Never understand people here?

[MrBrilliant]

There is no shame in ambition and working hard in order to improve your lot in life.

None at all. I don't think I said there was. I only said that those who suddenly find themselves in a good place thanks to living in the Third World, then think they're something they could only dream of back in the West, and get a perk on because they can drive daddy's Merc are worthy of a bit of ribbing.....

[stephenterry]

What's that got to do with this thread? It's about oh never mind,

[huawei]

There is no shame in ambition and working hard in order to improve your lot in life.

None at all. I don't think I said there was. I only said that those who suddenly find themselves in a good place thanks to living in the Third World, then think they're something they could only dream of back in the West, and get a perk on because they can drive daddy's Merc are worthy of a bit of ribbing.....

That is true in most expat communities, particularly amongst the wives..

I think the word is pretentious !!

[stephenterry]

It's about rich educated people being better than poor uneducated people

[rijit]

Showing thanks could be interpreted as they needed or wanted what was given. Needing something given could mean they couldnt afford or get it themselves ie showing weakness ie loss of face.

rijit

[thehelmsman]

This is pure gold. The ranting and umbrage of the Isaan Pensioners Millionaires that the local peasants aren't throwing themselves at their feet in gratitude for a few thousand baht is hilarious/sickening to behold though I suspect that 'anger is more a realisation that 'Tee Rak' is maybe not really into the wrinkled flabby, saggy old man body look after all....

What a bunch of losers. Maybe you could form a "I hate Thai Culture' meeting at your local mom and pop store every Wednesday?

Every morning the villagers gather at the entrance to my villa and bow down. It's becoming a bit tedious as I have trouble navigating my Fortuner around them.

[Ace of Pop]

Bcgardened,

Sorry, but i find your post repulsive, & yes I took the bait hook,line & sinker..

Food for Thought,,,,, I am very luckly where I was born & how my parents cared for me !!!

I could have been born in the middle of Africa or even worse as I had

no say over it

Stop Crowing toooooooo loud, the biggest rooster gets eaten first

Don't let it bother you. There's always a few members whose pension stretches to putting them in a level of society they could never have dreamed of at home which leads them to think they're part of the elite.....

There is also a few members that aren't on a pension and are working expats with an income that was better than home. I see no reason to denigrate someone because their income allows them to live a good lifestyle.

..I've met both of them.

[JLCrab]

Dad lets me drive the black Mercedes Benz, Mum the white Honda CRV. My wife, family, friends, neighbors, and community in BKK are kind, considerate, compassionate, sharing, honest, and and an absolute pleasure to live with.

I guess when you live and associate with low class, you get just that. Education, strong parenting, and a degree of affluence here in the city is more akin to my upbringing and beliefs, and couldn't be further than that of an Issan peasant.

It's a great asset to help others; but judging by most of the posts, the majority are partnered with the very low class. They are nothing like us. You can't have expectations when they know no better.

[janpharma]

What happens in Isaan?...I know after some years over there..."Kin, Noon, Kohok..."..."Eating, Sleeping, and telling lies"...

[Blackfox]

Dad lets me drive the black Mercedes Benz, Mum the white Honda CRV. My wife, family, friends, neighbors, and community in BKK are kind, considerate, compassionate, sharing, honest, and and an absolute pleasure to live with.

I guess when you live and associate with low class, you get just that. Education, strong parenting, and a degree of affluence here in the city is more akin to my upbringing and beliefs, and couldn't be further than that of an Issan peasant.

It's a great asset to help others; but judging by most of the posts, the majority are partnered with the very low class. They are nothing like us. You can't have expectations when they know no better.

Okay then. Some think my post is condescending.

I'll be straight with you then.

My Thai family are middle class. Mum and Dad own a couple of nice vehicles, land and property all about $5M. They are honest, proud and hardworking. This has been instilled in the younger members throughout.

My family are middle class and worth about $25M. I have no delusions of grandeur nor do I have a feeling of superiority thinking I rub shoulders with Hi-So; I'm not, I don't, and I never would. I have no time for them.

My family as with my Thai family started with very little but with a strong work ethic, smarts, and a warmth that draws good people, they have become successful.

My wife and I have never taken one Baht or Dollar from our respective families other than being provided a sound education.

My Thai family and friends are generous to those in need expecting nothing in return.

They have absolute hearts of gold and I have the greatest respect for them.

I say again, you can't have expectations of people who know no better.

Education and parenting instill sound values. It's just that many Issan residents are "sooner down from the trees" and don't possess the values many on here aspire to or possess themselves.

