tmaker Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Hi'all am gonna start a system for aquaponics. looking for the Blue 200 ltr plastic drums - but what i can find are second hand ( used ) and stored chemicals. so, the question here is, are those chemicals bad bor my system ? ( fish and plants ) i'm near Pattaya area . any suggestions for 'safe' used drums supplier? i found 2 , but not sure about the chemicals that was stored. may need to go again to look at the type and then search on the net to see if it is safe for my system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerry123 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 i would suggest buying new global house home pro have them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmaker Posted February 25, 2015 Author Share Posted February 25, 2015 is it also 200 ltrs and what's the price ? went to Home Pro in Siracha... don't see any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rice555 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Hello All, if you search through the old hydro threads, joecano had posted the phone number of a place between BKK/Pattaya that makes/sells new barrels, he also gave the prices. Used barrels here in Korat you can find places along the Hwy. that sell tanks and used barrels, thats where I found mine 6 years ago, and they came with the metal band lock. rice555 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmaker Posted February 25, 2015 Author Share Posted February 25, 2015 thks rice555. but i did searched before posting but did not find any. and i tried again. perhaps the thread is too old ? and i am not sure what is the title of the topic... can you help ? lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Equalizer Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 What exactly are you thinking of doing? Breeding fish? As Hydroponics is growing plants. I have an HND in Aquaculture and fisheries management so tell me what you want to do and i will give you some answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timc1988 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 I realize this guy is in the US, but his ideas look promising. http://www.naturalnews.com/048748_Food_Rising_grow_box_production.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmaker Posted February 25, 2015 Author Share Posted February 25, 2015 What exactly are you thinking of doing? Breeding fish? As Hydroponics is growing plants. I have an HND in Aquaculture and fisheries management so tell me what you want to do and i will give you some answers. ok. this is what i'm looking for as the container for the grow bed which i will cut into half. not the 'garbage bin' type with an open end. as per my 1st post, I found used plastic drums ( same as in the photo ), but used for storing chemical. you have any leads ? thks mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rice555 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Post #165 +-2 posts on the current Hydro thread first page: Posted 2008-08-30 23:24:40 "I was doing research on line and found two local dealers I thought to share with the T - V community. Maybe, I can get feedback on the products:COCONUT COIR: Super PeatNIQUE INTER CORPORATION LTD.193/133 24 floor Central city tower Bangna-Trad Rd. Bangna Bangkok 10260TEL : 66-2-7456882 FAX : 66-2-7456883http://www.superpeat.com Sales department : Mr.Nattawut T.Mobile : 0066-8-14094966Email : [email protected]----------------------------------------------------NUTRIENT DRUMS / BARRELS:Pack Delta Public Company Limited136-136/1 Moo 17 Bangplee Industrial Estate, Bangsaothong, Samuthprakarn 10540 ThailandTel. 0 2315 1360, 0 2315 2289-90, Fax. 0 2315 1293E-mail : [email protected]Website: http://www.packdelta.com/Product.htmlPlease note Pack Delta also has 120 Liters Blue plastic drums although not mentioned in there website. They also deliver to BKK if you pay for delivery costs. " I don't know if this info is current. Also, fell free to jump into any current aqua or hydro threads to ask a questions, some people get notified if a thread they have replied to. The aqua/hydro thread started by Fapington on the first page you should find some help. rice555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmaker Posted February 26, 2015 Author Share Posted February 26, 2015 thks a lot mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Trust me, in this country you want to go for new barrels. Unless you're growing tomatoes or anything else with long roots a 120 litres barrel is sufficient 8-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmaker Posted February 26, 2015 Author Share Posted February 26, 2015 thks a lot guys. already mailed Pack Delta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmaker Posted February 26, 2015 Author Share Posted February 26, 2015 so, i am gonna start this project of mine - well, by accident in fact. how it happened. just moved into a landed house and we asked a contractor to do some reno to the house. but the thing is.... when material are being delivered, i was telling my friend and the contractor, the materials' are just too much .even for a normal layman,he can see without doing any measuring/calculation. well,true enough.after almost all are about to complete i'm left with 2 mounds of sand and gravels !!! and they're not even 50% used up...even the bricks are plenty. so,i looked around and decided to build a fresh water fish pond. - i have salt water aquarium before so i know some things about water pH, ammonia and nitrates and so on.so, i searched the net for a better filtration solution . and i stumbled upon Aquaponics. and well, why not ? it's also a hobby and may be also for my retirement .if this can give me an income... so, i searched the net and found Accent in BKK for supplies and also an plastioc drums ( an earlier thread ) so, I NEED PLENTY OF HELP !! LOL... 1st question. some site says - remove the solid fish waste , some says no need.... answers ? 2nd. i intend to use wood for some of the structures and at some places for esthetic purposes. how should i treat the wood against termites - CHEMICALS are bad ,right ? thks !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasboot Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Hi tmaker, 1. Remove solids the and remineralise them offline,decant the clear water after turning off the air and add it back into the system,this reduces the oxygen demand on your media beds. 2. Treat the wood against termites but make sure you keep the wood away from the water,you don’t want anything leaching back into the water,or use concrete. 