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I would suggest trying for the tourist visa in Kuala Lumpur. If refused, you still have the option of trying the visa exempt entry. Although some airports do abrogate tourist visas, they are officially supposed to evaluate whether you qualify for a visa exempt entry. By all means try to enter via Surat Thani airport, but I do think the tourist visa would improve your chances.

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9 hours ago, BritTim said:

By all means try to enter via Surat Thani airport

Does Surat Thani airport rank higher on the list of probable successful entry without a tourist visa than, say, Chiang Mai?

I've already learned the hard way to avoid BKK & DMK airports... I have a similar history to the long story poster, but I do not have that nasty red stamp in my passport. (That was a previous passport 🙂 )

 

... and, what are the latest requirements for entry?

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6 minutes ago, Scott3000 said:

Does Surat Thani airport rank higher on the list of probable successful entry without a tourist visa than, say, Chiang Mai?

I've already learned the hard way to avoid BKK & DMK airports... I have a similar history to the long story poster, but I do not have that nasty red stamp in my passport. (That was a previous passport 🙂 )

 

... and, what are the latest requirements for entry?

I did enter on 30 days visa exempt from CM 2 months ago. I would enter from CM again if it was not a back-to-back.

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1 hour ago, Tomate said:

I did enter on 30 days visa exempt from CM 2 months ago. I would enter from CM again if it was not a back-to-back.

Thanks!

 

Do they ask for onward tickets or bank statements or cash on hand?

 

I've been out of Thailand for 4 months... not sure if that is enough.

 

I will probably leave the region at some point in 2020, perhaps permanently. Perhaps take a longer trip elsewhere, and see how things pan out with immigration, pollution, and deadly transport in Southeast Asia in general. Not sure yet.

 

In the mean time, I left a suitcase in Chiang Mai, and it would be nice to make one or two visits, before traveling far away.

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8 hours ago, Scott3000 said:

Does Surat Thani airport rank higher on the list of probable successful entry without a tourist visa than, say, Chiang Mai?

I've already learned the hard way to avoid BKK & DMK airports... I have a similar history to the long story poster, but I do not have that nasty red stamp in my passport. (That was a previous passport 🙂 )

 

... and, what are the latest requirements for entry?

Known airports that are dodgy for both visa exempt entry and entry with tourist visas are Suvarnabhumi, Don Muang, Phuket and Krabi. While others may on occasion be problematic, with tourist visas, they seem generally OK. Visa exempt entry could be a problem at any airport with extensive prior history.

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On 11/15/2019 at 3:22 PM, acenase said:

 

 

The crackdown at Suvarnabhumi and Don Mueng are more strict than ever. Even myself, I have been denied entry at BKK.  But I still live in Thailand on Tourist visas. Nothing to hide. The border immigration let me in with a smile. No questions asked even though they see my full history on their screens.

 

The way I do it is by knowing all my options.  I take advantage of doing my 2 land border runs per year and extending that. Which gives me 4 months. Plus doing a Tourist Visa run via land border and extendin g that for an additional 3 months. You can go to Yangon. Vientiane. Savannakhet, Kuala Lumpur from Bangkok via bus. I don't ever need to fly out of Thailand anymore until they start changing procedures at land borders and it becomes a problem. 

 

I recently got a "too many visas" warning in my passport but I bought a brand new passport, to do fresh new visa runs at the border consulates again. This is really the only option if you plan to live in Thailand on tourist visas until you decide you are finished with Thailand. Take advantage of the 2 border runs per year, and tourist visa from neighboring country, and buying a new passport after they stamp a remark/warning stamp in it. 

 

Other than that, if you plan on flying out of Thailand. Don't fly back in. Fly to neighboring country and use the bus to come back in, then you can continue on via domestic flight or bus to Bangkok.

Quick question. When u entered thailand through the border did u enter via visa exemptions or tourist visa?

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13 hours ago, BritTim said:

Visa exempt entry could be a problem at any airport with extensive prior history.

Thanks BritTim!

I am in Malaysia & was thinking of flying to Thailand in about 2 weeks.