[MrBrilliant]

I have no delusions of grandeur nor do I have a feeling of superiority thinking I rub shoulders with Hi-So; I'm not, I don't, and I never would. I have no time for them.

Though you post a long post about how rich 'your' Thai family are......

[timendres]

Yeah Mrs bought the mushrooms. Look I don't feel suckered. I did help her because I wanted to. I just don't understand their thinking?

Her thought process is a simple one. She needs money. She knows you are a generous person. She probably believes that all Farang are well-to-do (meaning that can spare 50 baht just about anytime) and live and easy life. And she was offering to sell you something of value, as opposed to what many would do, which is beg for the money. People who are needy rarely have the luxury of generosity, and the Hollywood BS is a rare event indeed. I have experienced this, and a kindly "Thank you" is always sufficient in my book.

[Blackfox]

I have no delusions of grandeur nor do I have a feeling of superiority thinking I rub shoulders with Hi-So; I'm not, I don't, and I never would. I have no time for them.

Though you post a long post about how rich 'your' Thai family are......

$5M isn't rich in BKK. Yes, my wife's Father and Mother have done well. They are pragmatic and firmly grounded.

I don't doubt that in excess of 95% on this forum do not have a Thai family as wealthy and I'm certain there'd be but a mere few with the wealth of my own family.

For the record, I've made my own money and retired before 45. I'm generous to those in need.

My parents instilled a work ethic, integrity, and compassion as did my wife's parents.

Here, we help children with cancer and HIV.

We donate and I've helped carry the dead.

There are some very selfish, superficial people in this country and throughout the world but I've always found people who express thanks when I help; and I mean always.

[JLCrab]

I have no delusions of grandeur nor do I have a feeling of superiority thinking I rub shoulders with Hi-So; I'm not, I don't, and I never would. I have no time for them.

Though you post a long post about how rich 'your' Thai family are......

$5M isn't rich in BKK. Yes, my wife's Father and Mother have done well. They are pragmatic and firmly grounded.

I don't doubt that in excess of 95% on this forum do not have a Thai family as wealthy and I'm certain there'd be but a mere few with the wealth of my own family.

For the record, I've made my own money and retired before 45. I'm generous to those in need.

My parents instilled a work ethic, integrity, and compassion as did my wife's parents.

Here, we help children with cancer and HIV.

We donate and I've helped carry the dead.

There are some very selfish, superficial people in this country and throughout the world but I've always found people who express thanks when I help; and I mean always.

From the above: I don't doubt that in excess of 95% on this forum do not have a Thai family as wealthy and I'm certain there'd be but a mere few with the wealth of my own family.

I don't know how much I'm worth; I pay the wealth management department at the bank to track that for me so I don't have to know.

[cmrichsw]

Repeat the word THANK YOU many times it works. Just like teaching a parrot use the word over and over THANK YOU.

Don't expect anything in return and you won't be disappointed.

[rjcampbe]

Dad lets me drive the black Mercedes Benz, Mum the white Honda CRV. My wife, family, friends, neighbors, and community in BKK are kind, considerate, compassionate, sharing, honest, and and an absolute pleasure to live with.

I guess when you live and associate with low class, you get just that. Education, strong parenting, and a degree of affluence here in the city is more akin to my upbringing and beliefs, and couldn't be further than that of an Issan peasant.

It's a great asset to help others; but judging by most of the posts, the majority are partnered with the very low class. They are nothing like us. You can't have expectations when they know no better.

Okay then. Some think my post is condescending.

I'll be straight with you then.

My Thai family are middle class. Mum and Dad own a couple of nice vehicles, land and property all about $5M. They are honest, proud and hardworking. This has been instilled in the younger members throughout.

My family are middle class and worth about $25M. I have no delusions of grandeur nor do I have a feeling of superiority thinking I rub shoulders with Hi-So; I'm not, I don't, and I never would. I have no time for them.

My family as with my Thai family started with very little but with a strong work ethic, smarts, and a warmth that draws good people, they have become successful.

My wife and I have never taken one Baht or Dollar from our respective families other than being provided a sound education.

My Thai family and friends are generous to those in need expecting nothing in return.

They have absolute hearts of gold and I have the greatest respect for them.

I say again, you can't have expectations of people who know no better.

Education and parenting instill sound values. It's just that many Issan residents are "sooner down from the trees" and don't possess the values many on here aspire to or possess themselves.

I'm happy that you are happy, but you post carries the implicit message that rich and educated means better values and manners. That is just bullsh*t.

