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Thai Immigration launches 'new' crackdown on visa runners

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This is nonsense. I got my 30-day "exemption" visa extended by 30 days just yesterday. Sorry, TV, but you're not where I look for investigative journalism.

To get an extension of 30-day exemption, that is done in country at immigration. Leaving the country and re-entering using visa exemption is not extending it but using a new one. Also, this has been primarily at Cambodia border land crossings as has been shown in many reports from TV members and immigration statements. AFAIK this is only land border crossings, not air arrivals, at least what reports have indicated.

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According to this publication – who appear to analyse the situation fairly well -

Visa service agents were informed late Monday, September 14, that for the time being Thailand Immigration will not grant 15- and 30-day visa exempt entries through either the Ban Pakard/ Phsa Prum, Ban Laem/ Daun Lem border crossings. Only people with valid visas will be admitted. People with multiple entry visas will be allowed to depart and reenter Thailand to activate the remaining portions of their visas.The current ban on the issue of 15- and 30-day visa exempt entries is not believed to be affecting other border crossing into Laos PDR or Myanmar.

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Hundreds of farangs over 50 who have no intention of ever leaving LOS dont bother with visas at all. If they live in Sa Kaeo ,Buriram or Surin or wherever nobody will bother these guys.

The farangs who get busted are the silly ones who live in 'hostile' places like Pattaya and Phuket. Dozens of plain clothes immigration/police are on the prowl everyday in those places.

Some farangs will be deported others that have money will pay to live another day.

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There are a lot of people in the education sector who do visa runs. Some because they simply are not eligible to work legally and some because of complications and time factors which means they may have to make a visa run before their paperwork is ready for the non-B visa.

For non-native speakers, they have to take a TOEIC test and if it is full they have to wait 1 or 2 weeks. The paperwork has to be submitted to the Thai Teacher's Council and the local MOE (depending on where you are) and a letter is issued by them to the embassy/consulate where you plan to get the non-B. This takes time and any delay means a visa run. For some nationalities, like Filipinos, they only get 15 days.

We recently had a fully qualified teacher (degree in education/experience) who was getting ready to get the non-B visa. He lost his passport and the whole process had to start all over.

Anything dealing with people and the human condition is subject to problems and the need for exceptions.

One missing form or one missing signature or a stamp in the wrong color can delay things.

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This is nonsense. I got my 30-day "exemption" visa extended by 30 days just yesterday. Sorry, TV, but you're not where I look for investigative journalism.

To get an extension of 30-day exemption, that is done in country at immigration. Leaving the country and re-entering using visa exemption is not extending it but using a new one. Also, this has been primarily at Cambodia border land crossings as has been shown in many reports from TV members and immigration statements. AFAIK this is only land border crossings, not air arrivals, at least what reports have indicated.

We're saying the same thing. Extensions are not affected. Not yet... An unnamed immigration officer reporting to Thai Visa is not a good source.

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don't worry...... everything will revert to what is was before (I would guess and say within the next 5 days)....this is Thailand....knee jerk reactions to anything and everything...no thought...no

brains...then suddenly they realise the mess they have made...

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then some Minister or Govt official gets his moment of glory in the media....... retracts the original mouthspout and tells everyone "it was all just a big misunderstanding"

I hope you're right. Most of the reports use phrases like "for the time being" so I would expect things to return to normal in a week or so, just like after the last crackdown.

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Just go and get a tourist visa, it's 1000 for single entry and 2000 for double entry in Laos. I know one who have been living here on TV for 9 years because of not having enough money to get the non-O. He get the double entry visa, do the extensions and by that way get's 6 months of relatively hassle free living.

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I just did a return flight to Singapore and for the first time was asked for my local telephone number at Immigration.. otherwise a no-hassle turn-around.

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This only affects those who go out/in every 15 or 30 days (depending on their nationality).

If you have a valid tourist visa, retirement visa, non-o, non-b etc etc then you are fine.

It's basically Immigration trying to stamp out those who abuse the visa-exempt system.

If you are legit, you have nothing to worry about!

Edit to add - doing out/in border hops on visa exempt every month has always been against the rules. It seems that just now, Immigration are being forced to apply the rules.

Why is it against the rules? So what if yu want to extend your stay. You are in the country spending money. I would ask where is the logic here but.... The LOS is where logic goes to die.

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The only way to end this madness is for immediate reciprocation from western nations to make the sons and daughters of the Thai elite start visa running - with clear doubts over their re-entry being cast. Once these little darlings have been forced to leave their luxury dwellings to flit off to Calais or other migrant infested hellholes with no real idea when or if they will be allowed to return, there will be an awakening.

What? All 311 of them?

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The only way to end this madness is for immediate reciprocation from western nations to make the sons and daughters of the Thai elite start visa running - with clear doubts over their re-entry being cast. Once these little darlings have been forced to leave their luxury dwellings to flit off to Calais or other migrant infested hellholes with no real idea when or if they will be allowed to return, there will be an awakening.

Sorry but what difference would this make?

The govt doesn't care what happens outside of their country regardless if it's their citizens or not. These are the rules here and if you don't like them then you are welcome to choose another place.

I understand why some people are frustrated but rules are rules.

If you don't meet the retirement conditions then come back in a few more years when you are 50 or whatever the age is and have 800K in the bank.

To be honest, aside from retirement, I don't really understand why some expats are even trying to do visa runs here.

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immigration is so corrupted these days it's beyond a joke to honest with everybody .. By the way it seems the PM wants to put armed forces personnel into immigration due to corruption also do people realize just in suvarnabhumi airport each day they are making a few million ฿ just on fast track / queue jumping charging 200/300฿ per person then on top of this other related fraud schemes.. And people wonder how immigration officers can ride around in benzs and bmw's and have all the latest gadgets .. By the way people other Thai news sources have also come out with the new visa ban ..

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What amazes me is that there actually foreigners living in Thailand on visa exempts only.

Who in their right mind could be bothered having to go to a border every 30 days to stamp in and out. That is no life.

Does anyone know anybody who actually does this?

I don't get why anyone would.

A trip to your local immigration office every 90 days VS a visa run every month???

seems like a no brainer to me

Years ago when you could keep doing this forever it was quite common I lived in Chaing mai then and was a day out.

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Typical Thailand!! Crack down on people that are already in the country and doing no harm, ( at least they are complying with the rule of the land that required them to do the visa run in the first place), because some guy bribed his way into the Kingdom to plant a bomb... they should be targeting corrupt officials, .... not people that want to be here. Why not let these people go to an Immigration office and pay for a renewal, ...no, .. silly me, ...that would be logical, .. a win/win situation! The people applying do not ave to waste a whole day going to that border and the Thai government gets new revenue, AND can more effectively track these people!

and, ... by the way, .. a visa run costs about 2,000 baht! 1,300 of that money goes to Cambodia for the visa you need to go in and out ... but it is good for 90 days!!

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What amazes me is that there actually foreigners living in Thailand on visa exempts only.

Who in their right mind could be bothered having to go to a border every 30 days to stamp in and out. That is no life.

Does anyone know anybody who actually does this?

I don't get why anyone would.

A trip to your local immigration office every 90 days VS a visa run every month???

seems like a no brainer to me

Years ago when you could keep doing this forever it was quite common I lived in Chaing mai then and was a day out.

I knew several people in C.M doing border runs every 2 weeks .(before they changed it to 30 days for G7 Countries )

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