 

Sounds like it would be much more prudent to wait until the New Year, and do one of two things:

 

1. Enter by land crossing; or

 

2. Take the ferry from Langkawi to Koh Lipe.

 

Do you have any info on entry by water? This option just came to mind. Somebody else on this thread mentioned Langkawi in September. I might go there in early December, instead of going to Thailand so soon. If the boat option is like a land crossing, in terms of immigration, this new alternative could prove to be the most interesting of all!!!

 

What are your thoughts on that ferry idea?

 

Thanks again!

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4 hours ago, Scott3000 said:

Thanks BritTim!

I am in Malaysia & was thinking of flying to Thailand in about 2 weeks.

 

Sounds like it would be much more prudent to wait until the New Year, and do one of two things:

 

1. Enter by land crossing; or

 

2. Take the ferry from Langkawi to Koh Lipe.

 

Do you have any info on entry by water? This option just came to mind. Somebody else on this thread mentioned Langkawi in September. I might go there in early December, instead of going to Thailand so soon. If the boat option is like a land crossing, in terms of immigration, this new alternative could prove to be the most interesting of all!!!

 

What are your thoughts on that ferry idea?

 

Thanks again!

I have no personal experience with entering Thailand at Koh Lipe. I believe it would be treated like a land crossing. I have never heard of anyone having a problem, but no guarantees..

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2 hours ago, BritTim said:

I believe it would be treated like a land crossing. I have never heard of anyone having a problem, but no guarantees..

Thanks. Might be worth a try!

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Guys. Any suggestions for good border crossing point from Cambodia to Thailand?? Starting from either siem reap or phnom penh to BKK as destination. Any idea?? Of course I'm aware poipet is not good. So what would you guya recommend instead??

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I know there is a 2x max border crossing exemptions for some passports. I'm curious, what if I've used 2 exemptions this year via airports. Will the airport exemptions prevent me from border crossing exemption?? 

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2 hours ago, Lisztian420 said:

Guys. Any suggestions for good border crossing point from Cambodia to Thailand??

Two crossing south of Poi Pet that are Ban Laem or Ban Pakad that are in Chantaburi province.

Or the crossing in Hat Lek in Trat province.

Or north from Siem Reap to the Chong Chom crossing to Surin province.

 

35 minutes ago, Lisztian420 said:

Will the airport exemptions prevent me from border crossing exemption?? 

No they do not count.

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6 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

Two crossing south of Poi Pet that are Ban Laem or Ban Pakad that are in Chantaburi province.

Or the crossing in Hat Lek in Trat province.

Or north from Siem Reap to the Chong Chom crossing to Surin province.

 

 

Any buses go their. Anyone had experience can recommend the best route to Bangkok by bus??

I was thinking about koh kong. I wonder if that is a good choice??

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11 hours ago, Lisztian420 said:

I was thinking about koh kong. I wonder if that is a good choice??

That is the crossing at Hat Lek in Trat I mentioned.

You can use local transport from the crossing to Muang Trat to get buses to Bangkok. You can also fly to Bangkok from there.

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11 hours ago, Lisztian420 said:

Any buses go their. Anyone had experience can recommend the best route to Bangkok by bus??

I was thinking about koh kong. I wonder if that is a good choice??

The route via Koh Kong is quite OK, but long.

 

There is a bus from Phnom Penh to Koh Kong. After crossing the border to Hat Lek, you get a reasonably comfortable minibus (about an hour) to Trad. From there, good aircon buses to Ekamai bus station in Bangkok are available (about 5-6 hours). To do this in one day, you must leave Phnom Penh early in the morning.

 

The border crossings to Chanthaburi province are both OK, but the trip is a little complicated. You take the bus from Phnom Penh to Battambang. From there (at least in the past) the best option was a share taxi to the border (cheap, but uncomfortable). In Thailand, if you are lucky, you may find a minibus going to Pattaya, but more likely, you must travel nearly an hour in the wrong direction to Chanthaburi itself before getting a good aircon bus to Bangkok. It is a long time since I did this journey.

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