I agree that good PARENTING instills good values, but money, status, education, nationality, and ethnic background have NOTHING to do with good parenting. Just as being poor and uneducated doesn't mean you can't be a good person with good manners and values.

There are plenty of examples on both sides... There are lots of rich and educated pricks who have an superiority complex and no compassion for other people. There are lots of poor people who are respectful and gracious and kind. And vice versa on both.

Maybe you didn't intend for this to have such a class division sentiment, but that is how it came across to me.

[Toknarok]

Dad lets me drive the black Mercedes Benz, Mum the white Honda CRV. My wife, family, friends, neighbors, and community in BKK are kind, considerate, compassionate, sharing, honest, and and an absolute pleasure to live with.

I guess when you live and associate with low class, you get just that. Education, strong parenting, and a degree of affluence here in the city is more akin to my upbringing and beliefs, and couldn't be further than that of an Issan peasant.

It's a great asset to help others; but judging by most of the posts, the majority are partnered with the very low class. They are nothing like us. You can't have expectations when they know no better.

Okay then. Some think my post is condescending.

I'll be straight with you then.

My Thai family are middle class. Mum and Dad own a couple of nice vehicles, land and property all about $5M. They are honest, proud and hardworking. This has been instilled in the younger members throughout.

My family are middle class and worth about $25M. I have no delusions of grandeur nor do I have a feeling of superiority thinking I rub shoulders with Hi-So; I'm not, I don't, and I never would. I have no time for them.

My family as with my Thai family started with very little but with a strong work ethic, smarts, and a warmth that draws good people, they have become successful.

My wife and I have never taken one Baht or Dollar from our respective families other than being provided a sound education.

My Thai family and friends are generous to those in need expecting nothing in return.

They have absolute hearts of gold and I have the greatest respect for them.

I say again, you can't have expectations of people who know no better.

Education and parenting instill sound values. It's just that many Issan residents are "sooner down from the trees" and don't possess the values many on here aspire to or possess themselves.

I'm happy that you are happy, but you post carries the implicit message that rich and educated means better values and manners. That is just bullsh*t.

I agree that good PARENTING instills good values, but money, status, education, nationality, and ethnic background have NOTHING to do with good parenting. Just as being poor and uneducated doesn't mean you can't be a good person with good manners and values.

There are plenty of examples on both sides... There are lots of rich and educated pricks who have an superiority complex and no compassion for other people. There are lots of poor people who are respectful and gracious and kind. And vice versa on both.

Maybe you didn't intend for this to have such a class division sentiment, but that is how it came across to me.

Don't be too upset with blackfox, all his posts on ThaiVisa on whatever subject are about his superiority. How he is a wealhy, handsome, fit man who was able to retire at 45, how he hates fat, balding farangs with bar sluts in tow, blah, blah, blah. Mr superior man,he's been chastised many times for his attitude by members.

Your comments about good manners are spot on.

[hellyes2oo2]

I wonder why " Blackfox" keeps feeling the need to tell us many times over how wealthy his and his wife's families are. I can definately tell him that there are many many families in Isaan that are worth far more than 5 million baht. And as for his families wealth of 50 million baht, and his assumption that very few on here have that sort of money, if you convert that into english money it is about a half million pounds, and the truth is that would just about buy a small 2 bedroomed terraced house in London.

He really needs to get in the real world, these days his wealth is not a lot of money. As for his boast that he stopped work at 45, i am sure that there are many farangs on here that did the same.I stopped at 48, and if he has so much money why does he want to drive his daddies car.

And lastly, just because people come from Isaan doesn't mean that they are not intelligent. My wife was taken out of school at 9 years old, and sent to work as a machinist with her aunty in Bangkok. At the age of 25 she went to work in a paper mill in Japan, before returning to Thailand 15 years later. She taught herself how to speak Japanese, when I met her I taught her English, and as she now loves watching Korean movies on the internet, she has taught herself to speak Korean. So an uneducated Isaan girl, can speak fluent Japanese, English, and passable Korean, as well as Thai, and if you want to throw it in also the Laos dialect, then that is 5 languages. Can his well educated non Isaan wife speak 5 Languages. Just because someone comes from Isaan, doesn't mean they are not intelligent.

[mcfish]

Thanks Joe you suspicious old bstrd haha. Have u seen the meds the hospital dish out? I bought the kid a few things from the pharmacy (personally :-) to help the kids breathing issues

What type of meds do hospitals dish out

[rjcampbe]

Just because someone comes from Isaan, doesn't mean they are not intelligent.

Hell Yes to that!

And hard working, trustworthy, and polite.

[puukao]

Untl BKK becomes a rich city, there is no need for me to visit.

