station is still there. I had a friend who was walking near the gate and he was asked to turn around and go back the way he had come.this was about six years agoIt is not a US facility. Wrong. Well, Americans work there, and drive an old Chevy van with funny number plates... How do you know they are Americans.....because they drive a chevy van? This thread is about US forces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rice555 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 From about 1964 to about 1974 there were about one million American military personnel in Thailand over time. There were U.S. Air Force Bases located on Thai Air Forces Bases .. Utapao, Ubon Rachasima, Udon Thani, Don Muang, Takli, Nakon Phanom (NKP), A U.S. Naval Port at Satthip, U.S, Army Engineer camps all over central Thailand building roads to up north. Signal - Radio Relay sites, U.S. Army Special Forces Camps at numerous sites (see below). Plus U.S. Army Intelligence Sites and a CIA site at Udon... Also there was - later in the Vietnam War - a U.S. Marine Air Base at Nam Phong near Khon Kaen... There were a number of other places American Military personnel were stationed ... but I would have to get out my notes and not go by memory.. Oh - I forgot ... there were Special Forces Contingents -- the 46th. Special Forces Company Airborne... Headquartered in Lopburi with camps in a number of places in Thailand... From Trang to Nam Phung Dam Changwat Sakon Nakhon ... where I was stationed for one year. You forgot Korat, my closest friend was stationed here back then and use to fill napalm tanks. My X is from Ubon, back in the mid 80's, I saw a30-40M sideways dish pointed towards VN, NE of Ubon, but was not manned by US anymore555 rice555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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