3. Instead of the blue barrels you could use the black bins the Thais use to mix cement in. 4.It is very difficult to make an income from aquaponics,your initial outlay is high,running cost have to be taken into account and it is difficult to get more money than the local Thai produce.I can sell everything i grow but i can’t charge much more than the local produce,we are going to start selling Tilapia with a pick your own,that way i reduce wastage and the shopper gets a much fresher product. 5.Instead of media why not look at DWC instead,works well for AP,i am in the process of changing over to all DWC. Anything i can do to help fire away,one good source of information is on the site Backyard Aquaponics,if you look in the Members systems we are Crappy Basil Growers are Us,Andreas Garden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmaker Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 thka mate. a LOT of terms to be learned. lol..may need your help to explain more !! or check out Youtube. anyways, this is not a short term project,I know that the initial cost is high. I have already spent close to 100 K and it's not even 50 % , i think.. lol...next would be the bins and the piping, then the clay ,then the stock.. i have just registered in Backyard Aquaponics at least 2 weeks already, but haven't got the time to sit back and read forums, tied up with work ( 8 pm everyday ) and then tied up with the setting up in my free time. what is DWC btw ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasboot Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 DWC is Deep Water Culture,the extra water can help stabilise the system in regards of PH,nutrients and water temp,last hot season the water temps for me got up to 32c which is struggle to maintain optimum growth,with this coming hot season the tanks are being moved under the house as its always cooler by a considerable margin.The media beds can be radiators,but taking on heat wheres as DWCs with the surface covered in poly floats you have insulation as such,with pipe work covered,water and air and the fish tanks in a suitable fish house you stand a chance of keep water temps at a reasonable level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmaker Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 (edited) another question : 1.for the usage of Bell Siphon - must all the water be removed when the siphon is activated or some can be retained ? let's say always 1" or 2 " of water remained after the siphon is finished and the top up continues. 2. for the depth of Grow Bed, what is the preferred depth ? is 6" enough ? advice ? Edited March 2, 2015 by tmaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmaker Posted March 21, 2015 Author Share Posted March 21, 2015 hi guys. tried to look for supplies and so on. no luck.. mailed Robert ( i think ) from Aquaponics Thailand... - THERE IS NO TELEPHONE NUMBER !! but no reply and it is already 2 weeks. any other way to get him ? thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rice555 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 hi guys. tried to look for supplies and so on. no luck.. mailed Robert ( i think ) from Aquaponics Thailand... - THERE IS NO TELEPHONE NUMBER !! but no reply and it is already 2 weeks. any other way to get him ? thanks. You probably haven't got a reply because they were at HortiAsia2015 last week, takes time to set up a booth, do the show, take all the display stuff back to the shop. or you could use this from their www. rice555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmaker Posted March 23, 2015 Author Share Posted March 23, 2015 thks rice555. somehow the page i visited only have NY contact number...lol... http://aquaponics-thailand.myshopify.com/ or i am really old....cannot see the local contact number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rice555 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Hello All, I dicked around with the links on the L/H side of the Facebook page, usually usually I don't do FB, but I need some hydrton and they are the only show in town. I don't know how big your building, but another option for tanks and cones is the place in the last 2 pic's and if you want a covered growing area, you can check out the places that rent/make canopies, some shops may also install. They have had wider ones than these in the pic. rice555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmaker Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 thks a lot mate. i will post up pics hopefully by next week. i have already covered my 'lawn' with polycarbonte . guess this will do. GB are already up. tinkering with piping and so on.... next will be the Swirl Filters. and also 'ringed' my walls with metal nettings.so it's able to let in insects ( bees ) but not birds.... partially also i intend to keep a pair or 2 sun conure and/or Canary in this BIG cage. i do not like the idea of keeping birds in a super tiny cage ( like all those that we can see all the time ) later i will add in Quail birds on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 I love threads like this one. I'm reading a lot about aquaponics and am really intetested in getting my own, small system set up - if/when I find the time. Anyways, just out of curiosity, why are you going to introduce birds into your cage/growing area? What, if any, are the benefits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmaker Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 I love threads like this one. I'm reading a lot about aquaponics and am really intetested in getting my own, small system set up - if/when I find the time. Anyways, just out of curiosity, why are you going to introduce birds into your cage/growing area? What, if any, are the benefits? not sure if there will be any ADDED advantage, just that we like birds in a BIG cage... i do not like to keep birds in tiny cages. i have a reply on another thread in BYAP where it is NOT recommended to keep parrot family type birds. http://backyardaquaponics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=24708 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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