NYC is OK, but Tokyo has a better idea how to worship my money.

I haven't met anyone in Thailand that would stay after I gave them 100 million baht. Air quality, food, housing, etc....can all be beat elsewhere.

On TV, i have an account of 89047328947234809374980327432849073248074802937423432472 billion baht.

please PM for details on how you can subscribe to my newsletter for only 500 baht a day!!!!

[luk AJ]

Long time ago I went to visit my GF's family . I invited the whole family to dinner and at the end the half village was "invited" not a big deal money-wise but when I asked for the bill, I nostarted ordering take-away!ticed many of the "guests" This blew my fuse, I paid but left the same evening.

Yes, that is taking the manners bit just too far, in fact, it is taking the PI$$. I would have asked for and just paid the first bill, and left them to pay for the takeaway.

The "Takeaways" were properly only the rests in a plastic bag.....

Rests? You mean the leftovers to take home for the dogs? If that was the case, the waiters or whoever, would have handed out empty bags.

I have seen my wife doing this after a wedding meal. I can only assume "many of the guests", as the poster says, all had dogs.

The poster said "many of the guests started ordering takeaways", so I would think that is what he had actually seen.

Hey Possum1931, indeed they ordered extra take away and it also upset my GF parents. Some posters think that they know it better as if they were there and that they assume I am a newbe although I live here for 17 years. In another recent thread I posted in a sentence "I have the feeling that..." i got a reply that my feelings were incorrect !

[MrBrilliant]

Dad lets me drive the black Mercedes Benz, Mum the white Honda CRV. My wife, family, friends, neighbors, and community in BKK are kind, considerate, compassionate, sharing, honest, and and an absolute pleasure to live with.

I guess when you live and associate with low class, you get just that. Education, strong parenting, and a degree of affluence here in the city is more akin to my upbringing and beliefs, and couldn't be further than that of an Issan peasant.

It's a great asset to help others; but judging by most of the posts, the majority are partnered with the very low class. They are nothing like us. You can't have expectations when they know no better.

Okay then. Some think my post is condescending.

I'll be straight with you then.

My Thai family are middle class. Mum and Dad own a couple of nice vehicles, land and property all about $5M. They are honest, proud and hardworking. This has been instilled in the younger members throughout.

My family are middle class and worth about $25M. I have no delusions of grandeur nor do I have a feeling of superiority thinking I rub shoulders with Hi-So; I'm not, I don't, and I never would. I have no time for them.

My family as with my Thai family started with very little but with a strong work ethic, smarts, and a warmth that draws good people, they have become successful.

My wife and I have never taken one Baht or Dollar from our respective families other than being provided a sound education.

My Thai family and friends are generous to those in need expecting nothing in return.

They have absolute hearts of gold and I have the greatest respect for them.

I say again, you can't have expectations of people who know no better.

Education and parenting instill sound values. It's just that many Issan residents are "sooner down from the trees" and don't possess the values many on here aspire to or possess themselves.

I'm happy that you are happy, but you post carries the implicit message that rich and educated means better values and manners. That is just bullsh*t.

I agree that good PARENTING instills good values, but money, status, education, nationality, and ethnic background have NOTHING to do with good parenting. Just as being poor and uneducated doesn't mean you can't be a good person with good manners and values.

There are plenty of examples on both sides... There are lots of rich and educated pricks who have an superiority complex and no compassion for other people. There are lots of poor people who are respectful and gracious and kind. And vice versa on both.

Maybe you didn't intend for this to have such a class division sentiment, but that is how it came across to me.

Don't be too upset with blackfox, all his posts on ThaiVisa on whatever subject are about his superiority. How he is a wealhy, handsome, fit man who was able to retire at 45, how he hates fat, balding farangs with bar sluts in tow, blah, blah, blah. Mr superior man,he's been chastised many times for his attitude by members.

Your comments about good manners are spot on.

Sounds like another Thai Visa fantasist to me.....

[Blackfox]

I wonder why " Blackfox" keeps feeling the need to tell us many times over how wealthy his and his wife's families are. I can definately tell him that there are many many families in Isaan that are worth far more than 5 million baht. And as for his families wealth of 50 million baht, and his assumption that very few on here have that sort of money, if you convert that into english money it is about a half million pounds, and the truth is that would just about buy a small 2 bedroomed terraced house in London.

He really needs to get in the real world, these days his wealth is not a lot of money. As for his boast that he stopped work at 45, i am sure that there are many farangs on here that did the same.I stopped at 48, and if he has so much money why does he want to drive his daddies car.

And lastly, just because people come from Isaan doesn't mean that they are not intelligent. My wife was taken out of school at 9 years old, and sent to work as a machinist with her aunty in Bangkok. At the age of 25 she went to work in a paper mill in Japan, before returning to Thailand 15 years later. She taught herself how to speak Japanese, when I met her I taught her English, and as she now loves watching Korean movies on the internet, she has taught herself to speak Korean. So an uneducated Isaan girl, can speak fluent Japanese, English, and passable Korean, as well as Thai, and if you want to throw it in also the Laos dialect, then that is 5 languages. Can his well educated non Isaan wife speak 5 Languages. Just because someone comes from Isaan, doesn't mean they are not intelligent.

Er, that was dollars man, not Baht.

Hence the "$" sign .

We are off to New York and San Fran for 3 weeks leaving next week and then back home here for Maroon 5.

Trip down under shortly thereafter.

November will have 2 weeks assisting underprivileged and the dead here in BKK.

My wife and family will be a part of this also.

[TommyUK1960]

Thai's in the village see so many farang throwing money about they think were all rich. I did a favour once for Thai lady. got no thanks. Never help again.

[JLCrab]

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November will have 2 weeks assisting underprivileged and the dead here in BKK.

My wife and family will be a part of this also.

I'm sure the dead will greatly appreciate your assistance.

[Blackfox]

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November will have 2 weeks assisting underprivileged and the dead here in BKK.

My wife and family will be a part of this also.

I'm sure the dead will greatly appreciate your assistance.

Kids with cancer, HIV and the dead, prick.

[JLCrab]

Have fun in NYC, home of Donald Trump -- walking proof that being super-wealthy and a horse's a-s are not mutually exclusive.

[Ban Merry]

Dad lets me drive the black Mercedes Benz, Mum the white Honda CRV. My wife, family, friends, neighbors, and community in BKK are kind, considerate, compassionate, sharing, honest, and and an absolute pleasure to live with.

I guess when you live and associate with low class, you get just that. Education, strong parenting, and a degree of affluence here in the city is more akin to my upbringing and beliefs, and couldn't be further than that of an Issan peasant.

It's a great asset to help others; but judging by most of the posts, the majority are partnered with the very low class. They are nothing like us. You can't have expectations when they know no better.

Okay then. Some think my post is condescending.

I'll be straight with you then.

My Thai family are middle class. Mum and Dad own a couple of nice vehicles, land and property all about $5M. They are honest, proud and hardworking. This has been instilled in the younger members throughout.

My family are middle class and worth about $25M. I have no delusions of grandeur nor do I have a feeling of superiority thinking I rub shoulders with Hi-So; I'm not, I don't, and I never would. I have no time for them.

My family as with my Thai family started with very little but with a strong work ethic, smarts, and a warmth that draws good people, they have become successful.

My wife and I have never taken one Baht or Dollar from our respective families other than being provided a sound education.

My Thai family and friends are generous to those in need expecting nothing in return.

They have absolute hearts of gold and I have the greatest respect for them.

I say again, you can't have expectations of people who know no better.

Education and parenting instill sound values. It's just that many Issan residents are "sooner down from the trees" and don't possess the values many on here aspire to or possess themselves.

I'm happy that you are happy, but you post carries the implicit message that rich and educated means better values and manners. That is just bullsh*t.

I agree that good PARENTING instills good values, but money, status, education, nationality, and ethnic background have NOTHING to do with good parenting. Just as being poor and uneducated doesn't mean you can't be a good person with good manners and values.

There are plenty of examples on both sides... There are lots of rich and educated pricks who have an superiority complex and no compassion for other people. There are lots of poor people who are respectful and gracious and kind. And vice versa on both.

Maybe you didn't intend for this to have such a class division sentiment, but that is how it came across to me.

Don't be too upset with blackfox, all his posts on ThaiVisa on whatever subject are about his superiority. How he is a wealhy, handsome, fit man who was able to retire at 45, how he hates fat, balding farangs with bar sluts in tow, blah, blah, blah. Mr superior man,he's been chastised many times for his attitude by members.

Your comments about good manners are spot on.

Have just read the posts Blackfox has sent before and OMB. What a wonderful man he seems to be. Only hope his wife reads all his posts and really finds out the truth.

And why after owning several properties would he need to drive around in the parents car. Surely he must have his own? Never heard so much .... in my life.

[MrBrilliant]

And why after owning several properties would he need to drive around in the parents car. Surely he must have his own? Never heard so much .... in my life.

My thoughts exactly....(see #113)